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  • #17,561
  • Mar 25, 2019 10:28pm Mar 25, 2019 10:28pm
May I ask what is the logic behind the period multiplier and the slow and fast period? Thanks. Where can we read?
  • #17,562
  • Mar 25, 2019 11:25pm Mar 25, 2019 11:25pm
Quoting xmess7
{quote} mirzal: One question.. since you have a basket running for days that means that you have set the DailyGMTCloseHour to "-", RIGHT? Otherwise the EA will close any basket at whatever GMT hour is set in the input DailyGMTCloseHour. Thnx
Hi jess
im think The EA Trail Stop is Error.
before im go to work my possition is + 11% and at the bottom said ProfitLock 8%.
but after im went home, my posstion close +2.5% as you can see at picture
is that any bugs?
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  • #17,563
  • Mar 25, 2019 11:51pm Mar 25, 2019 11:51pm
Xmess site is down. Does anyone have the latest EA version?
  • #17,564
  • Mar 26, 2019 7:26am Mar 26, 2019 7:26am
Quoting clemmo17
Xmess site is down. Does anyone have the latest EA version?



clemmo17 hello. Are you still having issues seeing the site? Make sure to use the links. The only time you should see a blank page is if you try to access xm7.nfo/ea (I did that on purpose, for now). Otherwise the xm7.info/ccfp_weekly/latest is working. Let me know if you still have issues.

Thnx
Jess
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  • #17,565
  • Mar 26, 2019 7:41am Mar 26, 2019 7:41am
Quoting HengkiTjen
{quote} Hi jess im think The EA Trail Stop is Error. before im go to work my possition is + 11% and at the bottom said ProfitLock 8%. but after im went home, my posstion close +2.5% as you can see at picture is that any bugs? {image} {image}
HengkiTjen:
according to the Day% your basket was stopped out at 8.64%, which would correspond to the status you had seen before you went to work. You can verify that your account grew +8.64% by looking at your account history. please double check and see that the size of your account has increased by 8.64%.
As for the ending % of 2.5%. That is something I will need to re-examine.

In general I do expect that value to change but not by as much as you see (8.64%-2.5%). The reason is this. At the moment the EA captures the % GAIN that you want it to close the basket, the EA stops recording the % gain, it concentrates on solely closing the baskets, once the basket is totally closed then the EA continues to keep track of the basket GAIN. What can happen is that the EA captures values that were stored before it went to close the basket and thus you would see different values. On the other hand the %day, %week, %year are all calculated off of the AccountBalance. These are then more representative of what your account size is.

What I may have to do is that when the EA is closing the basket to have it assign the %GAIN as it closes each pair. This way when the basket close is completed the EA will have a %GAIN number that does not fluctuate.
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  • #17,566
  • Mar 26, 2019 11:54am Mar 26, 2019 11:54am
Quoting xmess7
{quote} HengkiTjen: according to the Day% your basket was stopped out at 8.64%, which would correspond to the status you had seen before you went to work. You can verify that your account grew +8.64% by looking at your account history. please double check and see that the size of your account has increased by 8.64%. As for the ending % of 2.5%. That is something I will need to re-examine. In general I do expect that value to change but not by as much as you see (8.64%-2.5%). The reason is this. At the moment the EA captures the % GAIN that you want...
Thanks for explaining Jess
I have picture what you said,
Is correct 8.64%-2.5%=6.1%
So I have correct Gain,
That being said using pips as trailing is much better ?
  • #17,567
  • Mar 26, 2019 12:12pm Mar 26, 2019 12:12pm
No trading the Tuesday basket on live for me today but I am running it on demo to see what if.

It looks like it was a good decision not to as after 5 hrs of trading it hasn't gone higher than 0.90% and DD went as high as -5.32%.

I'm still not sure whether its a good idea to run tomorrows basket live or not....
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  • #17,568
  • Mar 26, 2019 7:58pm Mar 26, 2019 7:58pm
Tuesday Basket (Using MRDFX's Tuesday Preset)

MT4 EA v44.9 (pepperstone)

EA: TP: 10% SL: 9%, LotsPerBalance 0.02/500, MaxTrades 8

Indicator: CMSM v19.01 level 4 @ PERIOD_W1

Profit for TODAY: -10.5%

Busy day for me, so this basket ran more than 10 hours until it broke LOL.

SOOOO WEDNESDAY HERE I COME !!!
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  • #17,569
  • Mar 26, 2019 7:59pm Mar 26, 2019 7:59pm
Quoting HengkiTjen
{quote} Thanks for explaining Jess I have picture what you said, Is correct 8.64%-2.5%=6.1% So I have correct Gain, That being said using pips as trailing is much better ?
Nope you have a gain of 8.64%. Not 6.1%.

