has anyone EVER seen a successful trader/trading system?

learn learn and learn and make your own strategy.its possible to gain from trading.everyone gets an edge early or later on.

This just confirm me that i'm right about your face.not a nice person so full of him self.go scroll up i already did post one.yeah right you'll say less than 2 years but so what!and that's i post not exactly for you.just replying one guy showing even from -50% you can make it if you have the right set of mind.
I have another with more smooth but forget it.no use giving away for the internet people.you get nothing in return other than insult
BTW just quit already if you believe it's impossible

That is true but i did mention when you start trying to make it fix.there you will find problem.and MA just as example and i don't trade MA just have it for sense of direction and i just want to punctuate the opportunist.I have no knowledge about global variable, what i'm trying to show is a simple merchant skill/the fish thing.when you buy something you need to make sure you can sell them.is the price reasonable?are there going to be a buyer?and how much are they willing to pay? put that in a chart.the first 2 as support resistant and the 3rd as how many pip(s) it going to bounce.an opportunist will see there is money to be made.but him, he is busy calculating on average how many pip(s) it bounce or break so he can make it fix.

No its not really, price is either positive or negative. On Friday, I sat trading AUDNZD for around three hours. I sold every positive rise and brought every negative fall in a grid formation over this period without a single loss. That was about 28 trades over that period on the M1 chart for around 90 Pips.
Normally it moves away and the final basket may become a loss but this didn't occur on Friday. If you understand price mechanics and how price is coded to only swing from a neutral zone within the centre of the chart, you have a Bias to trade from always.
This allows me to start trading any chart at any time without fear of losing. That does not mean I win every trade, it just means I win every trading session but cop a few losses.

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while markets keep always changing...

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Markets never change. Ever. The price algorithm is doing the very same thing since 2008. That is how far we went back in back testing. Just to find there is absolutely no difference in between the 28 forex pairs, gold, oil and de30 we did run the tests at.

What appears to the eye as a change, is the slow or the fast gearing, the pairs do enter at different periods of time.

One major evidence you can use agains my statement is the chart’s candles. Unfortunately, within a single candle a lot took place inside it. The candle can’t properly display it. The bigger the candle’s time frame, the worst it gets in that matter.

There is no formula that can beat up the core’s formula they are using. Not in a direct or at a frontal clash. In any direct/frontal clash, their formula will always win. It will happen so, till our Sun dies. In a long run, their formula is absolutely unbeatable. These guys are so smart. They never stop to amaze me.

But, what can’t pass in a direct fight, can slip away through the gate keepers via other means. Windows, roofs, cracks.

This game will become impossible to play, if they have to equally clean up all zones. And they know it. That is why they stay focused on the middle zones mostly, where most orders are, rather than on other places...

Thanks for the likes, btw.

Joseph, I doubt very much you will get a clear answer here from the "successful" the only reason is, no one who has spent such a long time developing their knowledge and skill to become successful will give it up in a heartbeat, explanation, proof, why would they do this, however the successful do emerge, willing to show you the way but with a cost, not to mention a few, but put money in the equation and there you will get a better answer.
The random lines on a chart, bad example really,(not being anti here) but the phrase, "a stopped clock is right twice a day" the lines will run through somewhere, after all, the space is limited to the scale on where the price has been, now as to "when" price meets them is another thing, on a yearly chart, price may never go there again, D
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I think a thread like, "How can we complicate the simple" would go down a treat, my head is spinning with some of the intricate replies ( no offence,only tongue and cheek before anyone has a go )

with my more then 15years experience in this field, I can say only very few system/strategy works. Forex needs to study all 9tfs and your system should cover. Use excel & transfer indicator data and get result.

So, your approach to trading, making a buy/sell decision, is equivalent to flipping a coin? After 3 years, that's the best you've got? Or if the next tick goes against your entry, that's proof of randomness? Do you believe that last Friday's PA on GBP pairs was the result of traders' randomly picking bid or ask numbers?

What do you mean by basket? Does it mean you trade a basket of different currency-pairs?

Your ignorance is a double one!

First: That example I gave there, was to illustrate the definition of randomness. I didn't compare anything.

Second: I know fundamental concepts much better than you might think. But I got a question from you:

If GBP moves were so obvious to you why didn't you buy 10 lots to make a big fat money in one day?

Because you were NOT sure. Even if we knew all the details and secrete information about an event, we still cannot be sure about, what we call, market REACTION.

I've seen a lot of instances where the market has not given a shit about a central banks craps on interest hike and alike.

So here's the thing: Although we know what factors actually move markets (capital flow, arbitrage, ...), but since we don't know IF market will actually REACT to that event THIS TIME, and HOW MUCH that reaction (IF ANY) is gonna move the market, we can safely assume that it is, to a good extent, RANDOM (MAYBE it moves the market, MAYBE it moves the market only 50 pips, MAYBE 500 pips, MAYBE MAYBE MAYBE!)

