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  • #301
  • Nov 1, 2019 11:44pm Nov 1, 2019 11:44pm
And E and F

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File Type: ex4 E.ex4   20 KB | 462 downloads

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  • #303
  • Edited 6:59am Nov 2, 2019 12:02am | Edited 6:59am
Sorry for long time not updating here, i was too obsessed with cracking the C indicator from BTM,
i think i did re create the C indicator on my EA, (i am not sure as well, but let's take a look)
Here's the EA "BTM C Indicator.ex4"
Also you need to put the attached "TMA nrp + bands + alrets_mtf.mq4" to your indicator folder. This indicator include a new buffer system that needed by the EA.

MQ4 version of the EA will be shared once we know that there are no bug left on the EA

Edit : To avoid error from new user that stumled upon this thread, please download all the indicator below and put it on your indicator folder. Make sure to replace if you already have some of them inside of your indicator folder before, since there's some line i change to make it works.
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File Type: mq4 TMA nrp + bands + alerts_mtf.mq4   9 KB | 349 downloads
File Type: mq4 G.mq4   27 KB | 332 downloads
File Type: mq4 TMA+CG mladen.mq4   10 KB | 339 downloads
File Type: ex4 BTM C Indicator.ex4   391 KB | 399 downloads
  • #304
  • Nov 2, 2019 12:06am Nov 2, 2019 12:06am
Here's the screenshoot of the EA after run,
The white arrow is original C indicator and the aqua color is the C indicator that i recreate inside the EA.
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  • #305
  • Edited 2:04am Nov 2, 2019 12:09am | Edited 2:04am
Quoting cfudge
There is another solution...we could have the EA made with both sets of indicators and user gets to choose which indis to use. Not sure if this is possible, just a thought to try and continue on with the project. Alternatively, we could have 2 EAs ...
Yes, this is possible, imho.

For example:

Inserted Code
input bool IsUseBTMIndicators = true;
 
 
string indiName1 = "D";
string indiName2 = "TMA_centered_edited";
 
//+------------------------------------------------------------------+
double dUpper(ENUM_TIMEFRAMES period, int pos=0)
{
   if (IsUseBTMIndicators)
      return (iCustom(_Symbol, period, indiName1, "0", 1, pos));
   else
      return (iCustom(_Symbol, period, indiName2, "0", 20, 0, 2,618, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, 1, pos));
}
 
//+------------------------------------------------------------------+
double dLower(ENUM_TIMEFRAMES period, int pos=0)
{
   if (IsUseBTMIndicators)
      return (iCustom(_Symbol, period, indiName1, "0", 2, pos));
   else
      return (iCustom(_Symbol, period, indiName2, "0", 20, 0, 2,618, false, false, false, false, false, false, false, 2, pos));
}
  • #306
  • Nov 2, 2019 12:24am Nov 2, 2019 12:24am
Quoting aaven
{quote} Evernewtron, Thanks for the excellent effort- Really quick turn around...Much appreciated... I see there are 2 TMA's: One Repaints and the other is Non-Repainting. My understanding of TMA's roe in BTM system is: 1. Identify the latest/current trend. 2. Generate Boundaries for certain conditions: Example: if TP1 and TP2 fall outside; there is no trade. If we keep both Repainting TMA and Non-Repainting TMA side by side and watch in real time- They both seem to be doing a good job in identifying what the current trend is: Repainting: {image}...
Thanks for your appreciation,
1. I use the Non repainting to do the job defining the trend and Repainting TMA for make sure that TP1 and TP2 are still inside the bands.
2. So, the TMA Period and TMA_Repaint_HL was (i guess) the same things which is a variable of period of the TMA. "TMA Period" is corresponded to TMA Non repaint, TMA_Repaint_HL is corresponded to the TMA Repaint. I don't know how to explain it in easy way, seems lil bit complicated but it's really simple if you digest it slowly.

By the way, you can use my last EA above on post #303 since there i replace the xSupertrend with the C Indicator that i (hopefully) did crack, also on the last EA i fix some bugs.
  • #307
  • Edited 3:14am Nov 2, 2019 2:41am | Edited 3:14am
Quoting zed.fr
. . . other indi are useless , i just realize that when i coded the dash with uoutput data. there only 3 indi needed. My dash just use D indi or "TMA+CG mladen NRP TEAMTRADER2.mq4" to determine the trend . and catch the Arrow signal to give a buy/sell signal. and a Pivot indicator because the pivot indi of BTM system does not give output data. i just use an another one ( Auto-Pivot Plotter V1-41.mq4 ) i never use the other indi in the dash !!! only D ( for trend) and C indi( for arrow) . . .
To use with old system, indicator A, B still needed.
If you delete indicator A from indicator folder, more arrows will come out.
If you delete indicator B from indicator folder, no arrow will come out.
Of course no need to write indicator A & B into coding, because indicator C will call A & B for data.