Tell me did you trade several basket in this day or was it just one basket?
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  • #17,570
  • Mar 26, 2019 10:22pm Mar 26, 2019 10:22pm
Quoting xmess7
{quote} clemmo17 hello. Are you still having issues seeing the site? Make sure to use the links. The only time you should see a blank page is if you try to access xm7.nfo/ea (I did that on purpose, for now). Otherwise the xm7.info/ccfp_weekly/latest is working. Let me know if you still have issues. Thnx Jess
Yes, for some reason the site won't resolve for me. The 404 error message is
"The requested URL /ccfp_weekly/latest was not found on this server."

I can access the main site at xm7.info but none of the links will work for me either. Maybe it's a DNS problem on my end?
  • #17,571
  • Mar 26, 2019 10:51pm Mar 26, 2019 10:51pm
Quoting xmess7
{quote} Nope you have a gain of 8.64%. Not 6.1%. Tell me did you trade several basket in this day or was it just one basket?
Im only trade Monday and Wednesday
If gain 8,64% I'm recon some error calculation on trailing St
  • #17,572
  • Mar 27, 2019 10:35am Mar 27, 2019 10:35am
How can i open vbasket manualy? i need to start vbasket to let it trigger rbasket
  • #17,573
  • Mar 27, 2019 11:40am Mar 27, 2019 11:40am
No live trading the Wednesday basket for me today but I am running it on demo to see what if.

It looks like it was another good decision not to trade as its been ranging in and out of profit/DD since 10 am and currently in -5.27% DD.

I really can't wait for this market cycle to pass on so we can continue our successful trading weeks.
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  • #17,574
  • Mar 27, 2019 1:09pm Mar 27, 2019 1:09pm
Wednesday Basket (Using MRDFX's Tuesday Preset)

MT4 EA v44.9 (pepperstone)

EA: TP: 10% SL: 9%, LotsPerBalance 0.02/500, MaxTrades 8

Indicator: CMSM v19.01 level 4 @ PERIOD_W1

Profit for TODAY: +1.44%

FINALLY! I was able to log on and SEE PROFIT, CLOSE PROFIT LOL. I know these "times" are not what most expect, BUT just wait... cause when things go our way... all of this will be FORGOTTEN! With that SAID, THURDSAY HERE I COME !!!
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  • #17,575
  • Mar 27, 2019 1:58pm Mar 27, 2019 1:58pm
Quoting AlexeyRoss
How can i open vbasket manualy? i need to start vbasket to let it trigger rbasket
AlexeyRoss:
Hi, On order to open a virtual Basket "MANUALLY" what you can do is just set the GMTOpenHour to one minute in the future. Of course your inputs will be configured to open a virtualBasket. At the moment there is not manual button to open the virtual Basket, so this is the closes you can have it done "MANUALLY". If you need to close a virtual Basket in order to start it at a different time, click on the RESET button.

Jess
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  • #17,576
  • Mar 27, 2019 2:15pm Mar 27, 2019 2:15pm
Quoting HengkiTjen
{quote} Im only trade Monday and Wednesday If gain 8,64% I'm recon some error calculation on trailing St




Hi, well I don't know what else can be done. We have looked at this for many years now and the code has been updated many times to conform to the trailing stop feature. At this point the code is fairly pure in that I cannot make any more changes that would make it "better". Its like asking you to give me a better calculation of 1+1. You can't cause it's already in its purest form.

Based on what you show and how you are trading, your basket made 8.64% that day, which is in accordance to what you saw before you left to work. What I mean is since you saw you were at about 11% and your trailing was at 2% that means that your basket would close at about 9%. Now, I know 9% is not 8.64% but it makes sense cause remember you have a basket of trades and as the EA is closing each,, sometimes it takes time, sometimes one trade will not close and the ea has to come back and try again. So in all those tries the profit can go down. In other words its not instantaneous, the trades are not closed immediately as one would think. There is a sort of lag or delay. Sometimes it works against you like in your case, other times it work for you and adds profit to basket.

As for the 2.5% you see, again it's like I mentioned, once the EA starts to close the trades, the EA stops updating the GAIN display. So what you might see is an affect of once some trades are closed that the EA starts to track again the GAIN but by that time the GAIN could be a lot LOWER. Now I do expect that to change but not as much as it did with you. the difference (8.64.-2.5) 6.14% is considerable. So that is what I asked you to verify that your account had gone up by 8.64% and not 2.5%. Did you verify it?

To verify it just go the ACCOUNT HISTROY TAB and select the DATE when the trades happened. Then look for the trades that were opened at the SAME TIME and add them up. That total will tell you if you gained 8.64% or if it was less. You will need to remember what your balance was before the trades were taken.

Let me know to see if I need to pursue this anymore. so far I have not had any issues with the trail stop (% or pips) . If I get a chance I will post a video and demonstrate the operation of the trail stop in both pips and %.

