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  • #97,601
  • Aug 24, 2019 1:05am Aug 24, 2019 1:05am
Quoting RickM
{quote} NO 97,000 posts means nothing. Go back 3 or 4 years and write down the names of all the regular posters at that time and see if they are still involved with trading this method. Out of a couple of hundred posters over that time, only a handful remain today trading TMS. That should give you a clue. I am not saying you can't be profitable trading TMS, I am saying its possible only with a deep understanding of price Mechanics. Many traders that have gain that level of understanding have moved on to better strategy's.
For about two / three month's been posting the same chart, same time frame, same TDI set-up, applying the same method, with the same words:
- Follow TDI: Post 97,098

Everyday it is the same roetine: Wait for the TDI crossover, compare and apply Post 97,098 to both chart's, place a trade, take a screenshot and post to FF.
(Only to get slapped in the face by Emmanuel, Iddd, tolls, expert bickering and newbies asking the same questions)

Do you mean to say I must still do that for the next 3 or 4 years just to prove that TMS is profitable.
It's getting kind of tiresome repetitive and boring

Been also thinking of stop posting because you can only post so much about something that is not going to change.
  • #97,602
  • Aug 24, 2019 1:14am Aug 24, 2019 1:14am
Quoting skyway
{quote} Hi Rick, when George shared his MM manipulation concept tbh I didn't "get it". Now I do - he is right I was wrong. I've gone one step further to recognise future MM psychological manipulation plan before they happen. What I can say is all the strategies on this FF system section omit this MM manipulation thing that's the shortfall. I've spent much time studying his concept and I'm thankful he opened my eyes that now I "see" the unseen. Like you said, trading is easy.
Yes, achieving a win rate of over 90% is easy once we get this deep understanding that this manipulation is real and can be seen ahead of time.

Cheers
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  • #97,603
  • Aug 24, 2019 1:20am Aug 24, 2019 1:20am
Quoting skyway
{quote} I traded with TDI indicator many, many years ago. Yes moved on from it since. You are spot on correct about this deep understanding of price mechanics that TMS tdi is a good opportunity to kick start this important lesson. Instead of trying to figure out to emulate how bigE trade which is what people try to do here, use TMS tdi to figure out this deep understanding of price mechanics which I call price structure.
Agree
TDI crossover is only giving a focus point on the chart to apply Post#647.
Is the contents of post#647 not the same as "price structure"?

I am not that good to read a chart with price action to find that focus point or to know this is the right time/ bar to place a trade.
  • #97,604
  • Edited 2:07am Aug 24, 2019 1:50am | Edited 2:07am
Quoting RickM
{quote} Hi Sky I believe we first have to accept that the market is highly manipulated by a single entity or a group of big players. Haven't you ever wondered if every time you placed a trade, you actually reversed your trade decision and when short instead of long or long instead of short. Then you decided to cut the trade or stay longer in the trade than you were going to do. Now doing this simple trading idea would probably double the amount of profitable traders in this game. This is the result of most retail traders being played and taken to...
The market is to big and random to be manipulated.

YOU ARE TRADING YOURSELF

You believe in accumulation and distribution then that is what you trade
You believe in Support and Resistance then that is what you trade
You believe in Pivot points then that is what you trade
You believe in Market flow then that is what you trade.
You believe in Price Action then that is what you trade.
You believe in ................ then that is what you trade.
I believe in what BigE posted in how to trade with TDI crossover.
  • #97,605
  • Aug 24, 2019 2:04am Aug 24, 2019 2:04am
Quoting RickM
{quote} Hi DrDave I feel this is the problem with trading strategy's like TMS. The search for the best tree or rows of trees to pick the fruit from is already too late. The fruit is ripe to eat now but how could you guess that these trees would provide the very best fruit from the whole orchard last month. Its impossible to guess with any decent accuracy that you will pick the right trees regardless of how many farms or rows of trees you can inspect every day. Just because that row looked good last week means nothing. Wouldn't it be better...
No need to guess: The markets are speaking to you. Do you know their language?
To free Gazans of Hamas, use whatever it takes.
  • #97,606
  • Aug 24, 2019 5:52am Aug 24, 2019 5:52am
Quoting DrDave
{quote} No need to guess: The markets are speaking to you. Do you know their language?
Hi DrDave

