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  • Oct 18, 2020 2:50am Oct 18, 2020 2:50am
  •  zoraxfx
  • | Joined Mar 2015 | Status: Member | 255 Posts
Thank you grandaevus. It's OK for me but I cannot put D1 and W1 on the same graph.
Any idea ?
 
 
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  • Oct 18, 2020 3:02am Oct 18, 2020 3:02am
  •  Erebus
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Quoting zoraxfx
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Thank you grandaevus. It's OK for me but I cannot put D1 and W1 on the same graph. Any idea ?
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Such a big problem, but you give so few details: here we go...

Are you using a different Indicator Number for each instance?

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  • Oct 18, 2020 3:12am Oct 18, 2020 3:12am
  •  zoraxfx
  • | Joined Mar 2015 | Status: Member | 255 Posts
I'm new on this fabulous thread.
Thank you for your explanation.
It's OK now.
 
 
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  • Oct 18, 2020 3:15am Oct 18, 2020 3:15am
  •  Ilvez
  • Joined May 2020 | Status: Just looking | 500 Posts
Default daily basket runs with 5%SL/2.5%TP ratio. So 2:1 risk:reward and not 1:2 as you were saying.

This means ultimately nothing without win:loss ratio, what we are trying to figure out in long term I guess.

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R:R stand for "Risk Reward" The first number is RISK, the second number is REWARD. Everyone puts 2:1 when they mean 1:2. My own personal pet peeve. Petty, I know...lol.
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  • Oct 18, 2020 3:44am Oct 18, 2020 3:44am
  •  duongvancuon
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I'm new to the forum, at what point do I ask for a basket of the day? Can you give me a sample to install xm7_Ccfp_Wkly_TradeMonitor_v93 (.set). Thank you!
 
 
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  • Oct 18, 2020 4:44am Oct 18, 2020 4:44am
  •  grandaevus
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Hi GrandaEvus, I tried to use the latest release V23.06 and V22.02 BUT neither was working. I assume that I had to place them into the indicators folder and the Experts folder , is that correct?
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CMSM is an indicator. It should be placed into the indicators folder.
 
 
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  • Oct 18, 2020 8:18am Oct 18, 2020 8:18am
  •  bojack34
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Default daily basket runs with 5%SL/2.5%TP ratio. So 2:1 risk:reward and not 1:2 as you were saying. This means ultimately nothing without win:loss ratio, what we are trying to figure out in long term I guess. {quote}
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Of course the time I decide to open my mouth, I'm wrong. Oops. You're correct.
 
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  • Oct 18, 2020 9:43am Oct 18, 2020 9:43am
  •  Ilvez
  • Joined May 2020 | Status: Just looking | 500 Posts
Happens to me all the time

Good luck with upcoming trading week!

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{quote} Of course the time I decide to open my mouth, I'm wrong. Oops. You're correct.
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  • Oct 19, 2020 3:47am Oct 19, 2020 3:47am
  •  mrcubl
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Quoting grandaevus
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CMSM V23.06 for Mt4 & Mt5 Successor of ma based CMSM ver 17.xx. Changelog: Maintenance relaease. {image} {file}{file}
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Thanks grandaevus, I notice now in brackets you report the two strength levels wile the previous version had a unique value.
Is this the only difference?
With the previous version I had an immediate value of the strength of the pair, I personally liked that.
Thank you,
Marco
 
 
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  •  Ilvez
  • Joined May 2020 | Status: Just looking | 500 Posts
Hi,

Sorry, I asked for it.

This is the "old" way of showing it - instead of some black box synthetic index, Grandaevus has reverted back to sorting pairs per strength and in brackets individual strength levels of pairs is shown. This has more information as it shows which currency within the pair is stronger of the bunch and what is the balance between the pairs as well.


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{quote} Thanks grandaevus, I notice now in brackets you report the two strength levels wile the previous version had a unique value. Is this the only difference? With the previous version I had an immediate value of the strength of the pair, I personally liked that. Thank you, Marco
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  •  mrcubl
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Quoting Ilvez
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Hi, Sorry, I asked for it. This is the "old" way of showing it - instead of some black box synthetic index, Grandaevus has reverted back to sorting pairs per strength and in brackets individual strength levels or pairs is shown. This has more information as it shows which currency within the pair is stronger of the bunch and what is the balance between the pairs as well. {quote}
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Thank you Ilvez!
 
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  • Oct 19, 2020 7:41am Oct 19, 2020 7:41am
  •  chandana47
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30pips banked pull out the plug because I'm not sure about the market 93pips negative dd was there It's really risky ! any one got luck??
Swimming with sharks!
 
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  • Oct 19, 2020 7:58am Oct 19, 2020 7:58am
  •  Ilvez
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I think it was prudent choice. Big moves like today on EUR and GBP can kill daily basket with retrace if you step in at wrong time. The pattern is similar what has happened many times in october - RB is opened just after the big moves are done and the basket is at the mercy of retrace.

My daily has been floating between -3.3% and +1% today.

Mrdfx - may I ask why did you chose not to update VB after the RB is opened? So strategy trusts indicator at the time when RB is opened but does not trust it during the RB run...

