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Only values you can set are neutra/extreme. I use default ( 10/50 ). I was checking different values in different TFs but never is perfect. In low TFs ( M5/M15 ) maybe is more interesting try 0/60 or above

But you should check with your tools what do you want do exactly. Really I made this tool for to add AI because any tool fits perfect without use different setup per pair/tf and is useless try find one balanced setup can do quite well in all pairs

I like more split market in blocks and set on the fly the best setup. But that only can be done by AI
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{quote} Only value you can set are neutra/extreme. I use default ( 10/50 ). I was checking different values in different TFs but never is perfect. In low TFs ( M5/M15 ) maybe is more interesting try 0/60 or above But you have check with your tools what do you want do exactly. Really I made this tool for add AI because any tool fits perfect without use different setup per pair/tf and is useless try find one balanced setup can make quite well in all pairs I like more split market in blocks and set on the fly the best setup. But that only can be done...
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thank you explain i will check it 15 min looking for good pivot tool..
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{quote} thank you explain i will check it 15 min looking for good pivot tool.. {image}
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GBP pairs are easy now. Always down
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{quote} GBP pairs are easy now. Always down
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Hi Brian
Thanks for the new release
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I made time ago an EAX replacement. Only thing didn't have is real trades support ( works as virtual simulator ). Even I like EAX i always felt heavy. MT4 is not a prodigy of optimization and load 1700 objects in chart don't help. In my case have mt4 minimize ( without update screen ) is 10/15% cpu usage difference

My panell ( simpler that EAX ) only need 170 objects for 6 instances. Evidently this down a lot cpu usage. Its project I'm working now. Basically add new panel and trades support ( both are in other projects then it will need be long )
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I made time ago an EAX replacement. Only thing didn't have is real trades support ( works as virtual simulator ). Even I like EAX i always felt heavy. MT4 is not a prodigy of optimization and load 1700 objects in chart don't help. In my case have mt4 minimize ( without update screen ) is 10/15% cpu usage difference My panell ( simpler that EAX ) only need 170 objects for 6 instances. Evidently this down a lot cpu usage. Its project I'm working now. Basically add new panel and trades support ( both are in other projects then it will need be long...
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So journey just began!
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{quote} So journey just began!
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It began 3 years ago. I'm still waking...
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{quote} Im faaaaaaded..... {image} results from 3 PCs.
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Test Results for the Last week. 3 Demos, 8 variations.
which one to go forward? Any advice please?
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{quote} Test Results for the Last week. 3 Demos, 8 variations. which one to go forward? Any advice please? {image}
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Easy question. Tests have less DD and high profit with a good profit per trade. Exits are full auto or basket?
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I made time ago an EAX replacement. Only thing didn't have is real trades support ( works as virtual simulator ). Even I like EAX i always felt heavy. MT4 is not a prodigy of optimization and load 1700 objects in chart don't help. In my case have mt4 minimize ( without update screen ) is 10/15% cpu usage difference My panell ( simpler that EAX ) only need 170 objects for 6 instances. Evidently this down a lot cpu usage. Its project I'm working now. Basically add new panel and trades support ( both are in other projects then it will need be long...
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Hi Brain

First of all thank you for the Pivot Server update very good job.

The Eax Replacement is a good idea... especially a dashboard based on diffrent moneymanagment options. For example Partial close based on daily pivot point hitting and Breakeven after first hit of daily pivot if you have set wekly pivot entry ect.....There are many options. If we have pins we dont need extra indicator options inside the dashboard. This can save you a lot of resources. we are still searching for good exits. Sometimes there are good exit options based on money management My opinion.
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{quote} Hi Brain First of all thank you for the Pivot Server update very good job. The Eax Replacement is a good idea... especially a dashboard based on diffrent moneymanagment options. For example Partial close based on daily pivot point hitting and Breakeven after first hit of daily pivot if you have set wekly pivot entry ect.....There are many options. If we have pins we dont need extra indicator options inside the dashboard. This can save you a lot of resources. My opinion
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That is my idea. My trailing not close trades. Works as pin. But I have 2 pin out channels for separate profit exits and loss exits. With pins you can abstract many things. At the end expert only see buy/sell/neutral. How is managed is a pin tool business

But this EA manager is different in concept. It have session record for AI/backtest and for MM uses my stack idea ( a kind of hedge without SL ) then you only can have one trade per pair. Evidently you can have an external trailing pin tool for manage SL closes
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{quote} Test Results for the Last week. 3 Demos, 8 variations. which one to go forward? Any advice please? {image}
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Test #3,3 is only using pivots?
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I made time ago an EAX replacement. Only thing didn't have is real trades support ( works as virtual simulator ). Even I like EAX i always felt heavy. MT4 is not a prodigy of optimization and load 1700 objects in chart don't help. In my case have mt4 minimize ( without update screen ) is 10/15% cpu usage difference My panell ( simpler that EAX ) only need 170 objects for 6 instances. Evidently this down a lot cpu usage. Its project I'm working now. Basically add new panel and trades support ( both are in other projects then it will need be long...
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Good to hear, Brain..
Pivot and Fibo, have limit for calc data.
But when see in here have some histogram, we can see in different view. And look good, Brain..
Good tool for help trader with low cpu usa