The big players manipulate the market to move it where they wish. They enable setups to be true or false but we cannot be sure whether they are taking us up a dead end road or not. If we listen to the market, we could just of being setup to lose. Better to wait, be patience and let the entity make its move first because when it leads retail traders up the dead end street, I will be waiting with a reversal trade.
Look at GBPUSD yesterday and the dead end street it travelled. That big rise created hidden micro gaps in that wide ranging candle which needed filling and the market during the Asia session reversed as it had too. Honestly that was a 90% sure winner without needing any lagging indicators to give us a crappy signal. The market was speaking to us not before or during the move, BUT AFTER
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  • #97,607
  • Aug 24, 2019 6:16am Aug 24, 2019 6:16am
Quoting RickM
{quote} Hi DrDave The big players manipulate the market to move it where they wish. They enable setups to be true or false but we cannot be sure whether they are taking us up a dead end road or not. If we listen to the market, we could just of being setup to lose. Better to wait, be patience and let the entity make its move first because when it leads retail traders up the dead end street, I will be waiting with a reversal trade. Look at GBPUSD yesterday and the dead end street it travelled. That big rise created hidden micro gaps in that...
This is EXACTLY why I use LAGGING indicators: I let the market show me that the cart has gone over the peak and is on the way down, or that the cart has come out of the valley and is on the way up. No guessing. No hope & pray. Just observe and then act. Lagging indicators do not give me signals that I consider crappy, or I would not be using them.

And even if I go with the market makers up a dead end road, they don't instantly turn the car around and come back. They also leave signs that they DID turn back, and it is time to exit, and most likely, time to take a ride back down as well. So in most cases, I don't need to wait; I can take retailers pips in both directions.
To free Gazans of Hamas, use whatever it takes.
  • #97,608
  • Aug 24, 2019 6:18am Aug 24, 2019 6:18am
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} The market is to big and random to be manipulated. YOU ARE TRADING YOURSELF You believe in accumulation and distribution then that is what you trade You believe in Support and Resistance then that is what you trade You believe in Pivot points then that is what you trade You believe in Market flow then that is what you trade. You believe in Price Action then that is what you trade. You believe in ................ then that is what you trade. I believe in what BigE posted in how to trade with TDI crossover.
Hi Tekkies, have I added you to my buddy list yet.

The market is manipulated not by any big player because you are right, it is too big. Imagine a equity firm in New York shorting the AU the same time a equity firm in London is going long with the AU. It would be a stalemate without any doubt, and they could never agree could they. The manipulation is far higher up the scale then that.
Luckily for us it’s not human but a Algo which has a code which can be understood, mapped then traded against for a bloody good profit.
I asked this question on this site months ago -
What is the purpose of a trend?

Anyone?
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  • #97,609
  • Aug 24, 2019 6:29am Aug 24, 2019 6:29am
Quoting RickM
{quote} Hi Tekkies, have I added you to my buddy list yet. The market is manipulated not by any big player because you are right, it is too big. Imagine a equity firm in New York shorting the AU the same time a equity firm in London is going long with the AU. It would be a stalemate without any doubt, and they could never agree could they. The manipulation is far higher up the scale then that. Luckily for us it’s not human but a Algo which has a code which can be understood, mapped then traded against for a bloody good profit. I asked this question...

