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  • #281
  • Nov 1, 2019 4:22pm Nov 1, 2019 4:22pm
Note the BTM said he started the famous "reversal system" exatcly on October 31th, just a day before he disabled the indicators.
  • #282
  • Nov 1, 2019 4:23pm Nov 1, 2019 4:23pm
Quoting AleksanderBr
{quote} Aaven, No need to get mad. I don’t think it is right of you to make assumptions. I’ve already created an EA based on the old indicators but it doesn’t use any arrow because there was no arrow decoded at the time. Also, I’d rather just use the ones directly from the BTM system we all know. I have everything for the EA but the arrows. Not sure if that’s been found yet. If they have, please let me know. Just want to be clear that decoded doesnt mean decompiled. Simply means found from another thread just like all the other indicators have been....
AleksanderBr,

The environment is such, that people are just being cautious. Don't take it the wrong way. For the EA you created, what was the trigger for entry that you used instead of the arrows?

Thanks
  • #283
  • Nov 1, 2019 5:01pm Nov 1, 2019 5:01pm
Thank you for this post all the contributors. I'm not a coder, I'm just a novice. BTM system expires, once be agitated, or even send an email to BTM, get reply is charging. BTM open thread said before the system free of charge, incredibly secretly in MQ4 made a limit. Waste our time for the system paid the, today I also went to the consulting coders to compile the system against. Ok also didn't go to do so, or loss of a fee. Thank you again for contributions to the original system file uploader to restore original dashboard can normal work.
This system is profitable ，Forgive my English is not my mother tongue
  • #284
  • Nov 1, 2019 5:15pm Nov 1, 2019 5:15pm
Hello guys,

I made a request/created a new thread in the platform tech to see if any coder would help us...

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=959624

Just wanted to update you-do not use the above thread for discussions, please stick to this thread only...

If you have any FF friends who are coders, do reach out to them to see if they can help us with the EA creation...

Thanks
  • #285
  • Nov 1, 2019 5:30pm Nov 1, 2019 5:30pm
I just wanted to ask why we are making an EA? It is really great that everyone is here in one place contributing about this, but hear me out. I have a couple of suggestions.

First suggestion: The system has been recreated (we have found all the indicators except for the arrow. If we want, we can still look for the arrow indicator if we don't want to use the time masked arrow indicator). Why don't we move to 'Trading Systems'? Then discuss there about this system, just like BTM's discussion was?

The reason I say this is because every discussion from now on will be about the EA: optimization, refining, troubleshooting etc. It won't be as much about the system as all the discussions will be about the EA itself. Then every few posts we will have someone who will tell us that this or that component of EA isn't loading.

Anyone who wants to make an EA can do so at their own time.

(If you look at the 'Extreme TMA' thread from Al, you can see there wasn't an EA. All the discussions were/are about the system itself, even till this day.)

Second suggestion: We make 2 topics. One topic in 'Trading Systems' for anyone who wants to trade it manually. Another topic somewhere else which then will be about the EA.


What do you guys think?
  • #286
  • Nov 1, 2019 5:35pm Nov 1, 2019 5:35pm
Quoting Tdoornottodo
I just wanted to ask why we are making an EA? It is really great that everyone is here in one place contributing about this, but hear me out. I have a couple of suggestions. First suggestion: The system has been recreated (we have found all the indicators except for the arrow. If we want, we can still look for the arrow indicator if we don't want to use the time masked arrow indicator). Why don't we move to 'Trading Systems'? Then discuss there about this system, just like BTM's discussion was? The reason I say this is because every discussion from...
The post above yours will probably be where the EA discussion will end up.

As for the Strategy Thread I think we need to further refine our intentions towards which indicators we are using. We are all here , now, and a further fracturing of this community will not be good.

Just my feelings
  • #287
  • Nov 1, 2019 5:37pm Nov 1, 2019 5:37pm
Quoting Tdoornottodo
I just wanted to ask why we are making an EA? It is really great that everyone is here in one place contributing about this, but hear me out. I have a couple of suggestions. First suggestion: The system has been recreated (we have found all the indicators except for the arrow. If we want, we can still look for the arrow indicator if we don't want to use the time masked arrow indicator). Why don't we move to 'Trading Systems'? Then discuss there about this system, just like BTM's discussion was? The reason I say this is because every discussion from...
Sounds logical. Ask BTM what he thinks we should do, lol
  • #288
  • Nov 1, 2019 5:51pm Nov 1, 2019 5:51pm
Quoting Tdoornottodo
I just wanted to ask why we are making an EA? It is really great that everyone is here in one place contributing about this, but hear me out. I have a couple of suggestions. First suggestion: The system has been recreated (we have found all the indicators except for the arrow. If we want, we can still look for the arrow indicator if we don't want to use the time masked arrow indicator). Why don't we move to 'Trading Systems'? Then discuss there about this system, just like BTM's discussion was? The reason I say this is because every discussion from...
Tdoornottodo