PEACE Jess
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  • #17,577
  • Edited 6:23am Mar 28, 2019 1:21am | Edited 6:23am
Quoting xmess7
{quote} AlexeyRoss: Hi, On order to open a virtual Basket "MANUALLY" what you can do is just set the GMTOpenHour to one minute in the future. Of course your inputs will be configured to open a virtualBasket. At the moment there is not manual button to open the virtual Basket, so this is the closes you can have it done "MANUALLY". If you need to close a virtual Basket in order to start it at a different time, click on the RESET button. Jess
Thank you for your answer, experimenting with settings, reversal signals and others, but seems yesterday was really terrible day for basket trading


Seems you guys are trading this system for a long time, so maybe you could share a set file with common settings for weekly and daily trading. I am using CMSM v21.05. Like the negative vb trigger.


Im thinking about individual trades to add stop loss maybe +-10, what's your opinion about this? Could this method minimize DD?

and what means use bbsqueeze?
  • #17,578
  • Mar 28, 2019 8:40am Mar 28, 2019 8:40am
Thursday Basket (Using MRDFX's Tuesday Preset)

MT4 EA v44.9 (pepperstone)

EA: TP: 5% SL: 9%, LotsPerBalance 0.02/500, MaxTrades 8

Indicator: CMSM v19.01 level 4 @ PERIOD_W1


Profit for TODAY: +0


Took a peak after an hour and vb did not trigger a real basket, vb was at it's lowest DD -144 pips, so hit the RESET button and done for the WEEK.

Next TUESDAY.... Here we COME!
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  • #17,579
  • Mar 28, 2019 9:02am Mar 28, 2019 9:02am
Quoting xmess7
Thursday Basket (Using MRDFX's Tuesday Preset) MT4 EA v44.9 (pepperstone) EA: TP: 5% SL: 9%, LotsPerBalance 0.02/500, MaxTrades 8 Indicator: CMSM v19.01 level 4 @ PERIOD_W1 Profit for TODAY: +0 Took a peak after an hour and vb did not trigger a real basket, vb was at it's lowest DD -144 pips, so hit the RESET button and done for the WEEK. Next TUESDAY.... Here we COME! {image}
Jess is there any particular reason why you have stopped trading Monday's and also only using v19.01 instead of v17.01?
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  • #17,580
  • Mar 28, 2019 9:13am Mar 28, 2019 9:13am
Quoting AlexeyRoss
{quote} Thank you for your answer, experimenting with settings, reversal signals and others, but seems yesterday was really terrible day for basket trading Seems you guys are trading this system for a long time, so maybe you could share a set file with common settings for weekly and daily trading. I am using CMSM v21.05. Like the negative vb trigger. Im thinking about individual trades to add stop loss maybe +-10, what's your opinion about this? Could this method minimize DD? and what means use bbsqueeze?
Hi, I don't think anyone has found a profitable daily preset. The presets listed on page one are mainly for weekly settings. From what I recall folks that have attempted to use the individual Stop Losses have not had any consistent results in terms of controlling DD. Also, I've yet to see anyone produce a preset that contains individual stop losses that is consistent and profitable.

The BBSqueeze is part of the filter criteria. A user was using it to FILTER the trade suggestions. That I know of, there has been no consistent or profitable use for it. IF someone is using it, they have not revealed any results or if it helps filtering the trade pairs.

Based on what I have observed, I have employed an approach to close out the basket(real or virtual) in order to control as much as possible the DD. The basic observation is that when the market is in our favor and the indicator suggestion line up correctly the basket hits TP within about an hour, give or take 15 minutes. Otherwise, its best to just close the basket and wait for the next attempt. This is ever so more evident than what has happened in the last two weeks. Yes, I took a couple of losses (-10% 2 times) but in reality I could of completely avoided them and actually had a gain of +7% if I had followed the process I outline below LOL. I know this cause there were instances BEFORE the basket fell that I did get a glimpse and saw that the basket profit was positive. Usually I CLOSE when I SEE PROFIT but I decide to let the baskets run to see what could happen. Well the results just confirm that the process would of helped ALOT!! So it wasn't the Market it was me that allowed the Losses to happen and that is ok cause it means that I have a little bit of control LOL


So with that said here is my process for controlling DD:
I use MRDFXs weekly preset with my adjustments (lots/balance, TP 10%, SL 9%, Trade Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Manual StopLock = 4.5%). I then follow (or try too LOL) the following process.

After about an hour after the vBasket has opened I will look for the following:
- if vBasket has not triggered a real Basket then I hit RESET and call it day
-if real Basket is opened and DD <-2%, close the basket and call it a day
-if real Basket is opened and profit >4.5% (Lock has been activated), leave basket open. Will take note of when it was opened & check it an hour after that.
-if after one hour the real basket has not hit TP, Close basket and call it a day.

The last couple of weeks have been very busy for me so I have neglected to check the baskets or to take action when I do. In addition the inputs do include a feature that allows you to tell the EA to check after X hours what the status of the balance is. I have not bothered to set that LOL. Well in reality, it's limited, cause the feature only considers looking at the DD and gain vs where I want to also include the status of the virtual basket. So in order for the EA to emulate the above process I need to add some more logic to the code. Once that is in place the EA will be able to emulate the operation I mention above.

PEACE
Jess
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