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  • #2,381
  • Jul 7, 2019 9:59am Jul 7, 2019 9:59am
Quoting beefStew
{quote} Frosty bro, My aim right now is to pick the "better" QM, so i read the link you provided. I cant really understand the "DISTINCT PAZ" that IF wrote in his chart. can you please explain a bit more about them? it looks like QMs that forming near their edges are of higher probability? Thanks!
Hi Bro,

QMs near the edges of PAZs are indeed higher probability. Technically in RTM, they call that QM as MPL if i'm not mistaken.

About PAZs, what worked for me was to look closely at the horizontal lines that make up the rectangle in that chart...They are similar to S/R no? So I tend to look at them as S/R levels that have been proven to hold price up and down for many times and in HTF. Bro Matrix and Quantom explained this a few posts back if im not mistaken.

Higher probability QMs are also usually at the source of up or downmove....RTM term: first engulfs.

Also if you read Batus' explanations in this thread, I believe those are the High Liquidity Area for sniper entries.

What needs to be done is to manage expectations with this kind of trading. It will not all work out in your favor all the time. But when they fail, look for iQM setups if you want. Also lots of info in this thread about that.

Personally, I'm too stupid to figure out what RTM is teaching Never understood the scale problem and how members seem to have the uncanny ability to read price like clairvoyants. So if you're wondering more about RTM stuff, your best bet is to ask the master traders in RTM thread. SelfControl is the best to ask from at the moment if he is already back here (I'm not saying others aren't good traders....personal opinion only). Awesome sniper entries.

Please don't take my words as the rule/gospel. The best truth is the one you figure out yourself from chart studies, imho.

Hope that helps.
Entities should not be multiplied without necessity - Occam's razor
  • #2,382
  • Jul 7, 2019 10:20pm Jul 7, 2019 10:20pm
Quoting Frosty85
{quote} Hi Bro, QMs near the edges of PAZs are indeed higher probability. Technically in RTM, they call that QM as MPL if i'm not mistaken. About PAZs, what worked for me was to look closely at the horizontal lines that make up the rectangle in that chart...They are similar to S/R no? So I tend to look at them as S/R levels that have been proven to hold price up and down for many times and in HTF. Bro Matrix and Quantom explained this a few posts back if im not mistaken. Higher probability QMs are also usually at the source of up or downmove....RTM...
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Personally, I'm too stupid to figure out what RTM is teaching
i can relate to this very well lol.
im not really good figuring things on charts without explanation.

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to look closely at the horizontal lines that make up the rectangle in that chart...They are similar to S/R no?
yeah that makes sense. im gonna go and check my charts for them.
and Batus' charts. i never really noticed them until now.

thanks a lot for the advice my friend!
Ask, and it is given. Every single time, no exceptions.
  • #2,383
  • Jul 8, 2019 3:46am Jul 8, 2019 3:46am
Quoting beefStew
{quote} I have a question here, Why is the area on the red rectangle marked? the most possible i can think of is that they broke something to its left, but i cant figure out the specific area that was broken.
HI,
I try to understand "distinc PAZ' , but not clear. For me, only look for origin of move and look for QML in there.
  • #2,384
  • Jul 8, 2019 7:57am Jul 8, 2019 7:57am
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  • #2,385
  • Jul 8, 2019 8:19am Jul 8, 2019 8:19am
Wish best of trade.

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  • #2,386
  • Jul 8, 2019 9:52am Jul 8, 2019 9:52am
Quoting batus
Wish best of trade. {image}
1 & a half hour later ..US open trade

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  • #2,387
  • Jul 8, 2019 1:23pm Jul 8, 2019 1:23pm
audjpy(m15) delivert again ....
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May the Sheen be with you....
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  • Jul 8, 2019 4:30pm Jul 8, 2019 4:30pm
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  • #2,389
  • Jul 8, 2019 8:59pm Jul 8, 2019 8:59pm
First comment in this tread , first comment in FF in fact , this pattern or system gives low risk with high return
  • #2,390
  • Jul 9, 2019 3:23am Jul 9, 2019 3:23am
Quoting matrix2017
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here an idea ;-)
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aka Liquinvest
  • #2,391
  • Jul 9, 2019 8:01am Jul 9, 2019 8:01am
Quoting Copis
{quote} here an idea ;-) {image}
Hi, please see the attached screenshot and answer my questions.