The rules of BTM lend themselves to automation{most of them}- One version proposed by Chris deals with high probability trade that requires no discretion- To get the true picture of the strategy- running a minimum forward test for 2~3 months and taking ALL trades is necessary that cannot be done manually. Once the results are in, one can choose in what way they want to proceed.

Also, you will have the same issues with a thread on manual trading: Do my bands look flat? Why is there no arrow in chart? Why am i not getting alerts? Is any one trading CHF pairs? These things come with the turf...

Also, with the availability of the indicators, there isn't anything preventing people from opening a journal thread and most importantly as Chris said- We are at a nascent stage, being fractured doesn't help one bit...

Thanks
  • #289
  • Nov 1, 2019 7:46pm Nov 1, 2019 7:46pm
Any strategy cover by the indicator D (TMA band) and indicator E (Pivot line) sound to be a profitable strategy.

Cover by the indicator D mean:
BUY when top & bottom of D bands BOTH slope up and setup (indicator leaving OS) at Lower band of D
SELL when top & bottom of D bands BOTH slope down and setup (indicator leaving OB) at Upper band of D

Cover by the indicator E mean:
Use indicator E as TP1 & TP2 and SL at SL1 or outside band and baseband as a guideline.

Take a look for CCI 30, RSI 7, KDJ 13
  • #290
  • Nov 1, 2019 8:25pm Nov 1, 2019 8:25pm
Here is the response from FerruFx.

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What I don't know is if someone had to decompile the code in order to do what they did. My feeling is yes, however, I thought that you couldn't do this to modern ex4 files.

FWIW
  • #291
  • Nov 1, 2019 8:36pm Nov 1, 2019 8:36pm
Quoting theunkown
I think the indi is very clever and well put together I have been backtesting for months now and also on backtesting Blu-FX seems good but I didnt know anyone could disable a indicator and it would affect everyone using it. Always news to me!!!

Its easy, he had already pre-planned his binning the thread and all the stories, so he put a bug from the beginning on all the indicators. Its not hard as long as you have the mq4 file, you can code in it an expiry date. I do that all the time. When the indicator or EA expires, no one can have access to it anymore. He did not disable it from any where. The bug was n the indicator from the onset.
  • #292
  • Nov 1, 2019 8:37pm Nov 1, 2019 8:37pm
Quoting Wavegarrick
Anyway a smart trading idea by BTM and I guess will work for most. I don't get the Italian police bit in California, maybe high tech undercover covert espionage operation with BTM hiding in the UK under witness protection. I must stop watching movies.. Alarm bells and I suggest BTM, if you are going to come forward with your system you will not worry about all the trash e-mails. If you do, then you have wasted everybody's time with months and months of forwards testing. I am trying to understand as well how you would make an indicator...
Its easy, he had already pre-planned his binning the thread and all the stories, so he put a bug from the beginning on all the indicators. Its not hard as long as you have the mq4 file, you can code in it an expiry date. I do that all the time. When the indicator or EA expires, no one can have access to it anymore. He did not disable it from any where. The bug was n the indicator from the onset.
  • #293
  • Nov 1, 2019 8:43pm Nov 1, 2019 8:43pm
This trading strategy is a mixed of both trend and momentum based. We need to be on the correct trend, and a good market momentum to move the price to hit the TP1. For me, as we might want to start from the basic again, and then I will look for 100MA on 1hr & 4hr chart both to be in sync with the TMA band, up or down. This is the very basic filter I used so far, no plan to add more. But love to hear the insights from other traders here.
  • #294
  • Edited 9:23pm Nov 1, 2019 8:58pm | Edited 9:23pm
Quoting bdunn
This trading strategy is a mixed of both trend and momentum based. We need to be on the correct trend, and a good market momentum to move the price to hit the TP1. For me, as we might want to start from the basic again, and then I will look for 100MA on 1hr & 4hr chart both to be in sync with the TMA band, up or down. This is the very basic filter I used so far, no plan to add more. But love to hear the insights from other traders here.
100 MA is too lagging and not necessary, if I want to confirm by a bigger trend, I can add TMA D1 band. But the strategy's target is "scalping" every smallest trend of H4
  • #295
  • Nov 1, 2019 9:38pm Nov 1, 2019 9:38pm
Quoting Ah-Ong
Any strategy cover by the indicator D (TMA band) and indicator E (Pivot line) sound to be a profitable strategy. Cover by the indicator D mean: BUY when top & bottom of D bands BOTH slope up and setup (indicator leaving OS) at Lower band of D SELL when top & bottom of D bands BOTH slope down and setup (indicator leaving OB) at Upper band of D Cover by the indicator E mean: Use indicator E as TP1 & TP2 and SL at SL1 or outside band and baseband as a guideline. Take a look for CCI 30, RSI 7, KDJ 13
Most oscillitor indi will fail in long run if trade ob/os, divergence trade can be better. For me just two fast ema and hma crossover as entry, even more reliable. Thats why C arrow are special and BTM system profitable
  • #296
  • Edited 10:07pm Nov 1, 2019 9:38pm | Edited 10:07pm
Hi ALL !!!!

