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  • Oct 17, 2020 12:08pm Oct 17, 2020 12:08pm
  •  Tronis
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{quote} the reason they dont look like akims trading is the frustrating part. do you know how many times he took trades at some weird times only to hit stop. some trades he put no stop around news. one time i even asked him if it was him trading the account or did he have someone else doing it. at this point I dont really give a shit anymore. lost too much over the years in forex. as best as i can tell, all those big trades that akim flashes are his mentors. he had one from malaysia i think who taught him to trade. thats the only possible scenario...
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I am sorry you have lost all this money and I really mean this. It is very weird and very hard to believe because I am also testing his system and it looks very promising even in the difficult market as it is now.
 
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  • Oct 17, 2020 12:19pm Oct 17, 2020 12:19pm
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{quote} I am sorry you have lost all this money and I really mean this. It is very weird and very hard to believe because I am also testing his system and it looks very promising even in the difficult market as it is now.
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that is the most frustrating part. i can see that it could possibly work. the issue is the constant stop losses. which are fine if you are trading smaller lots, and then doubling up if it goes lower and catching the move like akim does. but on my account it was just loss after loss. like i said, somedays i really didnt believe it was him trading my account. first off, he was using way too high of leverage on the first trade. 15 lots on a 70k account sometimes. but then it would lose and he would stop. later that day he would post all these trades he did where he made huge. like i said to him many times, would it not be better to just hook me up to your own personal account through a duplicator so i get all the trades. because think about it logically. akim is a counter trend trader. and he takes stops as test trades, and then he goes bigger as it goes lower. but if i never catch those then i will never get ahead. he never would though.
 
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  • Oct 17, 2020 12:29pm Oct 17, 2020 12:29pm
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{quote} No I didn’t remove any these are Akim’s trades. It’s directly from the MT4
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He would make a hell off a signal service then with EA turning those trades opposite... No winning trade, even an accident - that is a talent. Anti-talent.
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  •  Robinhood1
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{quote} As you see many stop losses. Very few wins. He always posted screen shots here of his wins. He never posted screen shots of his losses. So we all didn’t know the size of his losses vs wins. The issue here is there is nothing wrong taking stop loses but your wins must exceed your gains. With Akim his losses exceeded his gains so the account balance was always going backwards. The account is around 70K. The myfxbook screen shot is on this thread showing that.
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That´s why is more honest to display a TE. Its ok to post calls wrong or right. most people do it at FF. But if you post winning charts it should be backed with true evidence. This how i see it.
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  • Oct 17, 2020 12:35pm Oct 17, 2020 12:35pm
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{quote} that is the most frustrating part. i can see that it could possibly work. the issue is the constant stop losses. which are fine if you are trading smaller lots, and then doubling up if it goes lower and catching the move like akim does. but on my account it was just loss after loss. like i said, somedays i really didnt believe it was him trading my account. first off, he was using way too high of leverage on the first trade. 15 lots on a 70k account sometimes. but then it would lose and he would stop. later that day he would post all these...
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I wouldn't agree with doubling up but I agree that 15 lots for 70k account is too high. Anyway, I hope you will make it all back, profitable trading is not easy to achieve, it takes many years to get there and most of the people give up half way but it is possible to make it so don't give up!
 
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  • Oct 17, 2020 12:37pm Oct 17, 2020 12:37pm
  •  Robinhood1
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{quote} I think you more dirty and nasty personality you have Kind of regret last time speak up for you at cable thread. Ego crazy old man, keep want to fight other red tag while most time making wrong call. We even open this thread at early purpose is because pity you, open a thread so you can post your view and discuss while waiting market run. Think back the old time mate, Akim , you , me and colongmerate. we respect you as elder back there but you ? Nvr appreciate and start jealous And have we ever trash...
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Good luck to you too baby
Disconect Algo, otherwise go bust!
 
