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  • #98,601
  • Oct 23, 2019 3:12am Oct 23, 2019 3:12am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} DE30 Oct 23 learn basic simple price action and apply that to Post#647 ... then practice, practice, practice till you have mastered the 5-Method which then leads to what the OP himself said: "you can trade the 5-Method without any TDI..." London open nice and the TDI green angle 1-2 as I can see in the price action.... as soon as the M30 closed. it is all about Price Action, Price Action, Price Action... that is leading edge trading. {image}
trading is visual... the OP was a visual trader.

trading is not rocket science and does not require a scientist to trade.

nobody predicts the TDI green angle.

just pay attention to the previous candle Open price and the current candle Close and you will see the TDI green line angle, slope or just plain the momentum difference of the previous candle Open and the current candle close in this example above.... note, it is a reversal price action.

you look at the M30 of the previous H4 period and the current M30 H4 period , it is the same.

the same for H1.

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  • #98,602
  • Oct 23, 2019 3:19am Oct 23, 2019 3:19am
DE30 Week 43 Oct 23

I like what I see now ... another take profit should it hit 12792 again...

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  • #98,603
  • Oct 23, 2019 3:27am Oct 23, 2019 3:27am
Quoting DrDave
{quote} I haven't seen any study that presents the data for this Vline claim. Maybe you have your personal data using this method that you will share so we can do an analysis and determine the validity of your claim?

Yes, I too would like to see the supporting data to verify this claim. A lot of people make all sorts of claims, but when it comes time to back up those claims, they often ignore the simple request for supporting data. However, I'm sure that Emmanuel has some in depth analysis to support his claim......right, Emmanuel?
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  • #98,604
  • Oct 23, 2019 3:29am Oct 23, 2019 3:29am
Quoting eelfranz
Oh man... what a trade.... easy money... TDI starts at 5pm angle and tweeks to 5:45pm angle.... who caught this? {image}

Example trading is visual the way Big E did it in the past.

He simply look at the TDI green line with reference to the clock face ... starts at 5pm and when the green line changes it angle...

but someone did an indicator which calculate the change in angle.

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  • #98,605
  • Oct 23, 2019 3:50am Oct 23, 2019 3:50am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} Yes, I too would like to see the supporting data to verify this claim. A lot of people make all sorts of claims, but when it comes time to back up those claims, they often ignore the simple request for supporting data. However, I'm sure that Emmanuel has some in depth analysis to support his claim......right, Emmanuel?
realjumper wrote:

However, I'm sure that Emmanuel has some in depth analysis to support his claim......right, Emmanuel?

do you all want to see back-testing data or live trades data?
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  • #98,606
  • Oct 23, 2019 3:53am Oct 23, 2019 3:53am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} realjumper wrote: However, I'm sure that Emmanuel has some in depth analysis to support his claim......right, Emmanuel? do you all want to see back-testing data or live trades data?
The data set from live trading of the VLine method that you mentioned. The full data set, not just cherry-picked examples. Also, you need to include the complete trade parameters. Otherwise, a proper analysis cannot be conducted.
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  • #98,607
  • Oct 23, 2019 3:59am Oct 23, 2019 3:59am
Quoting DrDave
{quote} The data set from live trading of the VLine method that you mentioned. The full data set, not just cherry-picked examples. Also, you need to include the complete trade parameters. Otherwise, a proper analysis cannot be conducted.


let be clear about the subject matter.

it is Tekkies' M15H1 VLine method and not mine.

what do you define as cherry-pick? Tekkies often mentioned he uses Post#647 to pick his trades.

how long a test period going forward for data collection do you suggest?
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  • #98,608
  • Oct 23, 2019 4:02am Oct 23, 2019 4:02am
Quoting emmanuel7788
do you all want to see back-testing data or live trades data?

You said, and I quote: " No need any M15H1 VLine gimmicks nonsense which has been proven to lose money month after month."

A link to the study which offers this proof would be sufficient, thank you.

