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  • #108,801
  • Sep 19, 2020 3:16pm Sep 19, 2020 3:16pm
Quoting robots4me
{quote} @Tekkies -- for the record... There is a difference between repainting and recalulating. Recalculating occurs at Bar[0]. Bar[0] is the current bar. A bar is represented by 4 values -- OHLC. Open / High / Low / Close. An Open price is carved in stone -- it never changes, even for Bar[0]. Bar[0]'s Close price changes with each tick. Bar[0]'s High and Low may or may not change with an incoming tick. So, during Bar[0]'s lifetime the HLC are subject to change -- and this is all fine. This occurs with *EVERY* indicator. When the current time frame...
Dear Robot,

We aren't interested in Robots in this Thread. Big E didn't want any EA to be created for this strategy

Secondly, we were just misunderstanding each other. I didn't mean for Candle (0). I meant for previous cross overs. TDI repaints those "sometimes" .proof is above. Ive also witnessed it. But . I don't see it as something that affects realtime trading. It only affects backtests
  • #108,802
  • Sep 19, 2020 3:18pm Sep 19, 2020 3:18pm
Quoting DrDave
{quote} Great! If that works for you. However, as BigE stated clearly THIS thread is about the 5-method with the TDI the HEART, whereas the earlier 5-method where he used the HA bar closing across the ema5 is too conservative for him and NOT discussed in the method in THIS thread.
I try my best to not discuss it. But you guys keep calling it out .
  • #108,803
  • Sep 19, 2020 3:20pm Sep 19, 2020 3:20pm
When will I be allowed to open my own thread and delete every little useless fighting and all that is not relevant !!!!!! eating too many tacos
If I don't mention SL and/or TP = longer-term setup possibly in the works!
  • #108,804
  • Sep 19, 2020 3:20pm Sep 19, 2020 3:20pm
Quoting Nat.Fx
{quote} This 5ema is shifted by a mile Also observe the false signals the TDI was giving. So many pips given to the market With Simplicity comes a sacrifice Example: Open book tests are harder than regular tests
TDI does not give false signals. It merely gives SIGNALS.

And what is the signal signaling? It is signaling to NOW review your list of ENTRY CRITERIA and then make an entry decision.

Only in HINDSIGHT can you make a determination of whether of not the SIGNAL enabled you to enter early, on time, or late in regards to the start of a swing.
To free Gazans of Hamas, use whatever it takes.
  • #108,805
  • Sep 19, 2020 3:23pm Sep 19, 2020 3:23pm
Boys and girls, from now on, Im selling when tdi crosses above and viceversa!!!!!!!!!! as long as rsi is below 10 hihihi
If I don't mention SL and/or TP = longer-term setup possibly in the works!
  • #108,806
  • Sep 19, 2020 3:30pm Sep 19, 2020 3:30pm
Quoting mtako
Boys and girls, from now on, Im selling when tdi crosses above and viceversa!!!!!!!!!! as long as rsi is below 10 hihihi
Margin Call awaits ye
  • #108,807
  • Sep 19, 2020 3:31pm Sep 19, 2020 3:31pm
Quoting mtako
When will I be allowed to open my own thread and delete every little useless fighting and all that is not relevant !!!!!! eating too many tacos
You can go to forums and click "Start Thread"
  • #108,808
  • Sep 19, 2020 3:31pm Sep 19, 2020 3:31pm
I cant... too young a member : (
If I don't mention SL and/or TP = longer-term setup possibly in the works!
  • #108,809
  • Sep 19, 2020 3:35pm Sep 19, 2020 3:35pm
Quoting Nat.Fx
{quote} If you want proof that 5 ema is prolly shifted by 3 or 5 Look at GBPUSD daily chart and observe the late signals TDI gives (that resulted in losses). Now look at how 5ema shifted +2 gives signals earlier Maybe the TDI repainted its crosses in either of them who knows . MA doesn't repaint. It just lags. TDI isn't a leading indi either. Only ultimate leading indicators is candle sticks or bars (line chart SUCKS) So why don't we just use which ever works for us?
There is no such thing as a leading indicator. Popular misusage of the term has propagated to the masses.

A leading indicator would have to ALWAYS lead some event, such as price moving in a specific direction, making it a predictor of the future. If it cannot lead the event in every instance, then it is no possible to be a leading indicator.

If you want to qualify it by saying it OFTEN leads the event, then why classify it as a leading indicator when SOMETIMES it is a CONTRARIAN indicator? So, we call it a CONTRARIAN indicator that often LEADS the event. SO it is nothing more than just another indicator that sometimes has a correlation with a future event and sometimes as an anticorrelation with a future event.

Why don't we then say that the CLOSING PRICE is a LEADING indicator for the OPENING price of the next bar? After all, as soon as the closing price registers, it nearly instantaneously LEADS us to "predicting" the open of the subsequent bar. Oh, maybe we don't call it a leading indicator because SOMETIMES it gives a "false signal" and the subsequent opening price is something UNEXPECTED?
To free Gazans of Hamas, use whatever it takes.
  • #108,810
  • Sep 19, 2020 3:36pm Sep 19, 2020 3:36pm
Quoting mtako
{quote} Is that a response to my post ? If so, you missed what I was saying. And Im an indicator junkie actually ! Boy I hope you werent responding to my post because if so, there are A LOT of presumptions here, and for what ? I didnt say anything of the above. Just expressing ones opinion here is an act of war ? Sorry, goodbye.
'Bye-'bye!

Better get some body armor to protect your thin skin.
To free Gazans of Hamas, use whatever it takes.
  • #108,811
  • Sep 19, 2020 3:38pm Sep 19, 2020 3:38pm
Quoting Nat.Fx
{quote} ...We aren't interested in Robots in this Thread...
@Nat.Fx -- I wasn't talking to you...

