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  • #581
  • May 21, 2019 9:56am May 21, 2019 9:56am
Quoting FXsniper111
What kind of system/EA are you trading now Cubby i can see you have one buy and one sell with 10 pips TP in different directions are you doing grids at 10 pips with 10 pips TP on each possision ore what???
looks like simple revenge trading at the moment (with 148 Leverage in one trade alone), what he is doing. he looks like he trades martingale long time and never did grow out from this level and still try to find a way after failing long time and often, still making mistakes like revenge trading and trading without SL and optimized backtest (there you always have extrem wins, when you program your expert that its maches the past) ... this can not work for future trading without a good trading system with logic background...
  • #582
  • May 21, 2019 10:06am May 21, 2019 10:06am
Quoting PowerMoon
{quote} looks like simple revenge trading at the moment (with 148 Leverage in one trade alone), what he is doing. he looks like he trades martingale long time and never did grow out from this level and still try to find a way after failing long time and often, still making mistakes like revenge trading and trading without SL and optimized backtest (there you always have extrem wins, when you program your expert that its maches the past) ... this can not work for future trading without a good trading system with logic background...
Well hes up 50% now on a 1 lot trade on gcad so may take some back if he can close with good profits,but i agree this is revenge trading without a bigger plan..
Insanityoing same ting over expecting different results..Einstein
  • #583
  • May 21, 2019 10:09am May 21, 2019 10:09am
This is such a stupid style of trading revenge trading . Good luck.


Cheers

Jeff
I EAT PIPS
  • #584
  • May 21, 2019 10:13am May 21, 2019 10:13am
Quoting PowerMoon
{quote} looks like simple revenge trading at the moment (with 148 Leverage in one trade alone), what he is doing. he looks like he trades martingale long time and never did grow out from this level and still try to find a way after failing long time and often, still making mistakes like revenge trading and trading without SL and optimized backtest (there you always have extrem wins, when you program your expert that its maches the past) ... this can not work for future trading without a good trading system with logic background...
Because of my trade risk size, this could be considered revenge trading.

Still, A couple of good factors to back up the entry here...


1. I had to close my EA trades out because of my risk level near and around 1.70 on the GBPCAD. My account could have margined there when price hit 1.72.

2. I suspected a bounce at 1.70 but only technical which I got. (This is a strong level)

3. I got in pretty early on the the potential larger move here.

4. Now, we're getting some fundamental on top of this 1.70 price level. Yes, my risk is on the higher side with this one trade but a lot of criteria is stacking up for a really good position here.

5. With the technical and fundamental shaping up, I will ride this carefully.


We could get a full recovery on the GBPCAD to close out all the EA trades for those that are still holding. Mean while, I may be able to catch a full recovery as well.

Wait and see...
  • #585
  • May 21, 2019 10:15am May 21, 2019 10:15am
Quoting FXsniper111
{quote} Well hes up 50% now on a 1 lot trade on gcad so may take some back if he can close with good profits,but i agree this is revenge trading without a bigger plan..
you cant calculate so , but of course anything you say is true (he played kill account or get in play again)

this was 100% luck trade because of simple news, other news and same move in other direction (even smaller ) and he would be margin called already.

revenge trading is always beginner style... often possible to see this with martingale players as related mistake.

worst case is , you have luck with revenge first time .. and lose later even bigger and learn lesson later... because he will trade always this style and lose again and again ... failing in this trading style is so programmed when he dont grow ... trading is not business case for not reflecting yourself and do beginner mistakes again and again... people trading other money like to do so very often , maybe he traded to often other money and lost and still thatshwy have this believing, his mistakes are ok as trading style (because he did not cost his money), to often possible to see this in the trading market.. and most of this people use then martingale..
  • #586
  • May 21, 2019 10:22am May 21, 2019 10:22am
Quoting Cubbybgood
{quote} Because of my trade risk size, this could be considered revenge trading. Still, A couple of good factors to back up the entry here... 1. I had to close my EA trades out because of my risk level near and around 1.70 on the GBPCAD. My account could have margined there when price hit 1.72. 2. I suspected a bounce at 1.70 but only technical which I got. (This is a strong level) 3. I got in pretty early on the the potential larger move here. 4. Now, we're getting some fundamental on top of this 1.70 price level. Yes, my risk is on the higher...
but only the big GBP news helped, nothing technical... its news driven GBP in this days... so people trying technical playing are lucky, but really they see not what is happening....

but in all my words... i wish you luck with this trade... but really grow on it... you cant survive with this style often.
  • #587
  • May 21, 2019 10:23am May 21, 2019 10:23am
Moving my SL to BE on this 1 lot GBPCAD trade...

If this 1 lot GBPCAD trade moves to my BE point, I will not try another recovery trade like this. This is a 1 shot chance to catch this GBP recovery move here.