Back testing is nonsense, as I know you know.
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  • #98,609
  • Oct 23, 2019 4:56am Oct 23, 2019 4:56am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} Tekkies of course Follow TDI... which TDI version? so many TDI version since 2008 till 2011, Make It Simple, get rid of all except Big E posted version in Post#25 and follow his trading rules in this thread. No need any M15H1 VLine gimmicks nonsense which has been proven to lose money month after month. M15 ... many TDI crosses , which TDI cross is the 'right' one to trade? in hindsight,...
- Which post prove that M15H1 did lose money month after month?
----
which TDI cross is the 'right' one to trade?
Here you go: Post 97,098
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- Between 12 / 1 > Best signal to enter a buy trade. (Market will be very volatility or in a strong up trend.)
- Between 1 / 2 > Good signal to enter a buy trade. (Normal everyday market candles in a slow up trend.)
- Between 2 / 4 > Do not enter any trade. (Market in consolidation or ranging.)
- Between 4 / 5 > Good signals to enter a sell trade. (Normal everyday market candles in a slow down trend.)
- Between 5 / 6 > Best signals to enter a sell trade. (Market will be very volatility or in a strong down trend.)
  • #98,610
  • Oct 23, 2019 5:13am Oct 23, 2019 5:13am
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} - Which post prove that M15H1 did lose money month after month? ---- which TDI cross is the 'right' one to trade? Here you go: Post 97,098 {image} - Between 12 / 1 > Best signal to enter a buy trade. (Market will be very volatility or in a strong up trend.) - Between 1 / 2 > Good signal to enter a buy trade. (Normal everyday market candles in a slow up trend.) - Between 2 / 4 > Do not enter any trade. (Market in consolidation or ranging.) - Between 4 / 5 > Good...

Tekkies

you are talking crap again and again.

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which TDI cross is the 'right' one to trade?
your cherry picked ones and post only winning trades to impress newbies.
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just be patient, ... very very patient...

and we shall see how your M15H1 VLine nonsense will trade in realtime live market.

by now IF you have been profitable which you are not... you would have shown your monthly results using your TDI RSI lines. You will make same lame excuses why you would not post your trading results. See pic below,

But be patient, the live forward tests using your TDI RSI lines will show this thread followers what that nonsense is all about and you are not trading TMS 5-Method as the OP has layed out.

You can lie to the newbies reading this thread selling them snake oil. But you can't fool all those who are knowledgeable and experienced with the Traders Dynamic Index.

Here is your post TDI RSI Lines: Post#29,841
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...0#post12253610

and your back-testing nonsense youtube link here:
Post#98345
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...0#post12253610


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Enjoy the days , weeks, months ahead .... Follow TDI blindly.
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  • #98,611
  • Oct 23, 2019 5:17am Oct 23, 2019 5:17am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} You said, and I quote: " No need any M15H1 VLine gimmicks nonsense which has been proven to lose money month after month." A link to the study which offers this proof would be sufficient, thank you. Back testing is nonsense, as I know you know.

Yes, RJ

we agree on one thing.

Back-testing is nonsense.
Watch that youtube video Tekkies posted recently. With your trading experience, you should have an opinion about what he showed in his youtube recording.

please wait for the forward test live market trading and we all can see live how Tekkies' TDI RSI Line indicator will trade in realtime live market.
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #98,612
  • Oct 23, 2019 5:23am Oct 23, 2019 5:23am
Quoting emmanuel7788
DE30 Week 43 Oct 23 I like what I see now ... another take profit should it hit 12792 again... {image}

DE30 Oct 23

while we are having fun talking about Tekkies TDI RSI Vlines nonsense,

DE30 hit 12792 again for the second time this week.

12805 and 12887 is what some traders believe is a supply zone... we shall soon see ...

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  • #98,613
  • Oct 23, 2019 5:28am Oct 23, 2019 5:28am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} Yes, RJ we agree on one thing. Back-testing is nonsense. Watch that youtube video Tekkies posted recently. With your trading experience, you should have an opinion about what he showed in his youtube recording. please wait for the forward test live market trading and we all can see live how Tekkies' TDI RSI Line indicator will trade in realtime live market.
We have the answer to the original question: THERE IS NO SUPPORTING DATA FOR THE CLAIM!
Yet another dose of balderdash.

Quoting emmanuel7788
you can't fool all those who are knowledgeable and experienced
To free Gazans of Hamas, use whatever it takes.
  • #98,614
  • Oct 23, 2019 5:32am Oct 23, 2019 5:32am
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} - Which post prove that M15H1 did lose money month after month? ---- which TDI cross is the 'right' one to trade? Here you go: Post 97,098 {image} - Between 12 / 1 > Best signal to enter a buy trade. (Market will be very volatility or in a strong up trend.) - Between 1 / 2 > Good signal to enter a buy trade. (Normal everyday market candles in a slow up trend.) - Between 2 / 4 > Do not enter any trade. (Market in consolidation or ranging.) - Between 4 / 5 > Good...

