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  • #4,781
  • Jun 16, 2019 5:57pm Jun 16, 2019 5:57pm
Quoting seller9
Winning Trade Example: {image}
Yes that's almost a perfect trade there.
  • #4,782
  • Jun 16, 2019 6:04pm Jun 16, 2019 6:04pm
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} That is correct to what I proposed and yes that trade would have been a looser because of the extra exit Rule, that might have been expected there though because it was a big Pull Back. Price closing the wrong side of the Kijun would be my normal exit, there is an alternative that can also be used if the Kijun Rule proves to be too quick: Close price goes beyond the last Fractal High level for short (Fractal Low for long) or price Closes in the cloud.
OK

So far I have 4 tests set up and will start them all in a little while, all using same settings.

1) Original v6 with 200ma
2) v6i with my original Ichimoku
3) v6i2 with your Ichimoku ideas with Kijun Sen Exit
4) v6i2 with your Ichimoku ideas and no Kijun Sen Exit

I think I will see if I can get one more coded with the fractal SL to see what it does.
  • #4,783
  • Jun 16, 2019 6:05pm Jun 16, 2019 6:05pm
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} Yes that's almost a perfect trade there.
Almost perfect, whats missing?
  • #4,784
  • Jun 16, 2019 6:29pm Jun 16, 2019 6:29pm
Quoting seller9
{quote} Almost perfect, whats missing?
Profit AddOns....LOL
  • #4,785
  • Jun 16, 2019 6:31pm Jun 16, 2019 6:31pm
Quoting seller9
{quote} OK So far I have 4 tests set up and will start them all in a little while, all using same settings. 1) Original v6 with 200ma 2) v6i with my original Ichimoku 3) v6i2 with your Ichimoku ideas with Kijun Sen Exit 4) v6i2 with your Ichimoku ideas and no Kijun Sen Exit I think I will see if I can get one more coded with the fractal SL to see what it does.
If you use 4) I would propose Price closing inside the Cloud as a safety net Exit.

PS: You could use Price closing inside the Cloud as a safety net Exit for any of the proposed set of rules.
  • #4,786
  • Jun 16, 2019 7:02pm Jun 16, 2019 7:02pm
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} If you use 4) I would propose Price closing inside the Cloud as a safety net Exit. PS: You could use Price closing inside the Cloud as a safety net Exit for any of the proposed set of rules.
Will see how things go with these tests first and see if we need further safety nets.

Just coded in the Fractal SL so will see if it works or I screwed it up.

So 5 tests running and will all start in 1 minute, 19:02:00 CST.

Place your bets
  • #4,787
  • Jun 16, 2019 7:27pm Jun 16, 2019 7:27pm
Quoting seller9
{quote} Will see how things go with these tests first and see if we need further safety nets. Just coded in the Fractal SL so will see if it works or I screwed it up. So 5 tests running and will all start in 1 minute, 19:02:00 CST. Place your bets
My bets are:

1) Original v6 with 200ma : lots of trades, with sometimes large DD, probably the biggest Profit though.
2) v6i with my original Ichimoku : less trades than 1), expecting DD not as large nor spiky (unless red news events), possible issue with no safety net Exit.
3) v6i2 with your Ichimoku ideas with Kijun Sen Exit : less trades than 2), expecting low DD and a few long runs.
4) v6i2 with your Ichimoku ideas and no Kijun Sen Exit : similar number of trades to 3), but could blow out DD if no Ball 3 exits and no safety net.
5) v6i2 with your Ichimoku ideas and Fractal Level exit : similar number of trades to 3), less likely to need a safety net than 4).

Bets are on, this will be very interesting.
  • #4,788
  • Edited 11:46pm Jun 16, 2019 8:30pm | Edited 11:46pm
Quoting seller9
{quote} Will see how things go with these tests first and see if we need further safety nets. Just coded in the Fractal SL so will see if it works or I screwed it up. So 5 tests running and will all start in 1 minute, 19:02:00 CST. Place your bets
BTW I've been working on a similar BOT on the TradingView platform with similar rules to what I proposed here, but it will also include the Kumo Breakout as an entry and instead of the Semaphore Balls I'm using Fractal Highs/Lows. The Kumo Breakout is considered the highest probability technique available with the Ichimoku. I'll let you know how it goes.

UPDATE: Here's the first draft of the BOT/indicator that I'm working on, the highlighted vertical line is a Kumo breakout and the Aqua/Fuchsia triangles are the Trend Continue entries or re-entries, which could be trade addons as well. Notice how a lot of sideways action was avoided, I have a few extra rules in this idea, in this example I'm using 3 candle Pivots/Fractals instead of the usual 5.