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  • #2,392
  • Jul 9, 2019 8:45am Jul 9, 2019 8:45am
Quoting selfcontrol
{quote} Hi, please see the attached screenshot and answer my questions. {image}
Nice to meet you.
  • #2,393
  • Jul 9, 2019 9:01am Jul 9, 2019 9:01am
Quoting selfcontrol
{quote} Hi, please see the attached screenshot and answer my questions. {image}
I want only show a short painting if you painting past all then you have this picture here (there is much more in the chart but for this entry its enough)
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there is a failure in it its not last supply is last demand sorry im little in rush ;-)
aka Liquinvest
  • #2,394
  • Jul 9, 2019 9:57am Jul 9, 2019 9:57am
just remember ....
Whatever it is,
Entry point are only two either pullback or breakout
Exit point are also two either exit loss or exit gain.

Once it was clear enough, the trade is yours.
  • #2,395
  • Jul 9, 2019 10:02am Jul 9, 2019 10:02am
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  • #2,396
  • Jul 9, 2019 10:22am Jul 9, 2019 10:22am
Marked mine too low...missed this one Still don't understand the scaling

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  • #2,397
  • Edited 11:45am Jul 9, 2019 11:32am | Edited 11:45am
Quoting Copis
{quote} I want only show a short painting if you painting past all then you have this picture here (there is much more in the chart but for this entry its enough) {image} there is a failure in it its not last supply is last demand sorry im little in rush ;-)
Hi Copis,

I have a few questions regarding your chart. Please help me figuring them

1. Why is the blue rectangle an FL? What did it break?
2. So many CPs, are they act like FLs? Because i see you marked a CP as engulfed on the way up

Thank you
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  • #2,398
  • Jul 9, 2019 12:25pm Jul 9, 2019 12:25pm
Quoting Copis
{quote} I want only show a short painting if you painting past all then you have this picture here (there is much more in the chart but for this entry its enough) {image} there is a failure in it its not last supply is last demand sorry im little in rush ;-)
Hi, thanks for replying to me.

And this is exactly why RTM trading is not something I would advise to anyone to try to learn. It's a jumbled mess of terminologies and boxes based on what's left of the people preaching on these forums. Compression all over the place, FLs here and there, randomly guessing or assuming something is or is not important. How anyone can look at a chart and see "CP CP CP CP engulf into CP enter at random QML below" as something consistently achievable is beyond me. I can't even begin to comprehend the mental energy that is required to make such an analysis that seems to differ for every trade setup, based on what I see on these forums. I propose to keep it simple and learn to follow the order flow, then there will be no accident when you pick up a trade with a 0.1 pip entry zone, I promise you that much.
  • #2,399
  • Jul 9, 2019 12:52pm Jul 9, 2019 12:52pm
Quoting selfcontrol
{quote} Hi, thanks for replying to me. And this is exactly why RTM trading is not something I would advise to anyone to try to learn. It's a jumbled mess of terminologies and boxes based on what's left of the people preaching on these forums. Compression all over the place, FLs here and there, randomly guessing or assuming something is or is not important. How anyone can look at a chart and see "CP CP CP CP engulf into CP enter at random QML below" as something consistently achievable is beyond me. I can't even begin to comprehend the mental energy...
for that i donīt want paint so much in this chart it was only for the confirmation trade not more not less. i study long (and i study also every day now) for my knowing i have yet. if you an beginner is easier to trade with qml - up and under (like here). RTM in the end is only a type of Orderflow reading but you must learn it. you have your own style (much lsk trading i think) but itīs also learning study and then you have master it.
sorry for posting another stuff then "up and under" here.
aka Liquinvest
  • #2,400
  • Jul 10, 2019 11:11pm Jul 10, 2019 11:11pm
Probably time to take a little profit
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