A good lesson.
it can be a task of weeks or years...
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- Aug 13, 2019 10:46am Aug 13, 2019 10:46am
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it can be a task of weeks or years...
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- Aug 13, 2019 10:53am Aug 13, 2019 10:53am
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- Aug 13, 2019 12:34pm Aug 13, 2019 12:34pm
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This is just informative post for show how I work in my side when I have a problem in a test I had setup #1 with a random performance. I had some winner row but a loss row too. At the end this losses were eating all profit. Then I was checking if setup problem was a mix weight problem or something more serious ( just its not a good mix ) First thing I did was check that win/loss rows for check what pins were in the mix. Basically I had 2 of 3 group pins with signal in almost all that trades. And not always had same tools making signal inside every...
no more order in auto, thinking about how will safe in auto mode.
this is multipair, make so difficult if have same scenario in multipair will have same good result, different pair have different caracter too.
that i also think just 1 order in one pair, this is no marti so if correction no enough, will keep in negatif position.
and we don't know how far move the price, the long trend will start or condition market suddently break out.
if have good momentum, order and make fast exit too. one day maybe limit time or limit order just 1 or 2 but have good quality order.
will refresh and have green pip without stress hold in negative position.
in market like War, and the indicator will look good visual after price move.
in war condition, if we can run and still life he/she have good skill or good luck.
in market after price move,,,our balance still full, grow, or negatif position....?
this talk about full automode...so think about quailty order....
that i agree with you, Brain,,just remove bad trade(bad mix, bad combination),
no problem with one day one order or one week just 5 order. but can make grow the balance.
Regard, Ding Dong
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- Aug 13, 2019 12:53pm Aug 13, 2019 12:53pm
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- Aug 13, 2019 1:05pm Aug 13, 2019 1:05pm
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- Aug 13, 2019 1:05pm Aug 13, 2019 1:05pm
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{quote} 3 questions on this one . How many trades /pair you took? . Did you had one profit peak in green? . How much pips was the green profit peak?
I have not set the SL basket due to one reason. In my my setup I have seen at some movements I have more than 300 pips in red before go green. When I have 3 trades per pair its possible to go too red for some period before go to green. Lets say If I have set -300 in SL basket. Then all trades will be closed even if I have opportunity to take 1000 green pips within next 2, 3 hours. how to deal with this?
what SL method is best for my case?
"Don't Predict, Do react"
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- Aug 13, 2019 11:57pm Aug 13, 2019 11:57pm
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- Aug 14, 2019 1:42am Aug 14, 2019 1:42am
Today I only had 5 bad trades of 33 closed. Better than yesterday so far {image}
do you use any filter for entry? is it manual or auto? i wonder you have had 33 position in 1 day and 28 of them closed in profit!
i had a few positions this week so far and many of them hit SL. it is a slow market for me!
- #9,450
- Aug 14, 2019 2:06am Aug 14, 2019 2:06am
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{quote} Hi BTB do you use any filter for entry? is it manual or auto? i wonder you have had 33 position in 1 day and 28 of them closed in profit!
About SL you need normal exits. Hard stops never works well. But you have build an exit strategy different your entries. Entries are delayed due filters then wave path is smaller and you need exit faster before price turns
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- Aug 14, 2019 2:14am Aug 14, 2019 2:14am
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This capture shows i i use a setup for entries ( more complex and filtered ) but i use 2 exit different setups with simpler mix.
This shows what is the real margin when you have a trade if is opened at black circle. Space for exit with profit is small. Then you need exits can manage this as worst case because im overall you will want keep trades if price is in a trend. But even trends have retracements ( waves ) can make fake exits. Its not an easy task find a balance
This shows what is the real margin when you have a trade if is opened at black circle. Space for exit with profit is small. Then you need exits can manage this as worst case because im overall you will want keep trades if price is in a trend. But even trends have retracements ( waves ) can make fake exits. Its not an easy task find a balance
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- Edited 2:35am Aug 14, 2019 2:18am | Edited 2:35am
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{quote} But you only had problem in that group? Or all your tests down profit due spikes? About force closes manually it depends if your auto exits works. It's preferred system c!ose trades indivually. But as you commented if you had trades keeping long time without any close then something didn't work well and maybe you need make finger trick until you find a way trades are closed in a natural way by system Anyway if you had profit before spike then you don't have worry because nothing was wrong from entries view. This kind of movements are not...
I was confused and confidence less. setup with 1:200 survived with a loss. Cant compare each other since account sizes are different and the opened trade number at that time.
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- Aug 14, 2019 3:26am Aug 14, 2019 3:26am
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{quote} "Anyway if you had profit before spike then you don't have worry because nothing was wrong from entries view. " these few words made my day...
About tests all were affected but OfficePC look didn't have any problem ( only 40% DD ). If that DD was yesterday effect then are good news. Maybe you have work more taking that test as base. I saw now second capture shows a hidden effect of yesterday spike not showed in first capture. Anyway in overall did it better than others
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- Edited 4:08am Aug 14, 2019 3:50am | Edited 4:08am
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I would like comment something about people can feel disappointed when things fail. In my case I'm since Sep 18 using a new paradigm about how build an auto system. If in my case all looks easy and fast is due I passed initial stages a few months ago.
But nobody have feel disappointed if in overall their tests were well and failed in days like yesterday. Days like yesterday are exceptional. Who followed my Stack MM will understand where was my system state at that moment and why looks i get fast results now. Really i need more 2 months for fix a big issue. Time I needed for create Score. Really it was my asnwer to one problem i was carrying in my system. As swing system works well in range but fails in strong trends like trade war ( last 3 months ).
If every time i had a problem stops, now I'm not in this sweet moment
its just patience and try get max benefit of tools. Reward will arrive if people is constant. You have some example in other threads 
But nobody have feel disappointed if in overall their tests were well and failed in days like yesterday. Days like yesterday are exceptional. Who followed my Stack MM will understand where was my system state at that moment and why looks i get fast results now. Really i need more 2 months for fix a big issue. Time I needed for create Score. Really it was my asnwer to one problem i was carrying in my system. As swing system works well in range but fails in strong trends like trade war ( last 3 months ).
If every time i had a problem stops, now I'm not in this sweet moment
its just patience and try get max benefit of tools. Reward will arrive if people is constant. You have some example in other threads Try don't lose pants never...
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- Edited 4:49am Aug 14, 2019 4:36am | Edited 4:49am
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- Aug 14, 2019 4:59am Aug 14, 2019 4:59am
{quote} Its because we close trades when reach a min. I'm not sure how do it Husky but in my case I explained it in link posted. Basically i wait new H4 candle. My setup around 150p start to be exhausted and its better close and start new cycle. But every system is different and I'm trying other ways more refinate like only close trades with a min profit. Still all without clear conclusions PS: Yesterday Husky had 2400p since he started his real account last week. Really crazy
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- Edited 5:42am Aug 14, 2019 5:22am | Edited 5:42am
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{quote} i saw your post but it was your dashboard and can't understand what indicators you're using or what you are doing!
My base is 3 Scores + 1 levels. Pin 92 is levels. Rest are Score with different TF
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