 
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{quote} I wouldn't agree with doubling up but I agree that 15 lots for 70k account is too high. Anyway, I hope you will make it all back, profitable trading is not easy to achieve, it takes many years to get there and most of the people give up half way but it is possible to make it so don't give up!
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super high. depend on your SL but i think reasonable lot would be max around 2 lot.
yes don't give up on your journey and believe on your process.
 
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  •  jshear
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It's nice to see all the positive posts here about my friend. He is actually a good trader himself but was looking for a good trader to take over his accounts as he's busy with some business projects. The past 2 months when he felt something was wrong with Akim so he traded 2 accounts himself and did quite well.



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  • Oct 17, 2020 1:38pm Oct 17, 2020 1:38pm
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{quote} that is the most frustrating part. i can see that it could possibly work. the issue is the constant stop losses. which are fine if you are trading smaller lots, and then doubling up if it goes lower and catching the move like akim does. but on my account it was just loss after loss. like i said, somedays i really didnt believe it was him trading my account. first off, he was using way too high of leverage on the first trade. 15 lots on a 70k account sometimes. but then it would lose and he would stop. later that day he would post all these...
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When you give your account to someone to manage it should be followed strict rules from both sides. Account holder shouldn't be allowed to interrupt trades or make trades by himself and a trader who is managing the account shouldn't go into more then let's say 10-20% drawdown so you know what could be the max possible loses and trader also knows that nobody will interrupt his/her trading because you can't even imagine what damage can be done also by the account holder. I could be wrong but this is just my opinion what has happened to your account.

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{quote} When you give your account to someone to manage it should be followed strict rules from both sides. Account holder shouldn't be allowed to interrupt trades or make trades by himself and a trader who is managing the account shouldn't go into more then let's say 10-20% drawdown so you know what could be the max possible loses and trader also knows that nobody will interrupt his/her trading because you can't even imagine what damage can be done also by the account holder. I could be wrong but this is just my opinion what has happened to your...
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It would be nice to hear Akim's side of this case. Where are you Akim, make a comment please.
 
 
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  • Oct 17, 2020 1:49pm Oct 17, 2020 1:49pm
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{quote} LOL What is Akim going to say. He's a lousy trader and lost money for my friend. The proof is in the pudding. That says it all!!!
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Your friend had the access to his account all the time that's why we will never know how many times he closed out Akim's trades and how many trades he made by himself. That's the problem here, we will never know the truth. I am just judging by the account's history.
 
 
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  • Oct 17, 2020 1:51pm Oct 17, 2020 1:51pm
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{quote} When you give your account to someone to manage it should be followed strict rules from both sides. Account holder shouldn't be allowed to interrupt trades or make trades by himself and a trader who is managing the account shouldn't go into more then let's say 10-20% drawdown so you know what could be the max possible loses and trader also knows that nobody will interrupt his/her trading because you can't even imagine what damage can be done also by the account holder. I could be wrong but this is just my opinion what has happened to your...
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yeah, and after losing close to 30 million in forex, try telling that to traders. they all have egos, and say they dont like to be told how to trade. yes i took some trades early on, but have not done so in 4 months. every trader says let me trade the way i want. and even if you do have parameters, they all break them. so only thing you can do is do a hard equity stop at broker, but then the trader cries foul that i am messing up there trades. no real simple solution. I have heard it all. like i said before, akim did inherit a mess from other traders, and i am thankful that he got me to close those old trades. but i can tell you after four months of watching him supposedly do so well, why wasnt he able to do so on my account. there was no interference or trading on my part. in fact, i asked him to hook me up many times to his own personal account so i get same trades. then he went off forex factory so i couldn't see his other trades he would post. And two months ago, when i started to see the writing on the wall with akim, i started trading my own accounts that are outside of the one akim was trading.

anyways, it is what it is. this all started when i started to see robinhoods posts about akim being a scammer.
 
