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  • #261
  • Sep 15, 2019 8:21am Sep 15, 2019 8:21am
Quoting Profitgrowth
1. What do you think a Liquidity Gap is? Where there is a considerable distance between different liquidity pools. 2. Why do you think a Liquidity Gap should be filled? The traders trapped at the wrong end of the gap can recover some of the loss and provide liquidity for the price to be moved in the direction the smart money wanted to take it. 3. How do you know if a Liquidity Gap will cause a continuation or reversal? Depends which direction and distance the next liquidity pool is found. 4. How does sentiment play a role in the Liquidity Gap Trade?...
That is how I see it too, word by word pretty much.
  • #262
  • Sep 15, 2019 3:03pm Sep 15, 2019 3:03pm
I am waiting to get hands on sentiment tool, but I have got no updates
  • #263
  • Sep 15, 2019 3:12pm Sep 15, 2019 3:12pm
Quoting Kkptra
I am waiting to get hands on sentiment tool, but I have got no updates
You don't need to wait for anything, here's one of the many available to use. https://www.myfxbook.com/en/community/outlook
  • #264
  • Sep 15, 2019 3:15pm Sep 15, 2019 3:15pm
Quoting Profitgrowth
{quote} You don't need to wait for anything, here's one of the many available to use. https://www.myfxbook.com/en/community/outlook
Is there one that includes XAUUSD?
  • #265
  • Sep 15, 2019 3:17pm Sep 15, 2019 3:17pm
Quoting Mtinifx
{quote} Is there one that includes XAUUSD?
If you take a look at it you'll find it does.
  • #266
  • Sep 15, 2019 3:31pm Sep 15, 2019 3:31pm
Good Day Traders,

I've been working today on the Liquidity Gap Trade with Examples. It's coming along really good so those who took time out to participate - I will send the info to you when it's complete.

Here is the current Sentiment going into the week - pre-open.
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  • #267
  • Sep 15, 2019 9:01pm Sep 15, 2019 9:01pm
A few hours into the market - oh how quickly things can change for the retail sheep - sentiment from close on Friday to a few hours in today is.... different.

Let's see what this week holds and what trading opportunities are there for us take. We're stop hunting.

Also if you've been following along - I don't think we've had a losing trade yet.

Tracking Sentiment Correctly, understanding Market Structure, and knowing how to trade it is a very powerful combination!!
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  • #268
  • Sep 15, 2019 9:05pm Sep 15, 2019 9:05pm
P.S. To those who have been requesting a demo and have filled out the form at the bottom of our website - a FREE version of this tool will be available by the end of the week if everything goes as planned.

It's likely that those who took reasonable time to fill it out will gain access.
  • #269
  • Sep 15, 2019 9:07pm Sep 15, 2019 9:07pm
Great Thread Sentifx... thanks for the insights
  • #270
  • Sep 16, 2019 12:25am Sep 16, 2019 12:25am
Quoting Profitgrowth
1. What do you think a Liquidity Gap is? Where there is a considerable distance between different liquidity pools. 2. Why do you think a Liquidity Gap should be filled? The traders trapped at the wrong end of the gap can recover some of the loss and provide liquidity for the price to be moved in the direction the smart money wanted to take it. 3. How do you know if a Liquidity Gap will cause a continuation or reversal? Depends which direction and distance the next liquidity pool is found. 4. How does sentiment play a role in the Liquidity Gap Trade?...
This is basically my understanding too.
  • #271
  • Sep 16, 2019 2:50am Sep 16, 2019 2:50am
Hi SentiFX

1. What do you think a Liquidity Gap is? This is the area in the chart whereby there are no orders to be filled_Gap between entry orders and stop losses

2. Why do you think a Liquidity Gap should be filled? This must be filled because it is basically free money for the Market Makers

3. How do you know if a Liquidity Gap will cause a continuation or reversal? You do not know for sure but the way retail traders are positioned gives out a clue_Sentiment analysis

4. How does sentiment play a role in the Liquidity Gap Trade? The sentiment analysis gives out a clue of where the retail stops are situated on the chart