I do have a recover strategy in place after this trade closes for profit or BE. The plan DOES NOT include ANY 1 lot trades!
  • #588
  • May 21, 2019 10:30am May 21, 2019 10:30am
I've been an observer for many years. Ryan your intentions may be good but I think you need more time away from Forex to think before you post things like this and what kind of outcomes it has on people using this site. Here are some of my criticisms:

1. You screwed a lot of people over on another forex site when you ran a signal. I don't think you learned from this.

2. I think when someone was going to test your EA you said "....it's good to go". This person, if he went live would be in big DD now or cut his losses. You clearly over stated the capabilities of your EA. Dangerous here on FF as there are a lot of newbies that just want to make quick money.

3. You didn't put a lot of money on your real live account. If in fact your EA has been successful for so many years you should have a lot more.

4. You can't use Brexit as an excuse. Everyone knows the volatility of the Pound long before you introduced your EA.


Take this with a grain of salt but I think these are good points. All the best to you.
  • #589
  • May 21, 2019 10:45am May 21, 2019 10:45am
Quoting dbdan
I've been an observer for many years. Ryan your intentions may be good but I think you need more time away from Forex to think before you post things like this and what kind of outcomes it has on people using this site. Here are some of my criticisms: 1. You screwed a lot of people over on another forex site when you ran a signal. I don't think you learned from this. 2. I think when someone was going to test your EA you said "....it's good to go". This person, if he went live would be in big DD now or cut his losses. You clearly over stated the...

this is what I got from my DEMO account.

I still thinking why I got 44% profit while everyone losing.

maybe broker matters?

13 trades from EA only 3 loss

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  • #590
  • Edited 10:56am May 21, 2019 10:46am | Edited 10:56am
Quoting dbdan
I've been an observer for many years. Ryan your intentions may be good but I think you need more time away from Forex to think before you post things like this and what kind of outcomes it has on people using this site. Here are some of my criticisms: 1. You screwed a lot of people over on another forex site when you ran a signal. I don't think you learned from this. 2. I think when someone was going to test your EA you said "....it's good to go". This person, if he went live would be in big DD now or cut his losses. You clearly over stated the...
for me , it looks like that ryan is knowing, that he is still a bigger beginner (with a extrem low chance of win and sucess on the end) in trading and missed learning many basics and presents this EA, that he get some help to improve, and that he learn better what he did all wrong. maybe i see this wrong, but so its looks for me and so he presents a little bit.. its only a standard martingale expert you see day in day out in any place, killing peoples money on the end.

it dont look, that he ever was a successfull trader in past, and managing other people accounts with martingale experts without SL is always a big sign of big failing and not knowing what to trade and bad end some day.... so i am really sure, he want some help and know that he has to start from the beginning ,when he want be some day a winner.

at least people can learn from his many mistakes and grow together with him. a big plus is, he is honest and dont hide informations in trading.... and that is better then so many people do. he is thinking his Ea cant lose because of his low knowledge about backtesting only show history and expert advisor is changed that results is good for the history quotes.... by this trading styles this is total unimportant for future trading... there are many trading styles backtest is something worth, but not this simple martingale style.
  • #591
  • May 21, 2019 11:16am May 21, 2019 11:16am
Quoting Cubbybgood
This is a 1 shot chance to catch this GBP recovery move here. I do have a recover strategy in place after this trade closes for profit or BE. The plan DOES NOT include ANY 1 lot trades!
This is a big letdown for many people here I would guess. There is no excuse for revenge trading. All the chatter about the motivation is useless. NO ONE knows how quotes are developing based on a single trade. Matter of fact. No discussion. You have lost nearly all credibility doing so.

I am quoting my post some days ago: https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...1#post12281591

"EVERY grid will test your mindset sooner or later" - It did heavily. You have failed.
  • #592
  • May 21, 2019 11:30am May 21, 2019 11:30am
One good thing that came out of this, was the "blessing" that gbp drama happened early in the process. Not much time was lost and hopefully everybody can learn from this. I feel good that I have only observed this thing. I wish all the luck to everybody in the future and to cubby as well. Cheers!
The biggest risk is not taking a risk.
  • #593
  • May 21, 2019 11:36am May 21, 2019 11:36am
lets face it. cubby scammed everyone here. myself included. down 7k in live money. I put this on based on my friend finding it, but i questioned the motivation from beginning. if someone had a true holy grail non losing system, why the F@ck would they ever share it. also, why would he go back to school if it was so great. looking back, he also never showed the drawdown with the equity curve. cubby, time to take your ginger ass back to your step daddy so he can put you over his knee.

https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/...l-quick/169477
  • #594
  • May 21, 2019 11:42am May 21, 2019 11:42am
Quoting Cubbybgood
Moving my SL to BE on this 1 lot GBPCAD trade... If this 1 lot GBPCAD trade moves to my BE point, I will not try another recovery trade like this. This is a 1 shot chance to catch this GBP recovery move here. I do have a recover strategy in place after this trade closes for profit or BE. The plan DOES NOT include ANY 1 lot trades!
I would surely close the trade when at 68 pips in profit ore 50% gain....Why dint you buddy???


