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  • #101
  • Mar 6, 2020 12:28am Mar 6, 2020 12:28am
sorry , another noob question from me to mr alexander.

so lets just proposed that the master client indicated a [$10 = 1%] a day (swap account currency) on the 10k portfolio in (Broker A =10k) but its running on 2 brokerage account .

isnt it estimated 0.5% on master client (Broker A) and 0.5% on slave client (Broker B), is that how we should interpret it as or the Master client is able to detect Slave Account balance and the figures in master account balance and do the actual projection base on total capital layout ?


i think a lot of people misunderstood the context of the [system's portfolio], although system indicated 1% on portfolio which in actual fact , you will need to divide by 2 to get actual returns on total capital assuming the user is using 2 broker for the technique [Broker A = 10k] & [Broker B = 10k].
  • #102
  • Mar 6, 2020 3:04am Mar 6, 2020 3:04am
Quoting cupidsux
sorry , another noob question from me to mr alexander. so lets just proposed that the master client indicated a [$10 = 1%] a day (swap account currency) on the 10k portfolio in (Broker A =10k) but its running on 2 brokerage account . isnt it estimated 0.5% on master client (Broker A) and 0.5% on slave client (Broker B), is that how we should interpret it as or the Master client is able to detect Slave Account balance and the figures in master account balance and do the actual projection base on total capital layout ? i think a lot of people misunderstood...
Questions are always welcome.

i think a lot of people misunderstood the context of the [system's portfolio], although system indicated 1% on portfolio which in actual fact , you will need to divide by 2 to get actual returns on total capital assuming the user is using 2 broker for the technique [Broker A = 10k] & [Broker B = 10k].

I am afraid you make things more complicated then they are. A portfolio can be a combination of two but also five or more accounts. The Master EA automatically calculates you all performance figures for the portfolio (all accounts) and not for individual accounts from your portfolio.

The portfolio figures can be displayed for active trades (running trades) and new trades (added but not executed trades).

  1. Daily Swap in percent, account currency and points.
  2. Monthly swap in percent, account currency and points.
  3. 12 Months swap in percent, account currency and points. (Period can be changed by the user)
  4. 24 Months swap in percent, account currency and points. (Period can be changed by the user)

Here is an example how this looks on my swap master control panel:

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I hope this helps. Please let me know if you have more questions.
Alexander
  • #103
  • Mar 6, 2020 6:35am Mar 6, 2020 6:35am
The 7.91%, is this a EURUSD portfolio or some other?
  • #104
  • Mar 6, 2020 9:35am Mar 6, 2020 9:35am
Quoting Braveheart90
The 7.91%, is this a EURUSD portfolio or some other?
Some other. The USD interest rate is at the moment low. That's why portfolios where we well USD against currencies with higher interest rate work better at the moment.
  • #105
  • Mar 6, 2020 1:22pm Mar 6, 2020 1:22pm
Interesting, I think.

When will the trades be closed?
At the end of the month?
  • #106
  • Mar 7, 2020 9:29am Mar 7, 2020 9:29am
Quoting Kvn
Interesting, I think. When will the trades be closed? At the end of the month?
When will the trades be closed?
At the end of the month?
We want to keep our trades open as long as possible. Ideally we close them after many weeks/months. There is no need to close the trades at the end of the month. If you want to reinvest the earning from the previous month you can simple add some positions to your portfolio.
  • #107
  • Mar 8, 2020 10:31am Mar 8, 2020 10:31am
This is very interesting, tell me you say the minimum you need is $1000, meaning $1000 for Account A and $1000 for Account B? So actually $2000?
  • #108
  • Mar 9, 2020 4:58am Mar 9, 2020 4:58am
Quoting Dkmillion
This is very interesting, tell me you say the minimum you need is $1000, meaning $1000 for Account A and $1000 for Account B? So actually $2000?
Hello dkmillion.

1000$ or equivalent in another currency is the recommend minimum if you want to run one simple portfolio. A simple portfolio means that you will be trading one instrument (long/short) on two trading accounts. 500$ deposit on account a and 500 $ deposit on account b.

However, that really is the minimum amount needed. Personally I think it is ok to start small but to reduce the impact of additional costs (wire fees etc), the target should be to build up the account to 2000$ or more quickly.

I hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any further questions.
Alexander
  • #109
  • Mar 9, 2020 1:56pm Mar 9, 2020 1:56pm
Thank you for the insight Alexander.