--------

To use with old system in the chart, just attach indicator C, D, E, (F is optional) into chart, but make sure indicator A & B is in indicator folder or else won't get exact arrow come out.
  • #308
  • Nov 2, 2019 2:45am Nov 2, 2019 2:45am
Hi guy's

Amazed at all this. Appreciate the work and effort of the FF community.

Do these new EA's take into account the TIPS at all? As in are they coded in. I want to test the new EA's, but unsure what ones do what. Have the 2 posted so far just take the existing system with some tweaks? Or is it a direct replica of the system we already had.

Apologies in advanced,I'm after a safe and valid alternative to the BTM dashboard EA. I used the autotrading function and just let it runs it's course once set.

Thanks again
  • #309
  • Nov 2, 2019 2:47am Nov 2, 2019 2:47am
Quoting trieuVhh
{quote} Most oscillitor indi will fail in long run if trade ob/os, divergence trade can be better. For me just two fast ema and hma crossover as entry, even more reliable. Thats why C arrow are special and BTM system profitable
You miss out my wording --> cover by indicator D

Most oscillator indi will fail in long run because it didn't sync will trend when trending, when it against the trend it fail. That is why indicator D come in to cover it.
  • #310
  • Nov 2, 2019 2:50am Nov 2, 2019 2:50am
Quoting Ducdaovn
Like Zed.fr, Im too disappointed with BTM. So now, forget and let him free. Just one thing I am sure, and you can trust me, there's nothing impossible. BTM give us a sign to build a system. That's enough. I give you here, try my EA. It builded base on BTM strategy, with some mods. You can test it to understand how BTM system work, so you can build your own system. My EA working with 28 pairs. To test it: 1/ Broker MUST have 28 pairs from AUD CAD CHF GBP EUR USD JPY NZD. Maybe EA not work with surfix pair. (Ex: EURUSD, not EURUSD.cent). I using GlobalPrime...
Use below code, save you and the users a lot of works
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TotalCurrency = SymbolsTotal(true);
for(i = 0; i < TotalCurrency; i++)
{
   Currency = SymbolName(i,true);
   UpdateParameters(Currency);
It extract ALL symbols from the market watch window.
  • #311
  • Edited 3:17am Nov 2, 2019 3:01am | Edited 3:17am
Quoting zed.fr
{quote} . . . other indi are useless , i just realize that when i coded the dash with uoutput data. there only 3 indi needed. My dash just use D indi or "TMA+CG mladen NRP TEAMTRADER2.mq4" to determine the trend . and catch the Arrow signal to give a buy/sell signal. and a Pivot indicator because the pivot indi of BTM system does not give output data. i just use an another one ( Auto-Pivot Plotter V1-41.mq4 ) i never use the other indi in the dash !!! only D ( for trend) and C indi( for arrow) . . .
Indi "TMA+CG mladen NRP TEAMTRADER2.mq4"
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File Type: ex4 TMA+CG mladen NRP TEAMTRADER2.ex4   31 KB | 263 downloads
File Type: mq4 TMA+CG mladen NRP TEAMTRADER2.mq4   20 KB | 278 downloads
  • #312
  • Nov 2, 2019 3:18am Nov 2, 2019 3:18am
Aww, cant keep up with the thread even I have read all posts here. every one keep posting indi, EA... but dont even read past few pages ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ︵ ┻━┻
  • #313
  • Nov 2, 2019 3:22am Nov 2, 2019 3:22am
Quoting Mapseam
{quote} Indi "TMA+CG mladen NRP TEAMTRADER2.mq4" {file} {file}
Hi all..
i am afraid to say this version is a repainter although it is called "TMA+CG mladen NRP TEAMTRADER2"
Attached Image

calculateTma method accesses future value of price which means it is recalculating/repainting past values

Anyways it doesn't matter if it repaints or not for me.. I just want to warn ppl here

Here is the real nonrepaint version i modified with Repaints switch..
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File Type: mq4 TMA+CG mladen NRP TEAMTRADER2.mq4   20 KB | 346 downloads
  • #314
  • Nov 2, 2019 3:29am Nov 2, 2019 3:29am
Quoting Evernewtron
{quote} Thanks for your appreciation, 1. I use the Non repainting to do the job defining the trend and Repainting TMA for make sure that TP1 and TP2 are still inside the bands. 2. So, the TMA Period and TMA_Repaint_HL was (i guess) the same things which is a variable of period of the TMA. "TMA Period" is corresponded to TMA Non repaint, TMA_Repaint_HL is corresponded to the TMA Repaint. I don't know how to explain it in easy way, seems lil bit complicated but it's really simple if you digest it slowly. By the way, you can use my last EA above on...
Thank for your EA but can u answer aaven these questions first?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=12594300#post12594300
  • #315
  • Nov 2, 2019 3:33am Nov 2, 2019 3:33am
Quoting trieuVhh
Aww, cant keep up with the thread even I have read all posts here. every one keep posting indi, EA... but dont even read past few pages ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ︵ ┻━┻
Trieuvhh,

No problem. This is our reference and starting post.