I m Zed the coder of DASH BTM.

sorry for my english , my native language is French... hope you will andertood me.
i do a lot of gramatical mistake and never re read what i wrote.....

i wrote to all who use the BTM system and have read the thread about on FF.
i was out of trade and dont read FF since 1 month for vacation with my wife... and at my return (3 days ago) i just read this amazing history with hacker and BTM ... lol ...
i m really thinking he is a scammer when i read the tread about scammer BTM showing a lot of mistake he made in his lie ... all prove that is he a Scammer and a liar.
and more .. it a he is selling MY Dash for 750 $ !!!

so i just contact him by mail. he was thanksfull for me because i coded a dash without the source code , just by catching all output data from indi.
i helped him a lot with the dash , he said .
i requested for a free version only for me and he respond to me that he want to give me the system for free for 1 month renewable each month for free .. life time .
i just have to send him a email and he send me a new version with new expiration date !!

i can post all email i have with himif you want !

he just do it yesterday. an send me a newer version.... ( you will find all indi and template in attached document for this message)

I m just not happy that he is selling " MY DASH " .... i will probably make a request at FF in a few days regarding that !!

if i see my dash somewhere on a selling web site. i will do what is need to do... and he will have to give me some money for that !
he dont have the mq4 of the dash.. i never send to him the MQ4 file. so he have only EX4 of the dash.
i can prove that is my dash with the mq4 and more .
as a coder i like to put easter egg inside my code.
there is a Easter egg inside that i m the onlyone can actived it by pressing some keyboard combination touch !!!
hahaha .. he want to play... but he under estimate me...
so i can prove at anytime that the dash is made by me.. even he is selling it.
So please if you buy this system, just contact me . i need prove that is my dash board ( was free for all , with out expirration date) have been sold !
with this i can do some process with lawer . he will regret what he is doing .and at the end hope going to jail !
that all... he played with us and with me ... i m ready to play.. this is not a problem for me... he will regret it for sure but it is too late for me .
You lost BTM. hahaha...

to BTM for your future scamm , you have to never forget that : Never wake up the dragon that is sleeping in me ... otherwise it's game over for you..

SO NOW , let go . let's make sure BTM lost has its own game.
if i can help to recode a dash i will do it. and more if needed !

regarding BTM Strategy :
for all coder :
the most important indi is the D indi . but in reallity it's just "TMA+CG mladen NRP TEAMTRADER2.mq4" i have the correct parameter - just contact me.
it just match perfectly with D indi.
other indi are useless , i just realize that when i coded the dash with uoutput data. there only 3 indi needed.
My dash just use D indi or "TMA+CG mladen NRP TEAMTRADER2.mq4" to determine the trend . and catch the Arrow signal to give a buy/sell signal.
and a Pivot indicator because the pivot indi of BTM system does not give output data. i just use an another one ( Auto-Pivot Plotter V1-41.mq4 )
i never use the other indi in the dash !!!
only D ( for trend) and C indi( for arrow) and Auto-Pivot Plotter V1-41.mq4 (for TP and SL).

i think that the arrow indi "c" is based on a MACD cross by 0 + RSI >50 <50 + simple MA 100 and otherthing i did not find for now. i will investigate more.
i think we have 1 month before new expiration date...
so coder , everybody.. please just try to see some correlation with other indi.
i' m thinking that BTM just use some indicator really simple like MACD, MA 100 , STO and maybe more.
it will be easy to found if we are together at work.

but that is not important because the C indicator give a lot of signat... i work on other arrow indi give more better signal.
When i got it !! it s finnish.. we will have all thing needed ! WE WIN ... HE LOST !!! hahaha
and we will do it !! for sure !