Oh my god, I cannot believe it! Why am I wasting my time here?

Oh my God!

Guys, heads up! Finally we seem to have something here. Look at that growth curve

That's what I'm taking about...

Fair playD
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M, EA or manually,D

Well done, knowing what I know that's very hard work,D

So true.

Well done mate. Good stuff.

First, you have used the coin flip example and corresponding charting of results as presenting the same rests as forex market action. This is your view and your example. Not mine. You've made this false equivalence, not me. Therefore, you see them as the same, or at least similar.
Second, based on your post above, you dont know or understand fundamental. If you did, you would see the market as you do. If the market doesn't react to a fundamental announcement in the way you expected, it must be randomness. It never occurred to you that you just lack a basic understanding of economics and finance. You should check that narcissistic attribute of your personality at the door before you start trading. Or maybe study how the professional market works...not professional traders...the market.
Third, every trader I work with knew what the market would do if and when the news hit that a Brexit deal was being reached. The market did exactly what we expected it would do, and moved exactly where we thought it would move. If you hadn't thought through these possibilites and prepared your TA in advance, then it all is just a big fucking mystery to loads like you. And like every other complaining jilted loser on FF, you have not done any work this weekend to plan what you'll do next, based on what might happen next week. I mean, why should you? It's all random and it's not fair!
I cant believe it! Why am I wasting my time!

That's it Joseph, end of the thread, we've seen it nowD

Yes, I agree.

Ok guys, game's over. Like detector said, this is the last stop. We saw something real and now we know how a real successful trading results look like. It's nothing like 1500% a year, it's nothing like "get rich quick". Sorry for disappointing you, but so far this is the only thing we've got here.

If you know something better (but real + for at least 3 years) please share with us. Otherwise PLEASE stop talking philosophy, PLEASE stop calling me names and comment on my look and other irrelevant bullshit PLEASE stop sending me PMs trying to sell me magical EAs...

Thank everyone who shared their stories and knowledge.

Where is your proof of randomness?

I haven't seen any evidence of phd level thinking so far. No calculations, just pure complaining. IF you were a real phd, you could have downloaded historical data and calculated the degree of randomness.

In 1 min I googled and found an article where they found evidence of non-randomness in the forex market.

You think finance is a hard science like physics with the same level of laws, this is apparent from your writing.

Hi Josephcom

No, same currency. I trade with a expectation that price will move in my favor to allow me to take a profit. If price moves in the wrong direction, I add additional trades to raise my average price up to a level where the expectation of a return to a profit level for me will be no less than 90%. All traders need to specialise if they want to be profitable in this game.
My specialisation is studying random moves away from the centre of the chart that are not consistent with a real move. I use a few tools to confirm the move away is very likely a false move which allows me to build a position with up to 4 trades against this move. Easy money basically.
So I am reading the size, shape, speed of any move to establish whether its manipulation. I never look at patterns or candles types like Bullish Engulfing Candles or Pinbars, that is a fools game. I now know the Algo's code pretty well now and can normally see a fake move very quickly.

Hey guys here is an example on how you need to specialise to be successful in the gambling (Investing) world.
Read this story about another gambler (Investor).


Trading and Betting the Horses
While some people question how easy it is to make a consistent living TRADING, how about making a consistent, comfortable living betting on horse races? Here is a story about Ernest Dahlman – someone who has experienced amazing success at betting on horses for the past 35 years. Some of the principles that have contributed to E.D.’s success are the very same applied by top, professional traders. The following includes excerpts from a June 3, 2001 article titled THE WIZARD OF ODDS, published by the New York Times and written by William Grimes. We recommend that before you read our story you read the original article in its entirety. It is necessary to register first on the NY times website. They will have the article freely available only until June 10.
This Wizard of Odds, “Ernest Dahlman, may be the world’s most successful horse bettor. The reason he’s so good is that he doesn’t gamble.” But, according the article, “in a busy year, Dahlman might bet as much as $18 million.” Let’s look at some of the main principles that contribute to Dahlman’s success and see how they are transferable to trading.