This is my 2cents ....
  • #272
  • Edited 4:33am Sep 16, 2019 4:21am | Edited 4:33am
I like the extreme retail sentiment. Like cup is full but not with atr but sentiment percentage for reversals.
https://fxssi.com/
  • #273
  • Sep 16, 2019 4:23am Sep 16, 2019 4:23am
Quoting SentiFX
{quote} I will be working on the Gap Fill blog post tomorrow. In the meantime - I have some questions. There are no right or wrong answers - I just want you to think about them and respond. 1. What do you think a Liquidity Gap is? 2. Why do you think a Liquidity Gap should be filled? 3. How do you know if a Liquidity Gap will cause a continuation or reversal? 4. How does sentiment play a role in the Liquidity Gap Trade? Those who participate will get rewarded with a link to my thorough analysis and explanation of the trade as soon as it is complete....
1) area of less resistance where price can easily fall through.
2) because it's an easy put for big boys to push price through without too much fighting.
3) nobody knows that.
4) I don't know the answer to this question. MM will push price in aether direction depending on where they can find more retail SL to take out with less effort possible.
  • #274
  • Edited 9:23am Sep 16, 2019 5:02am | Edited 9:23am
I am curious why so many people assume that if the price moved through some area fast and without retracements in the past, there are no orders there NOW.
  • #275
  • Sep 16, 2019 5:08am Sep 16, 2019 5:08am
Yes, there are many other places wbich give market sentiment but no one represents the 100% market coverage, i guess its not possible too... What is coverage/accuracy of sentifx? i would like to know
  • #276
  • Sep 16, 2019 5:15am Sep 16, 2019 5:15am
Quoting SentiFX
{quote} I will be working on the Gap Fill blog post tomorrow. In the meantime - I have some questions. There are no right or wrong answers - I just want you to think about them and respond. 1. What do you think a Liquidity Gap is? 2. Why do you think a Liquidity Gap should be filled? 3. How do you know if a Liquidity Gap will cause a continuation or reversal? 4. How does sentiment play a role in the Liquidity Gap Trade? Those who participate will get rewarded with a link to my thorough analysis and explanation of the trade as soon as it is complete....
How about those of use who have never paid attention to the concept of Liquidity, never knew it was or its importance to trading hence have little to no idea what it's about?
Know News/time; WAIT for Edge Entries, MPLC Normalization, Exits & TP's..
  • #277
  • Sep 16, 2019 5:22am Sep 16, 2019 5:22am
Quoting Pip-Miner
I like the extreme retail sentiment. Like cup is full but not with atr but sentiment percentage for reversals. https://fxssi.com/
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  • #278
  • Sep 16, 2019 6:04am Sep 16, 2019 6:04am
I have always thought that liquidity gaps (LG) occur when smart money (SM) is wanting to reach areas of high liquidity (stops) and has to quickly take out low areas of liquidity on the way before retail has a chance to move/remove their stops.

In this example quite a large LG has occurred to the downside. If there is a significant volume of sell stops sitting at the bottom of the LG bar, SM will need to buy the low level stops on the way down to reach its goal which is to gobble up the large volume i.e. buy them. If this is true, SM will now want to profit from the significant volume of longs it has acquired and so, at some point, I would expect the LG to be closed so that SM can unload the longs.

But this is just my take. Without actual order data, it's not possible to verify.
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  • #279
  • Sep 16, 2019 6:26am Sep 16, 2019 6:26am
Quoting SentiFX
{quote} I will be working on the Gap Fill blog post tomorrow. In the meantime - I have some questions. There are no right or wrong answers - I just want you to think about them and respond. 1. What do you think a Liquidity Gap is? 2. Why do you think a Liquidity Gap should be filled? 3. How do you know if a Liquidity Gap will cause a continuation or reversal? 4. How does sentiment play a role in the Liquidity Gap Trade? Those who participate will get rewarded with a link to my thorough analysis and explanation of the trade as soon as it is complete....
Sorry I am not englisch native and like princefred I didnīt study these notions closer yet. But i am interested, so please add me.

1. For me a liquidity gap is a sudden missing of strong byers or sellers. That causes a fast move of the price (high candles)
2. Because the strong byers or sellers are on another level. Price will mostly rebound
3. By watching closely the price action
4. Sorry I donīt know the definition of sentiment yet
  • #280
  • Sep 16, 2019 6:32am Sep 16, 2019 6:32am
There's a really good search facility on FF so, if you aren't sure about any of the terms you can always try it. I've just put in Liquidity gaps and it gave me over 4,000 hits. Take your pick.
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