Kind Regards
Zed


and i just forget THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ABOUT ..... :
a special message to BTM :
just click on link to see what i want to say to BTM :
http://www.ascii-me.com/snapshots/YBeRUnUQEB.jpg

Hope i will help all !!!
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File Type: zip Fred.zip   121 KB | 567 downloads
  • #297
  • Nov 1, 2019 9:45pm Nov 1, 2019 9:45pm
Quoting cfudge
Here is the response from FerruFx. {image} What I don't know is if someone had to decompile the code in order to do what they did. My feeling is yes, however, I thought that you couldn't do this to modern ex4 files. FWIW
As Ah ong said, russian traders really good at this ( a compliment). Imo, these indis have been decomplied, using it or not up to you. If u feel uneasy, we can stick with your new strategy, i personally like it more
  • #298
  • Nov 1, 2019 10:27pm Nov 1, 2019 10:27pm
Quoting zed.fr
Hi ALL !!!! I m Zed the coder of DASH BTM. sorry for my english , my native language is French... hope you will andertood me. i do a lot of gramatical mistake and never re read what i wrote..... i wrote to all who use the BTM system and have read the thread about on FF. i was out of trade and dont read FF since 1 month for vacation with my wife... and at my return (3 days ago) i just read this amazing history with hacker and BTM ... lol ... i m really thinking he is a scammer when i read the tread about scammer BTM showing a lot of mistake...
- Good to see u back Zed, because of what BTM and his clone accounts (88az... and maybe evernewtron) did, i personally not really trust you, please prove that im wrong.
- Machenas already post indis without expiration date (not so sure) and your dash works normally.
Here: https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=12594022#post12594022
- We are looking for coder to code an EA with both new and old indi, new and old rule. But in case u have already coded BTM dash, i think u will prefer code old system first
Your dash already have a simple EA function and we want this EA can follow some BTM 's rules and tips:
+ entry: beside C arrow and follow TMA trend, TP1 inside TMA band
+ SL: SL1 plus (x) pips, x can be changed
+ TP: open 2 order at the same time, with different lots base on % acc or fixed money. Order 1 with TP1, order 2 with TP2 and trailling SL equal to TP1
- Hope I loud and clear, i know aaven and steve already slept now, can u two fix me if im wrong or miss something
  • #299
  • Nov 1, 2019 11:30pm Nov 1, 2019 11:30pm
Quoting trieuVhh
{quote} - Good to see u back Zed, because of what BTM and his clone accounts (88az... and maybe evernewtron) did, i personally not really trust you, please prove that im wrong. - Machenas already post indis without expiration date (not so sure) and your dash works normally. Here: https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=12594022#post12594022 - We are looking for coder to code an EA with both new and old indi, new and old rule. But in case u have already coded BTM dash, i think u will prefer code old system first Your dash already...
I am Chris not Steve haha
  • #300
  • Nov 1, 2019 11:36pm Nov 1, 2019 11:36pm
Hey Zed.fr

Welcome aboard.

As I was reading your post I was wondering how sweet it would be (seeing that you have BTMs trust) if you could quiz him about the arrow indicator...lol

I would love it if you would make an EA, aaven found that the xsupertrend posted below matches the arrow indicator pretty acurately.

Here are the rules we came up with.

Chris
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File Type: ex4 xSuperTrend - candles (mtf).ex4   21 KB | 369 downloads

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File Type: docx Trading Rules-Base Line Version.docx   186 KB | 429 downloads


Here are the new indicators
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File Type: mq4 Arrow.mq4   5 KB | 448 downloads

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File Type: mq4 G.mq4   27 KB | 384 downloads

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File Type: mq4 TMA nrp + bands + alerts_mtf.mq4   9 KB | 389 downloads

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File Type: mq4 TMA+CG mladen.mq4   10 KB | 377 downloads


Her are new non expiry indicators from BTM posted by Mapseam

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File Type: ex4 A.ex4   14 KB | 445 downloads

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File Type: ex4 B.ex4   30 KB | 432 downloads

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File Type: ex4 C.ex4   12 KB | 423 downloads

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File Type: ex4 D.ex4   28 KB | 425 downloads

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