1. Dahlman narrows his playing field. He specializes primarily “with races at tracks in New York and California” where he perceives himself to have a larger edge. This way, he can become familiar with the subtle nuances such as local trainers (in whose hands a horse can experience a “religious conversion”) and track conditions. A trader will do best to concentrate on a select “stable” of markets and learn their individual personalities, than to jump into markets or individual stocks that have not been thoroughly researched.
2. Dahlman specializes in a very specific type of bet – the exacta, his “bread and butter.” A trader will do best if he specializes in just one style or pattern or trading methodology. Know the risk/reward characteristics of your individual technique. Dahlman chooses what would at first glance appear to be a high risk technique, but one which offers good rewards.
3. Dahlman pays more money to minimize his risk. He hedges his bet by creating a box (“twice as expensive as a straight exacta” but which “lets Dahlman have things both ways”). Successful top traders are far more interested in strategies by which to minimize risk than those that go for the big gains. Stops, protective options, or spread strategies are just some of the ways to minimize risk.
4. Be a “plodder,” a nickel and dimer. “On average, (Dahlman) says, he earns 3 or 4 percent on his investment.” He never bets serious money on long odds. Stick with the high probability setups. Don’t try to hit home runs. “The point is, there’s no such thing as a sure thing. Favorites win only a third of the time, an immutable racing statistic. Even successful bettors tear up more tickets than they cash. The trick is to cash enough tickets, at the right odds, to offset the losses and turn a profit. That’s where addition and subtraction come in.”
5. Know the seasonalities of your game. “‘Winter is my favorite time of year,’ he said cheerfully. ‘It’s more predictable. The horses tend to be older, and you know what they’re going to do. And out in Northern California it rains, and you get a lot of grass races switched to the main track, resulting in complete mismatches.'” If you are a grain trader, there are distinct times of year when volatility increases. If you trade options, there has historically been a strong tendency for volatility to contract going into the summer – good if you are a short premium player, bad if your game favors a momentum style. Do you do best at the beginning of the year or the end of the year? Know the cycles in both your game and yourself.
6. Do your daily homework. “Most horseplayers love a contentious 12-horse race with the promise of three-figure exactas and monster trifectas. Not Dahlman. ‘Anyone who knows anything about gambling will tell you I’m not a great gambler,’ he says. ‘What I’m good at is arithmetic. I can add and subtract.'” “Like many other professional horseplayers, Dahlman relies in part on the work of others. The Daily Racing Form gives him a compressed description of the last dozen races run by each horse entered in a race. That merits a quick glance. The more serious numbers come from ‘the sheet'” … which analyze and quantify… “a variety of factors, ranging from track resiliency to wind direction to the distance actually traveled by each horse.” He considers his detailed record keeping to be his biggest edge. What type of detailed record keeping do you maintain with your own trading?
7. Specialize, Specialize, Specialize! Who would have ever thought of specializing in Dahlman’s “overriding preoccupation, horseshoes? Years ago, Dahlman began noticing something funny about horses equipped with mud calks, cleats that some trainers use for extra traction when rain turns dirt into mud. Dahlman noted that even when rain failed to materialize, a lot of horses seemed to improve several lengths when wearing mud calks for the first time” It’s also another “reason he loves Golden Gate Fields, near San Francisco. It rains a lot there, so plenty of mediocre-seeming horses are switching to mud calks for the first time and then sneaking into exactas at good prices. A second reason for loving Golden Gate is that the track posts very detailed shoe information before each race.” Find your niche!
8. Believe in your own game and don’t listen to anyone else! Although “Dahlman accepts as highly accurate … the raw speed numbers,” he rejects “other assumptions in the sheets.” Others dismiss Dahlman’s horseshoe theory. It does not matter who thinks your style is right or wrong … all that matters is that you believe in it yourself and follow it consistently.
9. Keep your losses at the sleeping level. In the best quote from the article, “If I keep my losses at $7,000, I can sleep easily,” Dahlman says. “I can get that back in one race.” Your sleeping level may be different from anyone else’s.

Here is a person who has managed to keep a balanced life and raise 6 children while still maintaining his passion for the horse racing. As the game changed, from trotters to thoroughbreds, he was able to adapt with the times. We have seen many games come and go in the markets, from equity options arbitrage to the disappearance of SOES traders. We have seen markets change from a momentum environment to a trading-range game. A trader must specialize in one thing yet be ready to recognize when it is time to learn a brand new game. Recognize that Dahlman built up a lifetime of racing knowledge. He relies on that experience to interpret the incredible amount of information he gathers. For newer traders just learning to make their way in this business, recognize that, ultimately, experience is the best teacher. Every day that you trade, you gain experience. Keep the discipline, keep the faith. To repeat one last quote: “It’s an art with just enough science to make it possible for a very tiny percentage of bettors to take money away from the herd of less disciplined bettors.”
Trading? or betting the horses?

Joseph, it's been a very interesting thread and well done for opening it, you know my comment was tongue and cheek, I would draw the line on poking fun at anyone though, not fair, the thread revealed one person willing to put up what you asked and fair play as I commented, it speaks volumes on a few parts in FF, either one person is making all the money, no one is making any, or, who is doing ok, want's to stay anonymous and I would plug the last one, Mich is going to be inundated with PM's with the subject line, "please can you..." if we could read the market the way we can read people, we would be millionaires, cheers D
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Mich,the first PM will be from meD