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Next step is to add the trade automation controls, with TradingView there is no DashBoard possibilities so no Basket/Group SL/TP options are available.

I'm only including this work here because my Cycle-v6i2 proposed rules are based on the idea.
  • #4,789
  • Jun 16, 2019 9:33pm Jun 16, 2019 9:33pm
I have forgotten everything I didn't know about the ichi so I am not in a position to comment on any type of strategy but some interesting developments happening here over the weekend.
Might have to brush up on the rules again........
  • #4,790
  • Jun 17, 2019 12:38am Jun 17, 2019 12:38am
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} That is why I proposed the second rule for Exit condition: to exit trade when price closes the wrong side of the Kijun Sen. With the other rules we have Price will always cross the Kijun Sen before it get's to the cloud, so there is no SL requirement.
ok i understand now .
When the internal struggle ends, everything becomes easy - Mr. Douglas
  • #4,791
  • Jun 17, 2019 12:45am Jun 17, 2019 12:45am
Quoting seller9
{quote} Will see how things go with these tests first and see if we need further safety nets. Just coded in the Fractal SL so will see if it works or I screwed it up. So 5 tests running and will all start in 1 minute, 19:02:00 CST. Place your bets
i would like to bet on 1 and 4.
When the internal struggle ends, everything becomes easy - Mr. Douglas
  • #4,792
  • Jun 17, 2019 1:35am Jun 17, 2019 1:35am
Quoting Pip Poppy
I have forgotten everything I didn't know about the ichi so I am not in a position to comment on any type of strategy but some interesting developments happening here over the weekend. Might have to brush up on the rules again........
Same here, have never traded using Ichimoku. Need to study this.
Seeing interesting progress going on here with the new TS.
  • #4,793
  • Jun 17, 2019 2:32am Jun 17, 2019 2:32am
Quoting seller9
{quote} Almost perfect, whats missing?
Only ARROW Missing is so simple because it give you direction of the market.
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  • #4,794
  • Edited 3:10am Jun 17, 2019 2:50am | Edited 3:10am
My confirmation is Ball 4 straight line with Semafor it gave me 100% confirmation, followed by Ball 1 and Arrow to enter.

AND Another thing if you want perfect confirmation wait for arrow for 4hour chart to appear, then set you setting of period on four hour are use 18 period and one hour I use 36 period
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  • #4,795
  • Jun 17, 2019 3:22am Jun 17, 2019 3:22am
4 hour is 99% confirmation to 1 hour chart. The setting of period must not be same.
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  • #4,796
  • Jun 17, 2019 3:34am Jun 17, 2019 3:34am
Here is another trade 4hour confirmed to one hour chart that you can go long.
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  • #4,797
  • Jun 17, 2019 3:46am Jun 17, 2019 3:46am
Quoting JojajoForex
Gold went against Me I made huge mistake to buy Gold but it's look like it will go short next week. {image}

GOLD PULL BACK TO GREEN PIPS ARROW CONFIRM THAT I can go for short, last week I Made a mistake but this week is my week for GOLD
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  • #4,798
  • Jun 17, 2019 4:44pm Jun 17, 2019 4:44pm
Quoting seller9
Food for thought: {image} Live example; {image}
Hi Gene,

looks good and give another tool in the box to use as exits/backstops etc. I guess it would be a case of trialing all these settings as usual and fine tuning. I have found in testing there is that fine line between giving the trades enough room to breathe and cutting your losses and looking for a better opportunity. I feel with the higher probability trades that it might be a case if cutting the losses and getting into the next trade sooner rather than later but testing will tell us.

Great work and its coming together nicely nicely and I feel it will end up a very powerful tool!

Matt
  • #4,799
  • Jun 17, 2019 5:14pm Jun 17, 2019 5:14pm
Quoting seller9
Food for thought: {image} Live example; {image}
As long as the Support and Resistance are Dynamic and change with the trend (or non-trend), that sounds like it could work, I'm not a fan of limiting the Target that way though, I would rather use the Target Line as some sort trailing target start point.

PS: Isn't the MA also a dynamic S/R line already?
  • #4,800
  • Jun 17, 2019 5:19pm Jun 17, 2019 5:19pm
Quoting seller9
Here is the pip leader so far today, I won't tell you who it is. You don't have to play all 28, do what Earle is doing and play just the big movers which at this time seem to be the GBP pairs. {image} {image}
Interesting that despite a few large loosing pairs the trading is still well ahead. Great result.
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