my opinion is
mate a trend down or up is to drag people that way letting them take a few dollars then go the other way dragging the money back and making bigger profit , same sht different day week in week out on and on and on
people leave, but this thread will go on for ever
  • #97,610
  • Aug 24, 2019 6:31am Aug 24, 2019 6:31am
Quoting DrDave
{quote} This is EXACTLY why I use LAGGING indicators: I let the market show me that the cart has gone over the peak and is on the way down, or that the cart has come out of the valley and is on the way up. No guessing. No hope & pray. Just observe and then act. Lagging indicators do not give me signals that I consider crappy, or I would not be using them. And even if I go with the market makers up a dead end road, they don't instantly turn the car around and come back. They also leave signs that they DID turn back, and it is time to exit, and most...
Were where you a couple of months ago?
It still happen now and then that a members complain about the "laggard" TDI.
- Give signals late
- Lag price action
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You don't need to eat the whole bread, only a slice or two (10 pips a day) will still the hunger.
  • #97,611
  • Aug 24, 2019 6:42am Aug 24, 2019 6:42am
Quoting RickM
{quote}What is the purpose of a trend?
To get that 10 pips a day.
-----
Are you referring to that Algo that caused a black swan some years ago?
  • #97,612
  • Aug 24, 2019 10:02am Aug 24, 2019 10:02am
Quoting RickM
I asked this question on this site months ago - What is the purpose of a trend? Anyone?
In my opinion, the purpose of a trend is to move price to a level where liquidity is available to close contracts at a profit, open contracts in the opposite direction, or both of the above.
To free Gazans of Hamas, use whatever it takes.
  • #97,613
  • Aug 24, 2019 10:56am Aug 24, 2019 10:56am
Quoting DrDave
{quote} In my opinion, the purpose of a trend is to move price to a level where liquidity is available to close contracts at a profit, open contracts in the opposite direction, or both of the above.
Hi DrDave

I believe a trend is purely the Algo enticing traders to place a trade on the market by simply moving the price up a few ticks or down a few ticks. This action provides liquidity to the market because traders start to enter positions and add stop losses. The higher or lower it goes, the larger amount of liquidity is created within the market mainly due to fear. Its the fear of traders missing out on good profits so they enter, its the fear of traders losing their equity so they leave and hopefully a few traders collect their profits as well. So trends don't really exist, just increasing levels of Liquidity till exhausion of liquidity occurs (pinbar on ocassions) then decreasing levels of Liquidity (inbalance period on the chart with micro gaps within the market ) till the Algo fills all the holes and resets the balance to zero. This is what occurred with GBPUSD on Friday, a reversal through a inbalance zone on a chart filled with gaps (90% winable trade ).
The Algo will always move price to areas that lack liquidity to balance itself once it has consumed a high amount of orders. We don't know why this occurrs but it may be part of the code to entice sellers back into the market, your guess is as good as mind.

Here is the point I am trying to make. In a large trend (high volume of orders opening/closing) a TDI can't tell you if the direction is going to change till exhaustion occurs, you may win or may lose so its a 50% chance. But the TDI will be 90% right during this inbalance period of filling all the gaps when it reverses.
If we understand the process of how increasing and decreasing liquidity affects the direction of price, we can be selective and rarely lose.

WHY DO WE NEED THE TDI OR OTHER LAGGING INDICATORS WHEN WE CAN JUST USE OUR EYES

P.S. - Of course a good trader can make money with any tool with experience so I am sure you do well, most however will fail badly.
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  • #97,614
  • Aug 24, 2019 2:47pm Aug 24, 2019 2:47pm
Quoting RickM
{quote} Hi DrDave I believe a trend is purely the Algo enticing traders to place a trade on the market by simply moving the price up a few ticks or down a few ticks. This action provides liquidity to the market because traders start to enter positions and add stop losses. The higher or lower it goes, the larger amount of liquidity is created within the market mainly due to fear. Its the fear of traders missing out on good profits so they enter, its the fear of traders losing their equity so they leave and hopefully a few traders collect their profits...
Post 97,571: You need to find the reason why TDI green crossed red.
  • #97,615
  • Edited 4:03pm Aug 24, 2019 2:54pm | Edited 4:03pm
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} To get that 10 pips a day. ----- Are you referring to that Algo that caused a black swan some years ago?
Hi Tekkies

The Algo is an entity that moves the market all the time because this is the only way the market can move without a major news item giving it a push. I read somewhere it takes 50 million dollars to move the EURUSD one cent provided no other major player is trading which is almost impossible. No one has pockets that deep to risk that sort of money on a risky trade like that. But having this Algo that creates liquidity by manipulation the market all day long to a preset code is the best outcome we could ever wish for. We have a chance of understanding a Algo but never could we hope to understand a human trader with personal issues at home.
How do I know this?