What happens when the markets are freaking out. Like today when the DOW drops 2000 points. How does that affect a running portfolio?
  • #110
  • Mar 10, 2020 4:00am Mar 10, 2020 4:00am
Quoting Kvn
Thank you for the insight Alexander. What happens when the markets are freaking out. Like today when the DOW drops 2000 points. How does that affect a running portfolio?
Quick changes in volatility and large directional moves usually means that your portfolio(s) will get stopped out earlier than anticipated. That happens every now and then and is part of the trading business.

Fortunately, it happens very rarely, the extra costs are not very high. If trading was halted on your portfolio, you will have one extra re balancing circle. That means you have to re balance your accounts and place your trades again.

That is all.
  • #111
  • Mar 10, 2020 4:16am Mar 10, 2020 4:16am
I want to buy the software but spend about 3 days investigating brokers where I can trade just 2 pairs to make money on swap, but everything changed now and it seems there are no opportunities anymore. Can you just give me an example of 2 pairs on 2 brokers that work? I cannot find any, usdczk does not work anymore!
  • #112
  • Mar 10, 2020 7:45am Mar 10, 2020 7:45am
Quoting Dkmillion
I want to buy the software but spend about 3 days investigating brokers where I can trade just 2 pairs to make money on swap, but everything changed now and it seems there are no opportunities anymore. Can you just give me an example of 2 pairs on 2 brokers that work? I cannot find any, usdczk does not work anymore!

there's still pairs that are available for swap to be positive, its quite dependent on which broker you gonna use and whats the leverage. thats about it. the higher the leverage, theoretically the higher you earn but take note of the risk involved due to accounts that are not ECN, since the spread for exotic pair can be extremely high during roll over time and therefore the position can be force close @ stated margin level %.

Alexander has been a very nice person answering the question, but maybe a bit slow on reply, thats all. was wondering:

1)when will the next update on the EA will be & whether the EA is able to exisitingly manage previous version of EA.
2) Ability to start multiple trades base on 1 main trade with spread [lower then] .
3) increase position (auto) base on spread [lower then]

*reason being, spread on non-ECN exotic pair can be extremely high, 1500 points spread, it serve no purposes for position to be open at such a illiquid period of time (usually on roll over server time 2359-0000 hrs.)
  • #113
  • Mar 10, 2020 9:41am Mar 10, 2020 9:41am
I requested a refund a day ago via email, and also followed up via the swapmaster forum(although my post was not approved by a moderator so it cannot be seen) and have not heard anything back, but I notice Alexander still had the time to make a new forex factory post. I am hoping that I will hear back soon as Alexander seems like a genuine guy. I will update when I hear back
  • #114
  • Mar 11, 2020 1:03am Mar 11, 2020 1:03am
Quoting 1qaz2wsx33
I requested a refund a day ago via email, and also followed up via the swapmaster forum(although my post was not approved by a moderator so it cannot be seen) and have not heard anything back, but I notice Alexander still had the time to make a new forex factory post. I am hoping that I will hear back soon as Alexander seems like a genuine guy. I will update when I hear back
I was looking to get the software, can you let me know any particular reason you asked for refund and if your experience has been good with it?.
  • #115
  • Mar 11, 2020 2:49am Mar 11, 2020 2:49am
Quoting 1qaz2wsx33
I requested a refund a day ago via email, and also followed up via the swapmaster forum(although my post was not approved by a moderator so it cannot be seen) and have not heard anything back, but I notice Alexander still had the time to make a new forex factory post. I am hoping that I will hear back soon as Alexander seems like a genuine guy. I will update when I hear back
That is interesting.
You register accounts on multiple forums to complain publicly that your refund request has not been processed, although you requested a refund a day ago. And you find it obliviously disturbing that I had time to answer questions on a public board.

A few things to consider:

1) Our refund policy is super simple. If a client decides (from whatever reason) that the software he or she bought is not for him/her, a full refund can be requested. The request needs to include the order id and the full name of the client.

2) We value the time of our clients and respect them. At the same time we expect that a client who requests a refund can manage to include order id and his or her name when requesting a refund. That allows us to verify that the E-Mail comes from the client and more importantly we can lookup the order quickly without guesswork and the need to dig through data bases.

3) Refund requests are processed within 3 business days, not 24 hours.

