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  • #21
  • Oct 26, 2019 10:53pm Oct 26, 2019 10:53pm
Quoting Evernewtron
I believe he already put an expiry date on the indicator and set to the date next week. Within this, i think he already well plan everything since the first place.
you maybe right. lets see it untill next week its supposed to be the day he will reveal his reversal strategy. My question is why do these dramas? why not just become commercial member and sell it. If its a good indicator, people doesnt care they have to buy if they want.
  • #22
  • Oct 26, 2019 11:36pm Oct 26, 2019 11:36pm
Quoting Evernewtron
When you're testing the bands, it's very unreliable if you do it manually with the default bands. But i can find the indicator named "TMA nrp + bands + alerts mtf" that coded by mladen and doesn't repaint (attached). Also for those who don't have, i attach the indicator that i collect and adjust to mimic the result of BTM's indicator. But, the problem for me right now is the arrow indicator. I know that the arrow indicator is based on a default MACD on MT4 with parameter (8,21,9). With this get so many other signal than the BTM's arrow....
👍👏👏👏good jobFor filtering the arrow indicator, maybe it is done by Daily/hourely pivot points
  • #23
  • Oct 27, 2019 5:15am Oct 27, 2019 5:15am
One of the conditions for the Arrow Indicator is a simple crossing of the EMA 10 and EMA 20. The other conditions I did not find out.
  • #24
  • Oct 27, 2019 6:17am Oct 27, 2019 6:17am
Quoting mario777
{quote} you maybe right. lets see it untill next week its supposed to be the day he will reveal his reversal strategy. My question is why do these dramas? why not just become commercial member and sell it. If its a good indicator, people doesnt care they have to buy if they want.
because all the threads in the commercial sections are garbage. He knows he won't get as much publicity if he gets posted as a commerical member at the beginning.

So he planned this from the start and named his indicators a, b, c, d with expiry date. Saw this way coming the moment he started the thread.

Felt pity for those who wasted their time and energy testing and hoping to see the light, but in the end, it's just another thread to sell you stuff.
  • #25
  • Oct 27, 2019 10:36am Oct 27, 2019 10:36am
he created a good system by public indicators.we know all those indicators.at least he gave us a good idea for trading with rules he setup.
im not against him,because he didnt wast my time or hurt me.he gave me a good system that i can trade now.all indicators are out there.
it is my decision to buy his system or not.he didnt force anyone to use my system or common buy my system.he has right to sell it or discounting it.
as long as he didnt hurt me or stole my money,im appreciate him to introduce me such a great system.
go creat this system or make it better instead of posting here he is scam or not.beeing scam doesnt make money for you neither reduce your money.
  • #26
  • Oct 27, 2019 11:13am Oct 27, 2019 11:13am
I would like to see this thread become a trading thread...by which I mean we should post the indicators to build our own BTM system.

I see some of you have some ideas about indicators that can reproduce the system put forth by BTM.

I was highly intrigued by the system and it seemed that it was profitable...so why not forge ahead and see if we can build on his ideas.

To be honest I am a little pissed off at how he manipulated us all, it reminds me of ForexCyborg last year, he did exactly the same thing. It's a dick move and should not be tolerated. I say we claim it as our own and own it!!!

aaven, what do you think?

We could always move to a trading thread but I thought for now we are all in the same place.

Chris
  • #27
  • Oct 27, 2019 11:28am Oct 27, 2019 11:28am
Quoting cfudge
I would like to see this thread become a trading thread...by which I mean we should post the indicators to build our own BTM system. I see some of you have some ideas about indicators that can reproduce the system put forth by BTM. I was highly intrigued by the system and it seemed that it was profitable...so why not forge ahead and see if we can build on his ideas. To be honest I am a little pissed off at how he manipulated us all, it reminds me of ForexCyborg last year, he did exactly the same thing. It's a dick move and should not be tolerated....
Great Idea Chris... Not letting an obstacle come in the way... I am sure with people chipping in, we can figure the system out...
  • #28
  • Oct 27, 2019 11:36am Oct 27, 2019 11:36am
In post number 52, I laid out almost all the indicators from the system
After that, BTM blocked me.
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=12423590#post12423590
"Money makes Money"
  • #29
  • Oct 27, 2019 12:34pm Oct 27, 2019 12:34pm
Quoting cfudge
I would like to see this thread become a trading thread...by which I mean we should post the indicators to build our own BTM system. I see some of you have some ideas about indicators that can reproduce the system put forth by BTM. I was highly intrigued by the system and it seemed that it was profitable...so why not forge ahead and see if we can build on his ideas. To be honest I am a little pissed off at how he manipulated us all, it reminds me of ForexCyborg last year, he did exactly the same thing. It's a dick move and should not be tolerated....
I like the idea to if that counts haha!
  • #30
  • Oct 27, 2019 12:44pm Oct 27, 2019 12:44pm
So did a little research on the TMA nrp Indi

From the pic below it looks like the Arrow indi is pretty much in line with mladen Indicator 80% ish - So when the buy signal appears on the TMA do does the arrow occasionally. It looks like when it is in a downtrend thats when the sell arrows would appear and 1 or 2 buy signs! same as if it was an uptrend to!

