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  • #4,061
  • Aug 26, 2020 2:44am Aug 26, 2020 2:44am
Quoting parisboy
GBPUSD 60 mn Tillman Forks and Focal Points follow up {image}
Hello,

I dont use Tillman but fibonacci channel.

Any recommendation? comments?

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  • #4,062
  • Edited 3:36am Aug 26, 2020 3:01am | Edited 3:36am
Quoting limprobable
{quote} Hello, I dont use Tillman but fibonacci channel. Any recommendation? comments? {image}
Well your question implicitly demonstrates that you focus on details and secondary problematics.

The Core of Tillman Demonstration is to show that this way (within the Tillman "Fork" - my labeling not his) - Price Action Sinewave fluctuates within the boundaries of the Fork

Tillman did not use the division by 8 of the Amplitude of the Fork - I do - you use Fibonacci - why not.

Moreover I have developed and formalized the concept of linking Focal Points of the same nature, degree, order : linking Focal points showing the Crossing of the SAME Centered Moving Averages

Do your homework : READ, STUDY & PRACTICE TILLMAN
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  • #4,063
  • Edited 3:35am Aug 26, 2020 3:14am | Edited 3:35am
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  • #4,064
  • Aug 26, 2020 4:01am Aug 26, 2020 4:01am
Quoting parisboy
{quote} Well your question implicitly demonstrates that you focus on details and secondary problematics.

Well, I didn't expect that for an answer.

My question was only whether you had developed or formalized a brillant similar concept with Fibonnacci channel?

Thats all. I suppose that the answer is no.

Good afternoon.
Bottomless wonders spring from simple rules, which are repeated without end
  • #4,065
  • Aug 26, 2020 8:53am Aug 26, 2020 8:53am
Quoting vendemilo
{quote} this is the image that I was talking about om pm earlier on . {file} {file} {image}
Sorry but I don't do ea's, someone else may though.

KISS&V :Keep it simple safe & visual
  • #4,066
  • Aug 26, 2020 12:38pm Aug 26, 2020 12:38pm
Quoting limprobable
{quote} Well, I didn't expect that for an answer. My question was only whether you had developed or formalized a brillant similar concept with Fibonnacci channel? Thats all. I suppose that the answer is no. Good afternoon.
about Fibonacci

otherwise I use the Gann Octave not the Fibonacci numbers

the real interest of the Fibonacci serie is the various relationships which are universal whatever the numbers you use for applying the "Fibonacci" serie
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  • #4,067
  • Aug 26, 2020 12:47pm Aug 26, 2020 12:47pm
Quoting limprobable
{quote} Well, I didn't expect that for an answer. My question was only whether you had developed or formalized a brillant similar concept with Fibonnacci channel? Thats all. I suppose that the answer is no. Good afternoon.
Say again : before asking a question, do your homework , search the Thread or search Parisboy messages

if you search the thread for "Fibonacci Channel " you have 3 answers for "Fibonacci Channels" - zero answer

if you search parisboy's messages with "Fibonacci" you get 3 pages
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  • #4,068
  • Edited 3:51pm Aug 26, 2020 1:00pm | Edited 3:51pm
Quoting parisboy
{quote} Price Action tends always to Return to its mean - then to its Trend - here the Centered Moving Averages 256 and 128 Time Units which are parallel and trending Up with a 15° Angle {image}
Soon or later... thats the million dollars question.

Fill the gap then up as i said. More than 250 points now. SL on 200 points. Waiting for reverse. Soon or later...


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  • #4,069
  • Edited 1:51pm Aug 26, 2020 1:08pm | Edited 1:51pm
Quoting parisboy
{quote} Say again : before asking a question, do your homework , search the Thread or search Parisboy messages if you search the thread for "Fibonacci Channel " you have 3 answers for "Fibonacci Channels" - zero answer if you search parisboy's messages with "Fibonacci" you get 3 pages {image}
Ok thanks for your answer. I have done a lot of homework since 15 years of trading.

No more question. I stop playing the candid to kindly and apparently awkwardly feed your thread.

Good luck and "bon vent".
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  • #4,070
  • Aug 27, 2020 4:26am Aug 27, 2020 4:26am
hi new to envelopes here, I'm struggling to create an envelope on tradingview, How do I form an envelope like this can you please help?
  • #4,071
  • Aug 27, 2020 5:09am Aug 27, 2020 5:09am
Quoting parisboy
This thread is opened to discuss the pro's and con's of the Envelopes Methodology based on the work of Jim Hurst and Brian Millard Hurst and Millard used Envelopes based on Centered Moving Averages and fixed width parameters Gann will help us to determine the right parameters (Law of Vibration) Comments and questions are welcome Others related subjects of interest as: - Forks (Andrews, Tillman) - Volume (Levine MIDAS Theory) - Congestion Areas (Wyckoff) - Envelopes - Moving Averages - Speed and Acceleration (Gann Angles) will be adressed Good readings...
hello!
I'm struggling to create an envelope on tradingview, is there any indicators or source code for this?
  • #4,072
  • Aug 28, 2020 3:34am Aug 28, 2020 3:34am
Quoting parisboy
Observe the parabolic behaviour of DIGNITY {image}
Alain
Reference this chart
Would the 0 - 2500 grid still be applicable or would you reduce back down to say 0 - 1250
I have dug my old excel grid calculator out which I made a very long time ago
High 2500.0
Low 0.0
Diff / 8 312.5
+2/8 3125.0
+1/8 2812.5
8/8 2500.0
7/8 2187.5
6/8 1875.0
5/8 1562.5
4/8 1250.0
3/8 937.5
2/8 625.0
1/8 312.5
0/8 0.000