Because I have sat next to a trader who has a deep understanding of this action. I watched him call trade after trade correctly and amass 200 pips trading the M15 chart in only 60 minutes. There was no luck involved, just a deep understanding of its actions.

I think I better get my big theory's, stick them in a bag and bugger of before I get myself in trouble again.

Cheers Rick
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  • #97,616
  • Edited 3:58pm Aug 24, 2019 3:11pm | Edited 3:58pm
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} Post 97,571: You need to find the reason why TDI green crossed red.
Hi Tekkies my old mate,

Post 97563

Yes I can explain what happen 100% on that move.
In my next post I will show you why it happen and where you should have traded it without losing a trade. Of course in hindsight, we are all great traders and never wrong ha ha

Cheers Rick
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  • #97,617
  • Aug 24, 2019 4:33pm Aug 24, 2019 4:33pm
Here's why it happen Trekkies.

Britpips7 got it wrong, it had nothing to do with news but just manipulation of the market by the Algo.
Simply it was still chasing Liquidity from previous recent price action. That was mainly stop losses from sellers and your trade decision to enter was late but still worth some nice profits. A better point of entry would have been at the extremes of the chart (dash line) and then take the profits long before it hits the other side.
Your mistake was only you decided to stay too long.

See on the bottom one minute chart, the Algo 5 times pushed up the price to close seller stop losses before reversing each time. There were 5 possible reversal trades on offer, you took one late but never closed to take profit. Notice at each step, it was a higher high.

LET THE MARKET MOVE FIRST THEN TAKE THE REVERSAL TRADE BACK INTO THINNING LIQUIDITY

Cheers
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  • #97,618
  • Aug 24, 2019 4:51pm Aug 24, 2019 4:51pm
Quoting RickM
Here's why it happen Trekkies. Britpips7 got it wrong, it had nothing to do with news but just manipulation of the market by the Algo. Simply it was still chasing Liquidity from previous recent price action. That was mainly stop losses from sellers and your trade decision to enter was late but still worth some nice profits. A better point of entry would have been at the extremes of the chart (dash line) and then take the profits long before it hits the other side. Your mistake was only you decided to stay too long. See on the bottom one minute chart,...
Rick.

Your charts are some of the prettiest I've ever seen. I mean that sincerely.

Pretty in an artistic sense, and very very pretty to trade.

I wish you'd start a thread, but understand completely why you wouldn't wish to.

Cheers Anthony
Empty your mind and let the market guide you
  • #97,619
  • Edited 5:20pm Aug 24, 2019 5:06pm | Edited 5:20pm
Quoting SunnyCoast
{quote} Rick. Your charts are some of the prettiest I've ever seen. I mean that sincerely. Pretty in an artistic sense, and very very pretty to trade. I wish you'd start a thread, but understand completely why you wouldn't wish to. Cheers Anthony
Hi Anthony

I know you are aware of the stuff I am throwing out here so it will be no surprise to you what the ALGO is doing.
Its enticing more Sellers into the market then on some day next week or the week after, its going to CLEAN OUT every Seller Stop loss on that chart.
It will take them to the cleaners completely.

I would wait to Buy SOON - Hell I may even join the Algo for fun

Cheers Rick
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  • #97,620
  • Aug 24, 2019 5:36pm Aug 24, 2019 5:36pm
Quoting SunnyCoast
{quote} Rick. Your charts are some of the prettiest I've ever seen. I mean that sincerely. Pretty in an artistic sense, and very very pretty to trade. I wish you'd start a thread, but understand completely why you wouldn't wish to. Cheers Anthony
Anthony

I forgot to mention this issue and its one George never understood what I was going on about. On almost every decent looking Herd Box, you will find a Vacuum space within the zone. See how price returned to this exact spot at close of week. Its the biggest gap on that chart that will never be filled for years.
Once the Algo gives up trying to fill it, it will clear out all those seller stops.

Cheers - Still waiting for traders to tell me to piss off
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