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  • #301
  • May 8, 2020 8:09pm May 8, 2020 8:09pm
Quoting moodybot
{quote} Which current strategy strategy?
Hi moody, whichever strategy that you are using in and out of the market, if you guys still having loss in your trades. Thanks!
  • #302
  • May 9, 2020 6:37am May 9, 2020 6:37am
Can someone explain how to recognize what you guys are calling liquidity gaps?

It seems like this happens with wrbs(that's what I think people are pointing out on the charts), but I'm not sure?

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EXAMPLE image from a different thread that I'm sure many are already familiar with.
  • #303
  • May 9, 2020 7:10am May 9, 2020 7:10am
Quoting forrestang
Can someone explain how to recognize what you guys are calling liquidity gaps? It seems like this happens with wrbs(that's what I think people are pointing out on the charts), but I'm not sure? --EDIT-- EXAMPLE image from a different thread that I'm sure many are already familiar with.
What you are looking for is within that topic.
Start by reading the first post, then the second etc.
  • #304
  • May 9, 2020 12:49pm May 9, 2020 12:49pm
Quoting forrestang
Can someone explain how to recognize what you guys are calling liquidity gaps? It seems like this happens with wrbs(that's what I think people are pointing out on the charts), but I'm not sure? --EDIT-- EXAMPLE image from a different thread that I'm sure many are already familiar with.
Isn't that the same thing that happened this Friday at GJ? From this post # 117, George touches on the Conflict of the Momentum topic for the first time, so you need to read further, not earlier) if you are in the TOPIC!
''momentum to me is knowing when the market is moving in the wrong direction and the move should not be extended ,,
  • #305
  • May 9, 2020 1:54pm May 9, 2020 1:54pm
SPEED
MOMENTUM
TIME
FRACTAL
CONFLICT OF MOMENTUM
PRICE STRUCTURE
LIQUIDITY GAPS
MARKET PSYCHOLOGY

REAL OR ALGO????


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Master your Mind,,,Master the Market
  • #306
  • May 9, 2020 1:59pm May 9, 2020 1:59pm
Quoting bluesteele
SPEED MOMENTUM TIME FRACTAL CONFLICT OF MOMENTUM PRICE STRUCTURE LIQUIDITY GAPS MARKET PSYCHOLOGY REAL OR ALGO???? {image}{image}

Mate, I've never figured out how to get my charts to run from right to left...very sneaky!!
  • #307
  • May 9, 2020 2:09pm May 9, 2020 2:09pm
REAL OR ALGO ?

PRECISION OR COINCIDENCE ?




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  • #308
  • May 9, 2020 2:33pm May 9, 2020 2:33pm
Area's of interest....
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  • #309
  • May 9, 2020 9:11pm May 9, 2020 9:11pm
Quoting pooh123
Within that small group of banks, if 3~5 of them collude, it's very easy to manipulate price. And that price is passed down to the 2nd tier, 3rd tier, all the way to brokers of retail forex.
.....and you chose to believe such a grand collusion exist in the interbank fx market that's kept under wraps by nda all through the entire structure T1,T2,T3 and brokerages under CB supervision. To validate a psychology manipulation proposal that's targeted at retail stoploss(dumb money). Whatever floats your boat.
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  • #310
  • May 10, 2020 12:55am May 10, 2020 12:55am
Hi,Moodybot

This thread is very interesting to me. I trade only GBPUSD for a day trading.
Attached is my analysis chart drawing horizontal lines based on 126Day ADR.

Brown line:main target line, Brown thick line is 1 cycle line(1,200pips)
White dotted line:sub target line
Magenta line:resistance/support line(Sorry,you don't like the word of resistance/support line)
Aqua line:4H zigzag(I like Elliott wave theory)
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Real or Algo,Random or Manipulation?
Manipulation,what else is there to think?

Thanks in advance
  • #311
  • Edited 3:21am May 10, 2020 1:04am | Edited 3:21am
Quoting giselle1723
Hi,Moodybot This thread is very interesting to me. I trade only GBPUSD for a day trading. Attached is my analysis chart drawing horizontal lines based on 126Day ADR. Brown line:main target line, Brown thick line is 1 cycle line(1,200pips) White dotted line:sub target line Magenta line:resistance/support line(Sorry,you don't like the word of resistance/support line) Aqua line:4H zigzag(I like Elliott wave theory) {image} Real or Algo,Random or Manipulation? Manipulation,what else is there to think? Thanks in advance

Open thread Giselle, have an opinion, here one can express it.
Are we dealing with a real entity or an Algo.. in the scheme of things perhaps not too important.. but it’s nice to debate and find out other opinions.