Every now and then it happens that a client thinks it is ok not include order id and name. Such requests usually looks like this: Hey dude, your software is to complicated. Full refund. Sometimes sent via forum private message on a public forum or twitter direct message, facebook or skype chat with no clue whatsoever who the sender is.

In the past when I received such requests I asked myself: Why in the world would somebody send something like this? Does the person believe that we are his/her personal secretary who should dig out his order details so that he/she don't need to do it? Or is the person simple rude, lazy and unfriendly?
My conclusion is that the refund policy is clear, easy to understand and that it is not too much asked to include name and order id in a refund request.

Now back to you 1qaz2wsx33. If you requested a refund and included your name (not a forum nick name or first name) and order id, I can guarantee you that your request will be processed or has been already processed.

But if you sent a request without any information what allows us to quickly identify your order, the E-Mail went perhaps straight to the bin and no refund will be processed until we receive a request with the required information. No matter how much posts you make on public boards all over the place.

I hope this is understandable and I wish you all the best for your trading.

Alexander
  • #116
  • Mar 11, 2020 3:10am Mar 11, 2020 3:10am
Quoting Dkmillion
I want to buy the software but spend about 3 days investigating brokers where I can trade just 2 pairs to make money on swap, but everything changed now and it seems there are no opportunities anymore. Can you just give me an example of 2 pairs on 2 brokers that work? I cannot find any, usdczk does not work anymore!
Hello Dkmillion.
If you spent 3 days to research swap rates you should have found plenty of working combinations with reputable brokers. The USD interest rate changed but that does not mean that there are no longer opportunities. It only means that the USD as swap paying currency will be replaced by other currencies. In other words: The game is the same, only the players change. That is perfectly normal and happens from time to time.

I hope this helps.
Alexander
  • #117
  • Mar 11, 2020 3:17am Mar 11, 2020 3:17am
Quoting cupidsux
{quote} there's still pairs that are available for swap to be positive, its quite dependent on which broker you gonna use and whats the leverage. thats about it. the higher the leverage, theoretically the higher you earn but take note of the risk involved due to accounts that are not ECN, since the spread for exotic pair can be extremely high during roll over time and therefore the position can be force close @ stated margin level %. Alexander has been a very nice person answering the question, but maybe a bit slow on reply, thats all. was wondering:...
1) when will the next update on the EA will be & whether the EA is able to exisitingly manage previous version of EA.

We still test all new functions. You can expect to receive the new version within the next 1-2 weeks. The new version will pick up "old" trades automatically. It will be not required to renew the trades.

2) Ability to start multiple trades base on 1 main trade with spread [lower then] .

A max spread feature will be not included int he new version but it might be added in the future.

3) increase position (auto) base on spread [lower then]

Lot sizes needs to be specified by the user. However, to make this more convenient, the new version supports grouping of trades and auto execution of all trades.

I hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any further questions.

Alexander
  • #118
  • Mar 11, 2020 3:42am Mar 11, 2020 3:42am
Quoting A. Collins
{quote}But if you sent a request without any information what allows us to quickly identify your order, the E-Mail went perhaps straight to the bin and no refund will be processed until we receive a request with the required information. No matter how much posts you make on public boards all over the place. I hope this is understandable and I wish you all the best for your trading. Alexander
Hi Alexander,

I apologize, I have sent a follow up with the required info. I think I was hasty because of bad experiences in the past and I realize now I was out of line. If you could please just confirm that you have received it either here or via email that would be great thanks.

Those who asked here and via PM why I am asking for a refund? I will say that from what I saw the software is great, but I simply decided that it is not for me.
  • #119
  • Mar 11, 2020 6:59am Mar 11, 2020 6:59am
Quoting 1qaz2wsx33
{quote} Hi Alexander, I apologize, I have sent a follow up with the required info. I think I was hasty because of bad experiences in the past and I realize now I was out of line. If you could please just confirm that you have received it either here or via email that would be great thanks. Those who asked here and via PM why I am asking for a refund? I will say that from what I saw the software is great, but I simply decided that it is not for me.
Hello 1qaz2wsx33.

Apology accepted. We received your request. My colleague Andrew will send you another E-Mail when everything is processed.

Thank you for giving it a try.

I wish you all the best for your trading.

Alexander
  • #120
  • Mar 12, 2020 2:57am Mar 12, 2020 2:57am
Ok. So if one account goes up the other goes down and we try to keep them balanced. Right?

What when we are not quick enough to re balance them and everything gets closed. What are the costs?

Do we face losses?

If we do, how large are they?
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