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  • #21
  • Jun 22, 2019 1:04am Jun 22, 2019 1:04am
Watch out free speech is not allowed in the age of moodygeorge
Necessity knows no law except to conquer
  • #22
  • Jun 22, 2019 1:08am Jun 22, 2019 1:08am
Quoting 3ndlessHope
Watch out free speech is not allowed in the age of moodygeorge
hi mate well this thread is for all except the ones who are a nuisance , what do you think of tma,s
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  • #23
  • Jun 22, 2019 1:26am Jun 22, 2019 1:26am
Quoting Aussi
{quote} hi mate well this thread is for all except the ones who are a nuisance , what do you think of tma,s
I dont use it myself(for a reason) but I have looked at it because of the hype. Its the same as the rest of the indicators that we have acces to... Everyone goes crazy when it "works" but nobody cares when it fails and if you look at it you will notice that it often fails and fails hard. I dont beleive in profitable systems, but profitable persons.

Systemhopping at its finest. We have seen it in the past like 1000 times already, but our memory likes to cheat us : )
Necessity knows no law except to conquer
  • #24
  • Jun 22, 2019 1:31am Jun 22, 2019 1:31am
Quoting 3ndlessHope
{quote} I dont use it myself(for a reason) but I have looked at it because of the hype. Its the same as the rest of the indicators that we have acces to... Everyone goes crazy when it "works" but nobody cares when it fails and if you look at it you will notice that it often fails and fails hard. I dont beleive in profitable systems, but profitable persons. Systemhopping at its finest. We have seen it in the past like 1000 times already, but our memory likes to cheat us : )
over my years i have looked at thousands of indicators and tested them well most i discounted included the tma,s but again i have spoken to people who use and swear they are good where other say they are not so i guess its in the eye of the holder

i have looked a hundreds of ea,s and you are right "Everyone goes crazy when it "works" but nobody cares when it fails and if you look at it you will notice that it often fails and fails hard" and thats the reality of it the hype the promises of quick rich,s
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  • #25
  • Jun 22, 2019 1:35am Jun 22, 2019 1:35am
with the robots that fail they get a make over a year after they fail same promises and hype
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  • #26
  • Edited 1:57am Jun 22, 2019 1:46am | Edited 1:57am
Indicators are tools that aid the trader in the analysis of price giving the user more info than just bare OHLC price or ticks.

We can't say indicator A is better than indicator B.

There are expert users of indicator A as well as expert users of indicator B.

The difference lies in the mastery and expertise of the user of whatever indicator.

The problem I have with George and his inner family is their unsubstantiated claim that George is the best trader on the planet hence by inference his MM manipulation psychology methodology is the best technical analysis. Which I disagree. To me George methodology is just another one of the many that grace these forums. Ofc the inner family members who before George thread have not tasted success will claim it's the best thing that's happened to them. No surprise there.

If it means so much to George that he covets this best on the planet title then he should participate and win the world forex championship competition.

More important to the average Joe trader, is simply to use a strategy that suit your personality, risk tolerance and account size.
Best trader or best strategy has no relevance to your own trading success.
  • #27
  • Jun 22, 2019 2:07am Jun 22, 2019 2:07am
Quoting skyway
Indicators are tools that aid the trader in the analysis of price giving the user more info than just bare OHLC price or ticks. We can't say indicator A is better than indicator B. There are expert users of indicator A as well as expert users of indicator B. The difference lies in the mastery and expertise of the user of whatever indicator. The problem I have with George and his inner family is their unsubstantiated claim that George is the best trader on the planet hence by inference his MM manipulation psychology methodology is the best technical...
and i feel the same way
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  • #28
  • Jun 22, 2019 2:14am Jun 22, 2019 2:14am
Quoting Aussi
{quote} untrue read the questions i have not banned George no cult will be tolerated the questions are valid so why did you come
I have high regards for your analysis of fundamentals and if you can further teach its usage, it will benefit serious learners and not those wanting to gossipping and engaging in social chit chats.

Another sulking George in the making comment was in reference to a thread opener whose link you mentioned and I specifically quoted that link in my remarks.