Edit.. Targets, Herd Mentality, Support / Resistance, Supply Demand.. use whatever is comfortable to you.
  • #312
  • Edited 5:08am May 10, 2020 3:00am | Edited 5:08am
Really enjoying the thread guys. Some great opinions and information being brought to the fore!
  • #313
  • May 10, 2020 8:52am May 10, 2020 8:52am
Quoting bluesteele
REAL OR ALGO ? PRECISION OR COINCIDENCE ? {image}{image}
Please don't take me wrong but Preaching to the choir? really would appreciate your insights... some analysis etc..
  • #314
  • May 10, 2020 8:36pm May 10, 2020 8:36pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} .....and you chose to believe such a grand collusion exist in the interbank fx market that's kept under wraps by nda all through the entire structure T1,T2,T3 and brokerages under CB supervision. To validate a psychology manipulation proposal that's targeted at retail stoploss(dumb money). Whatever floats your boat.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKCN1SM0XS
  • #315
  • May 10, 2020 9:05pm May 10, 2020 9:05pm
Quoting pooh123
Forex price is not generated by retail traders. Market Makers generate the price. The 5~10 big banks at the top form a currency trading cartel- the Market Makers. They trade among themselves on the IBIS platform. Those banks include, Deutsche Bank, HSBC, Citi, Barclays, SNB, to name just a few. How they conduct trading on that platform and generate price can be anyone's guess. No one ever disclosed how they generate price in that process. I believe all those who have access to IBIS at those banks have signed NDA with their employers. Within that...
"It's a big club, and you ain’t in it." - George Carlin

have a great week ahead fellow traders
  • #316
  • Edited 10:47pm May 10, 2020 10:24pm | Edited 10:47pm
Quoting pooh123
{quote} https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKCN1SM0XS
This high profile case happened in May 2019.

This case does not explain for the scale of collusion you believe in some members suggestion of SINGLE ALGO PURPOSED to manipulate mass psychology in order to swallow up dumb money(herd mentality) stop-loss. Try harder.
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  • #317
  • May 10, 2020 10:39pm May 10, 2020 10:39pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} This high profile case happened in May 2019. This case does not explain for the scale of collusion you believe in some members suggestion of SINGLE ALGO PURPOSED to manipulate mass psychology in order to swallow up dumb money(herd mentality) stop-loss. Try harder.

Hi BW,

Considering this case Pooh mentioned happened within the operation & area management overviews of four Tier One banks.

And which involved 11 currency pairs.

Including the Pound, Euro and US Dollar ........


What was 'your' case again, that something like this couldn't happen ?
  • #318
  • May 10, 2020 10:44pm May 10, 2020 10:44pm
Quoting TimeTells
{quote} Hi BW, Considering this case Pooh mentioned happened within the operation & area management overviews of four Tier One banks. And which involved 11 currency pairs. Including the Pound, Euro and US Dollar ........ What was 'your' case again, that something like this couldn't happen ?
At no point do I suggest it couldn't happen. Fact is it did happen. Compliance department is there for this overseeing governance.

Read carefully what I wrote pls.
Original post edited to include bold.
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  • #319
  • May 10, 2020 10:48pm May 10, 2020 10:48pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} At no point do I suggest it couldn't happen. Fact is it did happen. Compliance department is there for this overseeing governance. Read carefully what I wrote pls.

Now that's better.

It would seem everybody is speculating, on all kinds of possibilities.

Which they use to explain the mechanics of the markets they trade.

Everyone has a theory.

Nothing wrong with that.
  • #320
  • May 10, 2020 10:59pm May 10, 2020 10:59pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} This high profile case happened in May 2019. This case does not explain for the scale of collusion you believe in some members suggestion of SINGLE ALGO PURPOSED to manipulate mass psychology in order to swallow up dumb money(herd mentality) stop-loss. Try harder.

Data arrives via our broker.
Stands to reason that data source should be easily found!
But traders cannot agree.. why??

Amazing that some traders claim to be able to trade a swing point almost to the pip. To know before hand where price is going. To predict where price is going. In so doing predicting where billions of dollars will be placed beforehand to move the market to that predicted price!!
The same market structure on each pair and each timeframe, generated by billions of dollars creating the same price movements. Continuously.

In my view, not on your nelly.

A mathematical Algorithm.
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