High 1250.0
Low 0
1562.5
1406.25
1250.0
1093.75
937.50
781.25
625.0
468.75
312.50
156.25
0.0
  • #4,073
  • Edited 4:24am Aug 28, 2020 4:11am | Edited 4:24am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Alain Reference this chart Would the 0 - 2500 grid still be applicable or would you reduce back down to say 0 - 1250 I have dug my old excel grid calculator out which I made a very long time ago High 2500.0 Low 0.0 Diff / 8 312.5 +2/8 3125.0 +1/8 2812.5 8/8 2500.0 7/8 2187.5 6/8 1875.0 5/8 1562.5 4/8 1250.0 3/8 937.5 2/8 625.0 1/8 312.5 0/8 0.000 High 1250.0 Low 0 1562.5 1406.25 1250.0 1093.75 937.50 781.25 625.0 468.75 312.50 156.25 0.0
Dave,

Chart pattern explained by Cycles.

Most Cycles operative within Price Action are bearish at the same time (Waterfall Event) creating a Nest of Lows AND an "Eartquake" Pattern
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  • #4,074
  • Aug 28, 2020 4:23am Aug 28, 2020 4:23am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Alain Reference this chart Would the 0 - 2500 grid still be applicable or would you reduce back down to say 0 - 1250 I have dug my old excel grid calculator out which I made a very long time ago High 2500.0 Low 0.0 Diff / 8 312.5 +2/8 3125.0 +1/8 2812.5 8/8 2500.0 7/8 2187.5 6/8 1875.0 5/8 1562.5 4/8 1250.0 3/8 937.5 2/8 625.0 1/8 312.5 0/8 0.000 High 1250.0 Low 0 1562.5 1406.25 1250.0 1093.75 937.50 781.25 625.0 468.75 312.50 156.25 0.0
Dave,

Timeframe = 4 H

Screen Top = 660
Screen Low = 200

Price Range = 660 - 200 = 460 = 57,5

you can round the result at 60 or the "standard" 62.5
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  • #4,075
  • Aug 28, 2020 4:31am Aug 28, 2020 4:31am
Quoting 1deaman
{quote} hello! I'm struggling to create an envelope on tradingview, is there any indicators or source code for this?
1deaman

thank you for your interest.

But same answer as for "limprobable" or any other poster or reader

Do your homework first ! Search the Thread before asking a question . In 99 % of the case answer is there.

When you search the thread using TradingView as keyword you get 4 pages of results. Answer should be there in these results
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  • #4,076
  • Edited 5:42am Aug 28, 2020 4:55am | Edited 5:42am
Quoting parisboy
{quote} Dave, Timeframe = 4 H Screen Top = 660 Screen Low = 200 Price Range = 660 - 200 = 460 = 57,5 you can round the result at 60 or the "standard" 62.5 {image}
Thanks
My interest as moved away from FX to actual Shares so my current platform and broker will not suffice anymore, Been doing a little research, who and what platform and what data is supplied without paying a fortune, other than Tradeview and judging by the repeated How to set the Envelopes up questions, of which you have answered many times they do not seem any others available
My though pattern being is that actual price and charts are freely available and an amazing amount of detailed share data, but our custom indicators cannot be added so all I need to speed my search up is to look for Highs and Lows and transfer them into my Grid calculator to see if they have any interest in me fine tuning an entry
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  • #4,077
  • Edited 7:22am Aug 28, 2020 6:19am | Edited 7:22am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Thanks My interest as moved away from FX to actual Shares so my current platform and broker will not suffice anymore, Been doing a little research, who and what platform and what data is supplied without paying a fortune, other than Tradeview and judging by the repeated How to set the Envelopes up questions, of which you have answered many times they do not seem any others available My though pattern being is that actual price and charts are freely available and an amazing amount of detailed share data, but our custom indicators cannot be...
Dave Let me generalize and pontify a little !

the "doit yourself method" is IMHO the best methodology to LEARN and UNDERSTAND the tools, here the Envelopes Triad Method.

By doing it yourself (building the Envelopes and calculating the Amplitudes (octaves) you assimilate a good grasp of the methodology, its pros and its limits.

I knew first WHY I wanted to apply this methodology. Then I found TradingView I do not remember how. I kept TradingView because I could build the Envelopes without investing too much time and effort.

I do not remember how exactly I have done it. And I do not pretend it was and it is the best way to do it within TradingView . Hence I discovered other useful tools - for example the trend Angle

Similarly I do not pretend TradingView is the best solution. I was just too stupid to be able to use other solutions which do not signify it is not possible to use them to build Envelopes etc
  • #4,078
  • Aug 28, 2020 1:01pm Aug 28, 2020 1:01pm
Just searching ? 1st Grids then add other things ?
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  • #4,079
  • Edited 1:44pm Aug 28, 2020 1:29pm | Edited 1:44pm
Quoting OAPDave
Just searching ? 1st Grids then add other things ? {image} {image}
GMR 1 YEAR

With the Fibonacci serie up to 25 for those of you who love Fibonacci

Grid 0-25

0ctave = 25 / 8 = 3.125
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  • #4,080
  • Aug 28, 2020 1:44pm Aug 28, 2020 1:44pm
Quoting parisboy
{quote} GMR 1 YEAR With the Fibonacci serie up to 25 for those of you who love Fibonacci Grid 0-25 0ctave = 25 / 8 = 3.125 {image} {image}
If only I could get you interested in the New Plan ? hahaha
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