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30pips banked pull out the plug because I'm not sure about the market 93pips negative dd was there It's really risky ! any one got luck??
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  • Oct 19, 2020 9:57am Oct 19, 2020 9:57am
  •  chandana47
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Quoting Ilvez
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I think it was prudent choice. Big moves like today on EUR and GBP can kill daily basket with retrace if you step in at wrong time. The pattern is similar what has happened many times in october - RB is opened just after the big moves are done and the basket is at the mercy of retrace. My daily has been floating between -3.3% and +1% today. Mrdfx - may I ask why did you chose not to update VB after the RB is opened? So strategy trusts indicator at the time when RB is opened but does not trust it during the RB run... {image} {quote}
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Sorry to interrupt but after triggering the rb there is no need of updating vb. That's my point of view
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  • Oct 19, 2020 10:08am Oct 19, 2020 10:08am
  •  Ilvez
  • Joined May 2020 | Status: Just looking | 500 Posts
OK, so you would not like to take advantage of indicator suggestions for intraday trading which daily basket is meant to do?

Based on 2 months forward testing with my modded demo, allowing EA to add pairs based on indicator suggestions have always been good for the basket results. If the added pairs meet VB criterias. Based on my experience, the bad results have been almost exclusively caused by the pairs which were present when the RB was initially opened. Basically more pairs have brought in better results than increased risk, based on my experience.

Say you start off with weak basket of 2-3 pairs, which go nowhere and market starts to move. Seen that many times how the indicator just lights up. If no additional pairs are added you are stuck whatever you got in RB from the get-go, instead of taking advantage of additional pairs. Yes, every new pair brings in potential risk but intraday I have not really withessed it so far.

Again, this is my experience and only for 2 months, so feel free to ignore

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{quote} Sorry to interrupt but after triggering the rb there is no need of updating vb. That's my point of view
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  • Oct 19, 2020 10:17am Oct 19, 2020 10:17am
  •  chandana47
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Quoting Ilvez
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OK, so you would not like to take advantage of indicator suggestions for intraday trading which daily basket is meant to do? Based on 2 months forward testing with my modded demo, allowing EA to add pairs based on indicator suggestions have always been good for the basket results. If the added pairs meet VB criterias. Based on my experience, the bad results have been almost exclusively caused by the pairs which were present when the RB was initially opened. Basically more pairs have brought in better results than increased risk, based on my experience....
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Your words are very useful Ilvez. Are you sure if vb not refreshed it won't allow to update rb ?
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  • Oct 19, 2020 10:31am Oct 19, 2020 10:31am
  •  Ilvez
  • Joined May 2020 | Status: Just looking | 500 Posts
Yes, RB is not updated what I can see from todays Default Daily. Maybe Jess or Mrdfx can comment on that function behaviour. I recall some discussions from 2018 what I read but cant find it thru search anymore.

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{quote} Your words are very useful Ilvez. Are you sure if vb not refreshed it won't allow to update rb ?
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  • Oct 19, 2020 11:48am Oct 19, 2020 11:48am
  •  blamshakk
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Ilvez

If you set the 'continue updating vBasket after rBasket is opened' to true, does it then add to the real basket if the criteria are met? is this option set to true in the modded demo you referred to, and can you share the results of that demo?

thanks, blam

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Yes, RB is not updated what I can see from todays Default Daily. Maybe Jess or Mrdfx can comment on that function behaviour. I recall some discussions from 2018 what I read but cant find it thru search anymore. {quote}
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  • Oct 19, 2020 12:56pm Oct 19, 2020 12:56pm
  •  Ilvez
  • Joined May 2020 | Status: Just looking | 500 Posts
Hi Blamshakk,

Yes, this setting adds trades to RB if the trades pass VB criteria e.g. only Add Positive Trades or Pip Threshold level etc.

But you need to have this setting turned on as well:

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I started to run live on 1.Sep and had setting turned on immediately. Results are not really representative with default Daily Basket because I sometimes triggered VBs manually, closed VBs and RBs manually and ran different opening times. I ran different indicator settings and quite different basket settings. I eliminated bunch of pairs. I tried not to trade on Fridays.

In short - the live acc. was up by +25% within 2 weeks of September (yay!). Since then I have lost all of the 25% because of my greed, stupidity and excessive manual overrides. Typical stuff when one sees (illusional) money printing setup Keeping decent discipline, I would be sitting at +15% appx as of now. Well, lessons learned.

But also I learned that adding pairs during the basket run did not have any adverse effects. Vice versa, it helped sometimes out baskets starting off only with 3-4 pairs and to finish as a nice 8 deal one. I speak of course based on my 1.5 month run on live and appx 2 month testing on demos since end of August. So it does not carry the "10-month forward testing" approval stamp

So I suggest you give it a go on demo and see how it works out for you.

Cheers,
Ilvez

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Ilvez If you set the 'continue updating vBasket after rBasket is opened' to true, does it then add to the real basket if the criteria are met? is this option set to true in the modded demo you referred to, and can you share the results of that demo? thanks, blam {quote}
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  • Oct 19, 2020 1:09pm Oct 19, 2020 1:09pm
  •  Ilvez
  • Joined May 2020 | Status: Just looking | 500 Posts
Sorry to say, but Default Daily (demo) was closed today by timer at 15:55GMT with the loss of -2.7%. It peaked in the beginning to +1% and then it was red for the rest of the day.

Bringing the running monthly tally in October to -29% for the Default Daily.

Maybe this is just a bad month in general, but I really encourage you to analyse the market conditions and as Jess says "take profit when you see profit". And do not hesitate to analyse what is causing the string of bad patches, and make reasonable adjustments to the EA based on that. Good times don't teach us really anything, so lets be grateful for the bad...

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30pips banked pull out the plug because I'm not sure about the market 93pips negative dd was there It's really risky ! any one got luck??
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