 
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  • Oct 17, 2020 2:32pm Oct 17, 2020 2:32pm
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{quote} yeah, and after losing close to 30 million in forex, try telling that to traders. they all have egos, and say they dont like to be told how to trade. yes i took some trades early on, but have not done so in 4 months. every trader says let me trade the way i want. and even if you do have parameters, they all break them. so only thing you can do is do a hard equity stop at broker, but then the trader cries foul that i am messing up there trades. no real simple solution. I have heard it all. like i said before, akim did inherit a mess from...
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Yeah, 30 mil is a bit of money to lose in Forex, you've been unlucky but if trader can't commit to your agreed drawdown than that's not a real profitable trader and don't believe to every scammer. I can't say anything bad about Akim because I've never seen his account stats but I saw many profitable trades taken by him and shared here that's why I have started trading his system with my analysis and touch and it looks very promising but I was already a profitable trader before that's why for me this system is a bit easier to master. I am testing his system for almost 2 weeks now and even after this week's trading I am in overall profit, let's see how it will work out in a long run but if the system survived this week with just 37 pips loss than I am very happy and it looks very promising. That is the reason why for me is very hard to believe that he is some kind of scammer.
 
 
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  • Oct 17, 2020 2:42pm Oct 17, 2020 2:42pm
  •  LeongPuiy
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{quote} When you give your account to someone to manage it should be followed strict rules from both sides. Account holder shouldn't be allowed to interrupt trades or make trades by himself and a trader who is managing the account shouldn't go into more then let's say 10-20% drawdown so you know what could be the max possible loses and trader also knows that nobody will interrupt his/her trading because you can't even imagine what damage can be done also by the account holder. I could be wrong but this is just my opinion what has happened to your...
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If Akim is a fraud, he really patience to scam 15k this case is between them both.
Akim already leave FF, the other side story we nvr know. Choose what you believe , and if you follow Akim enough long time, u will knw he probably not reply any attack comment, since last year already a lot of red tag calling him liar, but he nvr def himself , and he still active from that time until last mth, continue teaching other newbie and sharing his strategy, he even give live call, also admit he get stop out.
and hv u ever see any one say Akim lose their money or scam their money in this 1-2 year? Answer is no, only now , and only one T.
Haha, will you posted your win trade everyday and patience to reply a lot of question, and free teach your strategy about 1-2 year to scam 15k at the end?
i only can say he not 100% to let Akim trade his account, when it lose n not recover back , but see Akim post his win, he question Akim again, day by day, same thing happen then giving more stress to those who hlp him trade, so is this really Akim problem only?But The investor has no problem or responsible for it?
If only one side keep talking , we never know the real fact behind.
Conversation can be delete and show what they want to show you, if only one side post the whole conversation.And we never knw is he really no interrupt during this 4 mth, he can just be mad akim didnt hlp he reload after stop out, then make up the story , make him a innocent guy and make akim a fraud image.
i am done comment, enough with this case
i better focus my own trading.
this is my last comment about this.
If want to spread more and say akim is a fraud , better open a new thread, i hope this weekend post dont affect Comar them, this thread now is belong to Comar for sharing his knowledge n strategy.
peace
 
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  • Oct 17, 2020 2:50pm Oct 17, 2020 2:50pm
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{quote} If Akim is a fraud, he really patience to scam 15k this case is between them both. Akim already leave FF, the other side story we nvr know. Choose what you believe , and if you follow Akim enough long time, u will knw he probably not reply any attack comment, since last year already a lot of red tag calling him liar, but he nvr def himself , and he still active from that time until last mth, continue teaching other newbie and sharing his strategy, he even give live call, also admit he get stop out. and hv u ever see any one say Akim...
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hey leongpuiy, why haven't you made money in two years. as well, considering many of you only trade 100 dollar accounts, why did akim ask you guys for 100 dollars to join his new thread. doesn't make sense.

also, if me asking akim why am i not getting same trades as him is putting too much pressure on the guy, then i guess i am at fault. i would comment about once every two weeks. wow. here is a guy that supposedly goes into crazy moves and takes the counter trade, yet cant answer a question about trades as it puts too much pressure on him. thats honestly the funniest thing i have ever heard.
 