Edit my comment at you at 50% gain was exactly at that peak....
EDIT.Dont run away the EA is good very good just look at my results last 2 weeks 11-12 closes and 1.47% DD at max just need to use non correalating pairs like:AUD/USD,EUR/USD and EUR/AUD
Ore:USD/CAD,USD/JPY and CAD/JPY ore all 6 ore 10 like i do 3 different groups of non correalating..AND A CUTOFF where to put it needs live trading for testing at smallest lots 0.01...
EDIT:Also need not to use pairs with high ADR like:GCAD.GAUD,GJPY ore EUR/NZD and also others
Insanityoing same ting over expecting different results..Einstein
  • #595
  • May 21, 2019 11:50am May 21, 2019 11:50am
Quoting taint
lets face it. cubby scammed everyone here. myself included. down 7k in live money. I put this on based on my friend finding it, but i questioned the motivation from beginning. if someone had a true holy grail non losing system, why the F@ck would they ever share it. also, why would he go back to school if it was so great. looking back, he also never showed the drawdown with the equity curve. cubby, time to take your ginger ass back to your step daddy so he can put you over his knee. https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/...l-quick/169477...
Sorry, but you are an idiot for putting 13k at risk on something a friend recommended without testing or doing due diligence yourself.

You said in another post that you even used higher leverage than Cubby was using (and his trade sizes were already higher than he recommended any others to use). So you didn't even follow his directions.

You have no one to blame but yourself, buddy.
Prices are never too high to begin buying or too low to begin selling.
  • #596
  • May 21, 2019 11:55am May 21, 2019 11:55am
I still believe the strategy has great potential. However we need to find the 'best' settings which give a nice profit AND a low max drawdown
E.g. i've been doing some backtests as you can see here

Asset : ES-mini futures (in ninja trader 8)
Timeframe : 5 min. chart
Period : 300 days

As you can see, with the most aggressive settings we get a net profit of $740k, but the drawdown is 67%
After optimising the strategy for max profit & min drawdown.. we get a net profit of $440k and a drawdown of 5.18%
Now this is just 1 test and we should not draw any conclusions to this yet
But it shows that drawdown can be minimized while still getting nice profits.
So now we need to do more back-, forward- and live testing to find the optimal settings for each asset..
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  • #597
  • May 21, 2019 12:01pm May 21, 2019 12:01pm
Quoting ebeckers
I still believe the strategy has great potential. However we need to find the 'best' settings which give a nice profit AND a low max drawdown E.g. i've been doing some backtests as you can see here Asset : ES-mini futures (in ninja trader 8) Timeframe : 5 min. chart Period : 300 days As you can see, with the most aggressive settings we get a net profit of $740k, but the drawdown is 67% After optimising the strategy for max profit & min drawdown.. we get a net profit of $440k and a drawdown of 5.18% Now this is just 1 test and we should not draw...
What size of the account at the beginning with only 5+% DD??
EDIT:That means you could have a 10% cut off and never been hit in 300 days that is very good..
EDIT:Like i said earlier i have it running live now off 10 pairs and 0.01 lots and 5% cut off that is around 550 pips on a 1150 account..
Insanityoing same ting over expecting different results..Einstein
  • #598
  • May 21, 2019 12:04pm May 21, 2019 12:04pm
Quoting turtlefan
{quote} Sorry, but you are an idiot for putting 13k at risk on something a friend recommended without testing or doing due diligence yourself. You said in another post that you even used higher leverage than Cubby was using (and his trade sizes were already higher than he recommended any others to use). So you didn't even follow his directions. You have no one to blame but yourself, buddy.

I am not blaming anyone, and i am also not crying over the money. what i am pointing out is that there were holes in his story. as well, he wasn't completely honest. after it hit drawdown, he said this happened once before, yet it shows up nowhere on any info he provided. shame on me for trying it i agree, but i believe he was purposely deceiving in his materials he provided.

btw, i used the exact leverage is him. which is more than what he recommended. I am still in the trade. i didnt cut it like he did
  • #599
  • May 21, 2019 12:11pm May 21, 2019 12:11pm
Quoting FXsniper111
{quote} What size of the account at the beginning with only 5+% DD?? EDIT:That means you could have a 10% cut off and never been hit in 300 days that is very good..
For ES mini i used a account size of $10k since the tick value is $12.5 and tick size is 0.25
If however you decide to trade the micro e-mini futures you could start with a $1K account size since its the tick value is $1.25 and tick size is 0.25
Will see if i can find some more gbpcad price data to do the same test with that currency pair
  • #600
  • May 21, 2019 12:13pm May 21, 2019 12:13pm
Quoting ebeckers
{quote} For ES mini i used a start account of $10k since the tick value is $12.5 and tick size is 0.25 If you however trade the micro e-mini futures you could use a $1K account since there the tick value is $1.25 and tick size is 0.25 Will see if i can find some more gbpcad price data to do the same test with that currency pair
Ore a different pairs all together with a lot lower AWERAGE ADR...


EDIT and there you where out at BE cubby when you could have banked almost 500 dollars recovery at peak..
Insanityoing same ting over expecting different results..Einstein
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