Post by Chris:

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=12595660#post12595660


You mentioned, you could prepare a better document on the trading rules. Please use the above word document from the link. First and foremost- we need to have a well defined trading rules document that we can give to to our coder friends.


We are looking at two entry types:

1. Chris-Super Trend:

Rule1
Rule 2
..
etc...

2. Classic BTM

Rule 1
Rule 2
..

etc...

Rest is upto you- you want to include few diagrams/example trades etc...

Then Chris can have a look...

You up for it?

Thanks
  • #316
  • Nov 2, 2019 3:35am Nov 2, 2019 3:35am
Quoting zed.fr
Hi ALL !!!! I m Zed the coder of DASH BTM. sorry for my english , my native language is French... hope you will andertood me. i do a lot of gramatical mistake and never re read what i wrote..... i wrote to all who use the BTM system and have read the thread about on FF. i was out of trade and dont read FF since 1 month for vacation with my wife... and at my return (3 days ago) i just read this amazing history with hacker and BTM ... lol ... i m really thinking he is a scammer when i read the tread about scammer BTM showing a lot of mistake...
For some strange reasons, the dashboard is not working for me anymore, even though I now have the valid indicators from you. Does the dashboard also have an expiry set on it?
Simplicity Is The Ultimate Sophistication!
  • #317
  • Nov 2, 2019 3:46am Nov 2, 2019 3:46am
Quoting Impenia
{quote} For some strange reasons, the dashboard is not working for me anymore, even though I now have the valid indicators from you. Does the dashboard also have an expiry set on it?
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=12475814#post12475814
  • #318
  • Nov 2, 2019 3:49am Nov 2, 2019 3:49am
Quoting Impenia
{quote} For some strange reasons, the dashboard is not working for me anymore, even though I now have the valid indicators from you. Does the dashboard also have an expiry set on it?
Wait market open
  • #319
  • Nov 2, 2019 5:30am Nov 2, 2019 5:30am
TMA--The conundrum of the indicator that both repaints and does not repaint. As enigmatic as Schroedinger's cat that is both dead and alive.

This is an example of why I have said in another thread that it is important to understand the indicators that you are using and not simply make assumptions about the behavior, or rely on "experts" to provide a strategy for using them.

If one looks at how the TMA indicator plots the line compared to a line of a simple TMA calculation done by code, it is immediately apparent that the TMA indicator has shifted to the left the TMA calculated line. The shift is half of the period. That is, if plotting a calculated TMA(100), the TMA indicator line is shifted left 50 bars. This leaves the most recent 50 bars with no indicator line. So some technique must be added that gives some kind of values to these most recent 50 bars; it is this set of data that will repaint. Let's call this part of the indicator line "fake painted". So the TMA line that is drawn for the most recent 50 bars is just a "feel good" image produced as a "fake-painted" line; one would not "feel good", and perhaps even freak out, if many of the most recent bars had no indicator line painted on them.

Therefore, the TMA indicator line will NOT REPAINT bars older than the most recent half-period. So, it is NON-REPAINTING! But wait! What about those most recent bars? They MUST repaint as new data come into the calculations. So, it is REPAINTING!

So if looking for some kind of signals in real time, valid signals can be produced during the period where the "fake painted" line is drawn. As time passes, the "fake-painted" line is recalculated to become the REAL indicator line (shifted, of course). This is why if trying to do backtesting or even just scrolling back a chart and examining signals, SOME of the signals seen will indeed represent a valid signal that occurred in real time, and SOME of the signals do not represent valid real time conditions.

The image is the D indicator on M15, Value 240. The magenta line is an SMA of an SMA of an SMA, shifted left. The red vertical is where the data for the magenta line ends, so all of the bars to the right of it will have a repainted magenta line. All of the bars to the right of the blue vertical will have the D indicator lines repainted.
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  • #320
  • Nov 2, 2019 5:41am Nov 2, 2019 5:41am
Quoting DrDave
TMA--The conundrum of the indicator that both repaints and does not repaint. As enigmatic as Schroedinger's cat that is both dead and alive. This is an example of why I have said in another thread that it is important to understand the indicators that you are using and not simply make assumptions about the behavior, or rely on "experts" to provide a strategy for using them. If one looks at how the TMA indicator plots the line compared to a line of a simple TMA calculation done by code, it is immediately apparent that the TMA indicator has shifted...
Well Put Doctor Dave...
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