Tekkies

have you found the two posts where the OP used different TDI versions?

here below the same two charts which he posted on the same day and just few minutes between posts.

pay attention to the details on the first chart? do you see the RSI(3) on chart
make a guess what system uses RSI(3).
why not go to babypips forum during that same date period and learn which system uses and still using RSI(3).



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  • #98,615
  • Oct 23, 2019 5:36am Oct 23, 2019 5:36am
Quoting emmanuel7788
please wait for the forward test live market trading and we all can see live how Tekkies' TDI RSI Line indicator will trade in realtime live market.

No, no, I reiterate, you said: " No need any M15H1 VLine gimmicks nonsense which ***has been proven*** to lose money month after month."

"...has been proven"......this is past tense. As in 'it has already been done'

So be a good chap and supply a link that offers this proof so that we can study it.

Thank you
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  • #98,616
  • Oct 23, 2019 5:36am Oct 23, 2019 5:36am
Quoting emmanuel7788
... IF you have been profitable which you are not...
The unsubstantiated claims continue.
Credibility dropping rapidly...

How many of the "facts" already presented are actually nothing more than speculation, supposition, or simply guesses?
To free Gazans of Hamas, use whatever it takes.
  • #98,617
  • Oct 23, 2019 5:40am Oct 23, 2019 5:40am
Quoting DrDave
{quote} We have the answer to the original question: THERE IS NO SUPPORTING DATA FOR THE CLAIM! Yet another dose of balderdash. {quote}
don't tell us you really believe Tekkies M15H1 Vline trading is profitable. DrDave

we just agreed back-testing data is nonsense. also back dated data with repainting indicator is useless.
if you want to see live forward testing in realtime markets, then be patient.

you can download that Tekkies TMS RSI Line indicator and place that on two charts - one M15 and another on H1, observe those charts every 15 minutes and you will learn something about his coding of his M15H1 vertical lines.

you still have not answer this:
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let be clear about the subject matter.

it is Tekkies' M15H1 VLine method and not mine.

what do you define as cherry-pick? Tekkies often mentioned he uses Post#647 to pick his trades.

how long a test period going forward for data collection do you suggest?

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Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #98,618
  • Oct 23, 2019 5:42am Oct 23, 2019 5:42am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} No, no, I reiterate, you said: " No need any M15H1 VLine gimmicks nonsense which ***has been proven*** to lose money month after month." "...has been proven"......this is past tense. As in 'it has already been done' So be a good chap and supply a link that offers this proof so that we can study it. Thank you

like I said, be patient and we shall see how that Tekkies TMS RSI Vline will trade in realtime live market going forward.
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #98,619
  • Oct 23, 2019 5:42am Oct 23, 2019 5:42am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} Tekkies you are talking crap again and again. ---------------------------------------- which TDI cross is the 'right' one to trade? your cherry picked ones and post only winning trades to impress newbies. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- just be patient, ... very very patient... and we shall see how your M15H1 VLine nonsense will trade in realtime live market. by now IF you have been profitable which you are not... you would have shown your monthly results using your TDI RSI lines....
You have not answered the question Emmanuel.
- Which post prove that M15H1 did lose money month after month?
-----
You right, I won't show my trading results or Trade Explorer.
The reasons are simple:
- M15H1 must prove it self.
- Not insecure about M15H1 to post monthly results trying to convince reader's that M15H1 does work.
- Don't need the admiration of members: "Tekkies know how to trade". (That is more up your alley)
- Post#7577......Suck it up, follow the simple rules.................
  • #98,620
  • Oct 23, 2019 5:43am Oct 23, 2019 5:43am
[quote=realjumper;12577788]{quote} "...has been proven"....../quote]

Actually, the tense you quote is called Present Perfect!
As you're so particular about details - there's one for you:

The present perfect is formed from the present tense of the verb have and the past participle
of a verb.
We use the present perfect:

  1. for something that started in the past and continues in the present:

They've been marriedfor nearly fifty years.
She has lived in Liverpool all her life.

  1. when we are talking about our experience up to the present:

I've seen that film before.
I've played the guitar ever since I was a teenager.
He has written three books and he is working on another one.

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