Need some dynamic like this, cause market have some dynamic movement too.
When think about scenario close order, that difficult if think will near with perfect scenario.
In reality used in auto mode for real acc, importance think the balance can survive with market, the trader will accept or no with the DD.
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  • Aug 11, 2019 7:50am Aug 11, 2019 7:50am
  •  braintheboss
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{quote} Good to hear, Brain.. Pivot and Fibo, have limit for calc data. But when see in here have some histogram, we can see in different view. And look good, Brain.. Good tool for help trader with low cpu usa Need some dynamic like this, cause market have some dynamic movement too. When think about scenario close order, that difficult if think will near with perfect scenario. In reality used in auto mode for real acc, importance think the balance can survive with market, the trader will accept or no with the DD.
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You know I'm fan to can check past history. A tool without can analize how works is useless for me. I hope you find it useful in your trading
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  •  Central4
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{quote} That is my idea. My trailing not close trades. Works as pin. But I have 2 pin out channels for separate profit exits and loss exits. With pins you can abstract many things. At the end expert only see buy/sell/neutral. How is managed is a pin tool business But this EA manager is different in concept. It have session record for AI/backtest and for MM uses my stack idea ( a kind of hedge without SL ) then you only can have one trade per pair. Evidently you can have an external trailing pin tool for manage SL closes
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Very Good Brain

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Usually I'm not a big fan of blind trailing stops. But here I have a dynamic atr based pivot indicator (Red ma Line) that could be used very well as a trailing. the problem is only here is a fixed Rangvalue of 100 indicate that does not fit every market.

1. We currently have summer everything is on vacation. So the range moment will be less than in winter.
2. In general, major pairs have more range than others, so a peculiarity.
So you would have to scan the atr range for the last 5 days and change that value from 100 to 80 or 120 depending on your marketsituation. (Calculate average)

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Maybe then you could filter out such ranging phases more (marked in black).

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{quote} Very Good Brain {image} Usually I'm not a big fan of blind trailing stops. But here I have a dynamic atr based pivot indicator (Red ma Line) that could be used very well as a trailing. the problem is only here is a fixed Rangvalue of 100 indicate that does not fit every market. 1. We currently have summer everything is on vacation. So the range moment will be less than in winter. 2. In general, major pairs have more range than others, so a peculiarity. So man would have to scan the atr range for the last 5 days and change that value from...
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Fits quite well. It's curious how limits are similar ATR levels inside range area. That confirms my idea about how works ATR levels ( just a price movement measurement )

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{quote} Very Good Brain {image} Usually I'm not a big fan of blind trailing stops. But here I have a dynamic atr based pivot indicator (Red ma Line) that could be used very well as a trailing. the problem is only here is a fixed Rangvalue of 100 indicate that does not fit every market. 1. We currently have summer everything is on vacation. So the range moment will be less than in winter. 2. In general, major pairs have more range than others, so a peculiarity. So you would have to scan the atr range for the last 5 days and change that value from...
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As you well commented you always have a shifted range around 100%. I told this time ago in stack MM thread. Normally it's that 20% you told. I use 10 bars for atr in all tools because it have best of 2 worlds

And Levels uses 10% trigger around areas which fits with that 20%

About that tool in your capture I think is more interesting when price is in trend because give you clear place price enters in consolidation. For black area using exit between levels is allowed same ( with less noise )
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  •  belie
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{quote} Easy question. Test have less DD and high profit with a good profit per trade. Exits are full auto or basket? {image}
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Week start was very good for me and basket close happened two time according to my memory. And one closed manually when it reached some 400p levels(with high DD). Most of closed orders started previous week and held over the last weekend. Some are closed by checking manually (with visual confirmations) when I felt its the time to closed. I felt like I had too many orders with these 8 variations and cant remember exactly what was my manual closes . So I thought to be less in the coming week and need to select the best few mix to go forward.
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  • Aug 11, 2019 8:23am Aug 11, 2019 8:23am
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{quote} Week start was very good for me and basket close happened two time according to my memory. And one closed manually when it reached some 400p levels(with high DD). Most of closed orders started previous week and held over the last weekend. Some are closed by checking manually (with visual confirmations) when I felt its the time to closed. I felt like I had too many orders with these 8 variations and cant remember exactly what was my manual closes . So I thought to be less in the coming week and need to select the best few mix...
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Then try let one test only full auto for compare manual exits against auto. It will show you as far are auto closes of be reliable. I saw your test 3,3 is the best in overall. I'm not sure if it's only only uses pivots alone
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  • Aug 11, 2019 8:31am Aug 11, 2019 8:31am
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Yes boss. 3.3 is only Pivot 15M and 1H. Its really good. The thing I missed to do is filter the major trend direction like 4H / 1D. will test it.
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{quote} Yes boss. 3.3 is only Pivot 15M and 1H. Its really good. The thing I missed to do is filter the major trend direction like 4H / 1D. will test it. {image}
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That gives light about maybe main problem is not tool itself and it's more related about find a good mix in different TFs. I agree is impressive thinking is a naked tool

PS: What differences are about top/bottom tests in every group? I see less trades at bottom group
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