Sorry my Circles on the chart are not great!

Many thanks to all members
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  • #31
  • Oct 27, 2019 1:04pm Oct 27, 2019 1:04pm
Do you know where can I find each topic to every indicator?
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  • #32
  • Oct 27, 2019 1:32pm Oct 27, 2019 1:32pm
Quoting juanmahache
Do you know where can I find each topic to every indicator? {image}
Everyone on the thread is trying to identify the indicators used for the BTM system. The indicators in the link given by Syndicat are available on forexfactory.

There are 3 sections to the BTM System:

1. Trend Identification:

TMA+CG-MTF---> I believe this is Triangular Moving Average+Center of Gravity coded by Mladen...

2. Pivots:

These are the Base Line-Take Profit and Stop Loss used in the BTM system... The ones given by Syndicat seem to be matching with the BTM system

3. Arrow for entry:

This looks to be the missing puzzle, but so far from what we have seen- This indicator should be also available some where on FF...

Once the market opens- i will be randomly checking systems that have arrows to see if it aligns with BTM system...

TMA+CG and Pivots- Use those names in the Forex Factory/Google to find the workings...

Thanks
  • #33
  • Oct 27, 2019 1:33pm Oct 27, 2019 1:33pm
Quoting syndicat
In post number 52, I laid out almost all the indicators from the system After that, BTM blocked me. https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=12423590#post12423590
Great Job Syndicat...
  • #34
  • Oct 27, 2019 1:44pm Oct 27, 2019 1:44pm
HAHA Syndicat called it on post 46...LOL

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  • #35
  • Oct 27, 2019 2:09pm Oct 27, 2019 2:09pm
Quoting 5aztv88
he created a good system by public indicators.we know all those indicators.at least he gave us a good idea for trading with rules he setup. im not against him,because he didnt wast my time or hurt me.he gave me a good system that i can trade now.all indicators are out there. it is my decision to buy his system or not.he didnt force anyone to use my system or common buy my system.he has right to sell it or discounting it. as long as he didnt hurt me or stole my money,im appreciate him to introduce me such a great system. go creat this system or make...
5aztv88,

The general opinion is BTM gave a potentially good system... Even at the end of the thread/few days back, if he said:

"Hey guys-i think my system is good- i would like to commercialize it- i am not giving it out for free any more- this is the price $xxx"

People would have respected that and very few would have any problem...

instead, he faked a story about being hacked-his life being danger- fabricating police report- all for what? to say the same thing, that the price is $xxx-

the question is not about stealing money or hurting you- you are dealing with a person who intentionally wasted hundreds of hours of people's time...

also, knowing what he has done- what is the guarantee that even after you paid for his system-that he won't disable the indicators after few months and demand money again?

Thanks
  • #36
  • Oct 27, 2019 3:28pm Oct 27, 2019 3:28pm
Quoting aaven
{quote} 5aztv88, The general opinion is BTM gave a potentially good system... Even at the end of the thread/few days back, if he said: "Hey guys-i think my system is good- i would like to commercialize it- i am not giving it out for free any more- this is the price $xxx" People would have respected that and very few would have any problem... instead, he faked a story about being hacked-his life being danger- fabricating police report- all for what? to say the same thing, that the price is $xxx- the question is not about stealing money or hurting...
i agree
i just say lets see the half full of glass .we know a good system.lets creat it and lets other things go.the important is the money we can make with btm system.
i will check signal arrow indicators in my indicators folder tomorrow.
i think the important puzzle is his signal arrows.its very unique.lets find some things like his signal indicator
  • #37
  • Oct 27, 2019 5:20pm Oct 27, 2019 5:20pm
Yea, i post Syndicate's indicator on page 1. But so far i tried the combination of EMA crossover and MACD, but still missing some arrow compare to BTM's Arrow Indicator...
  • #38
  • Oct 27, 2019 5:35pm Oct 27, 2019 5:35pm
What about the Support and resistance plotter indicator? the white, red, and green lines



btw really good job so far guys
  • #39
  • Oct 27, 2019 6:16pm Oct 27, 2019 6:16pm
@AleksanderBr You can check it on my post (page 1), it's the G indicator or FXI Pivot
  • #40
  • Oct 27, 2019 6:57pm Oct 27, 2019 6:57pm
Tma cg 4g and config to mimic D indicator BTM
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