 
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  • Oct 17, 2020 2:53pm Oct 17, 2020 2:53pm
  •  Tronis
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{quote} If Akim is a fraud, he really patience to scam 15k this case is between them both. Akim already leave FF, the other side story we nvr know. Choose what you believe , and if you follow Akim enough long time, u will knw he probably not reply any attack comment, since last year already a lot of red tag calling him liar, but he nvr def himself , and he still active from that time until last mth, continue teaching other newbie and sharing his strategy, he even give live call, also admit he get stop out. and hv u ever see any one say Akim...
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Don't get me wrong, that's why I said that I don't believe that Akim is a scammer. I would not trade his system if I would think he is a scammer and that's why I am questioning if Taint's trading history is true Akim's trading or with Taint's interruptions.
 
 
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  • Oct 17, 2020 2:56pm Oct 17, 2020 2:56pm
  •  LeongPuiy
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{quote} Don't get me wrong, that's why I said that I don't believe that Akim is a scammer. I would not trade his system if I would think he is a scammer and that's why I am questioning if Taint's trading history is true Akim's trading or with Taint's interruptions.
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Dont get my post wrong too, it not for you.
i enough say here.
let them continue to say their story.
Akim scam $18 k for 2 year teaching free
 
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  • Oct 17, 2020 3:04pm Oct 17, 2020 3:04pm
  •  jshear
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You guys are delusional. My friend has nothing to gain by telling his experience with Akim. He did it to speak the truth about it so others can avoid doing the same. If you want to keep drinking the coolaid then fine. Let’s see a year from now if his warning was right. I am done posting here about this. Have a nice weekend.
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{quote} Dont get my post wrong too, it not for you. i enough say here. let them continue to say their story. Akim scam $18 k for 2 year teaching free
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i posted my account. with all my trades done by akim. now all the minions come out to defend him, yet none of you make any money. trones you just said based on akims system you lost 37 pips this week. doesn't seem like a great system. as well, leongpuiy has been attached at akims hip for two years, and yet makes no money. how is that even possible.

math doesn't lie. its the only true equalizer. so if akims system is so good, and he has fallen on the sword for all of you, then why is nobody making money on your thread. If leongpuiy can post a trade explorer showing his gains that he has earned from his mentors teachings, then i will shut up and apologize.

i do remember leongpuiy having up a trade explorer. a few times actually. he would build it up, then blow and take it down. so why cant you just leave it up for all to see all the amazing money you are making from your mentors teachings. its pretty simple.
 
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  • Oct 17, 2020 3:23pm Oct 17, 2020 3:23pm
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{quote} i posted my account. with all my trades done by akim. now all the minions come out to defend him, yet none of you make any money. trones you just said based on akims system you lost 37 pips this week. doesn't seem like a great system. as well, leongpuiy has been attached at akims hip for two years, and yet makes no money. how is that even possible. math doesn't lie. its the only true equalizer. so if akims system is so good, and he has fallen on the sword for all of you, then why is nobody making money on your thread. If leongpuiy can post...
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Ha ha for me long term results is important. One week's results is nothing and overall is still positive, that's what matters and to achieve positive overall results you have to accept losers.
 
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  • Oct 17, 2020 3:23pm Oct 17, 2020 3:23pm
  •  Robinhood1
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{quote} i posted my account. with all my trades done by akim. now all the minions come out to defend him, yet none of you make any money. trones you just said based on akims system you lost 37 pips this week. doesn't seem like a great system. as well, leongpuiy has been attached at akims hip for two years, and yet makes no money. how is that even possible. math doesn't lie. its the only true equalizer. so if akims system is so good, and he has fallen on the sword for all of you, then why is nobody making money on your thread. If leongpuiy can post...
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Very true. Real evidence please, otherwise we are waisting too much energy. Is there another trader besides Akim doing 500 pips profit and then going for a coffee? He displayed his system at one time but no one else seems to be going for a coffe after 500 pips. making 500 pips most days puts you right on Forbes list.
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