@Tekkies made a statement about the use of TDI in backtesting and EAs. I merely offered a correction.

As for whether or not you wish to use an EA -- I really couldn't care less. The purpose of my post wasn't to convince you to use EAs. Rather, the purpose of the post was to encourage someone -- anyone -- to make a minimal effort to understand the difference (and consequences) of repainting versus recalculation. If for no other reason than you guys keep bringing it up and using it as a reason / justification to do something or not to do something.

@Nat.Fx -- as an aside -- I understand you will never make an effort to understand the difference between repainting and recalculation. And I also realize you are not alone. But from a psychological standpoint this still floors me. Here we have so many FF members who claim they really want to succeed at trading, and they know that repainting and recalculating are important behaviors of indicators, yet they are disinclined to take a few moments to get clear what they really mean. This psychological aspect isn't your problem -- it's mine. I will never understand people who insist on keeping their heads stuck in the sand...
  • #108,812
  • Sep 19, 2020 3:42pm Sep 19, 2020 3:42pm
Quoting mtako
this thread should be called SEMANTICS FOR DUMMIES
@mtako -- terminology is very important. Attention to detail is very important. If you can't appreciate that precision in language and forex is important, then your trading journey will be unnecessarily painful...
  • #108,813
  • Sep 19, 2020 3:44pm Sep 19, 2020 3:44pm
Quoting DrDave
{quote} 'Bye-'bye! Better get some body armor to protect your thin skin.
funny... I was joking about the goodbye... I cant get offended by a clear misunderstanding. And in this case, I just reminded him/her of someone else that has clearly traumatized more than one here, including you. Boy ! This is contagious. Good bye
If I don't mention SL and/or TP = longer-term setup possibly in the works!
  • #108,814
  • Sep 19, 2020 3:44pm Sep 19, 2020 3:44pm
Quoting robots4me
{quote} @Nat.Fx -- I wasn't talking to you... @Tekkies made a statement about the use of TDI in backtesting and EAs. I merely offered a correction. As for whether or not you wish to use an EA -- I really couldn't care less. The purpose of my post wasn't to convince you to use EAs. Rather, the purpose of the post was to encourage someone -- anyone -- to make a minimal effort to understand the difference (and consequences) of repainting versus recalculation. If for no other reason than you guys keep bringing it up and using it as a reason / justification...

We got more bitter toxics in here. Dave we need more Hazmat suits.

Why are people bitter. Is trading Fx that depressing

Laugh and enjoy life while you have it. Have a good night Robot. It was just a little misunderstanding. Don't know why you still keeping it in your chest. Just chill man. TDI repaints past crossovers. Recalculating present candle is normal for most indicators

Just chill man. If you weren't talking to me. You could private message him. As long as it in this thread it concerns everyone

WE DON'T WANT YOUR ROBOT FRIENDS

  • #108,815
  • Sep 19, 2020 3:46pm Sep 19, 2020 3:46pm
Quoting mtako
{quote} funny... I was joking about the goodbye... I cant get offended by a clear misunderstanding. And in this case, I just reminded him/her of someone else that has clearly traumatized more than one here, including you. Boy ! This is contagious. Good bye
Dude chill. He hasn't read recent posts. You can see he is still replying our past posts. Once he sees were we cleared the misunderstandings he will understand

Dave isn't like Robots. Robots is just bitter about something lol
  • #108,816
  • Sep 19, 2020 3:48pm Sep 19, 2020 3:48pm
Quoting DrDave
{quote} TDI does not give false signals. It merely gives SIGNALS. And what is the signal signaling? It is signaling to NOW review your list of ENTRY CRITERIA and then make an entry decision. Only in HINDSIGHT can you make a determination of whether of not the SIGNAL enabled you to enter early, on time, or late in regards to the start of a swing.
@DrDave -- amazing -- we agree...
  • #108,817
  • Sep 19, 2020 3:49pm Sep 19, 2020 3:49pm
Don't let the Toxicity get to you.

Just chill, breathe and enter when the TDI crosses
  • #108,818
  • Sep 19, 2020 3:49pm Sep 19, 2020 3:49pm
Quoting robots4me
{quote} @mtako -- terminology is very important. Attention to detail is very important. If you can't appreciate that precision in language and forex is important, then your trading journey will be unnecessarily painful...
When did I say it was not important? You misunderstood my joke. So many baseless assumptions... Semantic police is here !! beware especially all of you that don't know perfect English, your trading profits are in peril !!!!!!
If I don't mention SL and/or TP = longer-term setup possibly in the works!
  • #108,819
  • Sep 19, 2020 3:51pm Sep 19, 2020 3:51pm
Quoting Nat.Fx
{quote} Dude chill. He hasn't read recent posts. You can see he is still replying our past posts. Once he sees were we cleared the misunderstandings he will understand Dave isn't like Robots. Robots is just bitter about something lol
Dont worry Nat, Im always joking around when I talk like that, or else I wouldnt be talking.. Im not a bitter guy...
If I don't mention SL and/or TP = longer-term setup possibly in the works!
  • #108,820
  • Sep 19, 2020 3:53pm Sep 19, 2020 3:53pm
Quoting mtako
{quote} When did I say it was not important? You misunderstood my joke. So many baseless assumptions... Semantic police is here !! beware especially all of you that don't know perfect English, your trading profits are in peril !!!!!!
I don't let misunderstandings get to me. But it seems not everyone has the same mentality.

They rather jump to conclusions

Y'all should just chill.
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