I am sorry it created misunderstanding.
Practice makes a person perfect
  • #29
  • Jun 22, 2019 2:17am Jun 22, 2019 2:17am
Quoting simnz
{quote} I have high regards for your analysis of fundamentals and if you can further teach its usage, it will benefit serious learners and not those wanting to gossipping and engaging in social chit chats. Another sulking George in the making comment was in reference to a thread opener whose link you mentioned and I specifically quoted that link in my remarks. I am sorry it created misunderstanding.
Simnz, in a way you are correct. I think with the shutting down of George thread, all parties make their final say and move on from this ugly episode. Lets all return to trading related matters.
  • #30
  • Jun 22, 2019 2:28am Jun 22, 2019 2:28am
Quoting simnz
{quote} I have high regards for your analysis of fundamentals and if you can further teach its usage, it will benefit serious learners and not those wanting to gossipping and engaging in social chit chats. Another sulking George in the making comment was in reference to a thread opener whose link you mentioned and I specifically quoted that link in my remarks. I am sorry it created misunderstanding.
i understand mate and sorry is not necessary chit chat is what its about and learning more
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  • #31
  • Jun 22, 2019 2:29am Jun 22, 2019 2:29am
Quoting skyway
{quote} Simnz, in a way you are correct. I think with the shutting down of George thread, all parties make their final say and move on from this ugly episode. Lets all return to trading related matters.

to true mate
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  • #32
  • Jun 22, 2019 5:14am Jun 22, 2019 5:14am
Quoting Aussi
{quote} over my years i have looked at thousands of indicators and tested them well most i discounted included the tma,s but again i have spoken to people who use and swear they are good where other say they are not so i guess its in the eye of the holder i have looked a hundreds of ea,s and you are right "Everyone goes crazy when it "works" but nobody cares when it fails and if you look at it you will notice that it often fails and fails hard" and thats the reality of it the hype the promises of quick rich,s
Evening All,
Like Aussi and many other folks I too have tested thousands of indicators over many years and in the end most have been of no value to me but this does not say that some folks have not found some value with their with their own modifications to certain indicators.
TMA is in the spotlight at present with different modifications.....Sure it does re-paint but I have been using a basic version on my Renko charts for years and have found it useful when looking for areas of probability....Far more learned people than myself have now presented different versions for testing .....I believe that if used on longer t/frames and larger Renko bricks there may be of some value but I guess time will tell...One must remember that the markets do change over the years.........Charts are only as good as the user in my humble opinion
R
Ronnie Renko
  • #33
  • Jun 22, 2019 5:23am Jun 22, 2019 5:23am
Quoting Ced74
{quote} Evening All, Like Aussi and many other folks I too have tested thousands of indicators over many years and in the end most have been of no value to me but this does not say that some folks have not found some value with their with their own modifications to certain indicators. TMA is in the spotlight at present with different modifications.....Sure it does re-paint but I have been using a basic version on my Renko charts for years and have found it useful when looking for areas of probability....Far more learned people than myself have now...
your humble opinion is worth a truck of gold
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  • #34
  • Jun 22, 2019 6:05am Jun 22, 2019 6:05am
Quoting Ced74
{quote} Evening All, Like Aussi and many other folks I too have tested thousands of indicators over many years and in the end most have been of no value to me but this does not say that some folks have not found some value with their with their own modifications to certain indicators. TMA is in the spotlight at present with different modifications.....Sure it does re-paint but I have been using a basic version on my Renko charts for years and have found it useful when looking for areas of probability....Far more learned people than myself have now...
i was posting these for Vee a short while back,
and maybe you would find it useful:
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=12337878#post12337878
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=12339381#post12339381
it isnt geared toward the longer TF or larger renko, so, even more likely to help.
in summary, bar to bar there is virtually no or so little change that the change itself should not influence the base and the validity of the decision.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #35
  • Jun 22, 2019 7:03am Jun 22, 2019 7:03am
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote} i was posting these for Vee a short while back, and maybe you would find it useful: https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=12337878#post12337878 https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=12339381#post12339381 it isnt geared toward the longer TF or larger renko, so, even more likely to help. in summary, bar to bar there is virtually no or so little change that the change itself should not influence the base and the validity of the decision.
thank you mate
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  • #36
  • Jun 22, 2019 7:04am Jun 22, 2019 7:04am
my bed time will be back in the morning to a -1 frost
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  • #37
  • Jun 22, 2019 7:05am Jun 22, 2019 7:05am
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  • #38
  • Jun 22, 2019 4:22pm Jun 22, 2019 4:22pm
a new day so cold out side well we see what happens
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  • #39
  • Jun 22, 2019 5:11pm Jun 22, 2019 5:11pm
i have found it and so watch out they are out their and a waste of your money i left out the screen shots, all i did was do a search so again watch out for their hype

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  • #40
  • Jun 22, 2019 5:12pm Jun 22, 2019 5:12pm
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