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  • #10,701
  • Jan 3, 2019 11:19am Jan 3, 2019 11:19am
ENJOY:


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www.sme-fx.com
  • #10,702
  • Jan 3, 2019 11:51am Jan 3, 2019 11:51am
Quoting FractalFreak
" Frac, What did you mean when you wrote. The house of the liar burned. But nobody wanted to believe him. Safe JD" Think about it. FF
Frac

Can you please answer, there are multiple answers.

JD
  • #10,703
  • Jan 3, 2019 11:58am Jan 3, 2019 11:58am
Frac

I have looked through your previous posts several times now.

I do not see a prediction of a Flash Crash?

Am I missing something?

Safe
JD
  • #10,704
  • Jan 3, 2019 12:52pm Jan 3, 2019 12:52pm
Quoting LeanhoneyJD
Frac I have looked through your previous posts several times now. I do not see a prediction of a Flash Crash? Am I missing something? Safe JD
Well I believe if you apply these rules and trade with your real money you might miss them.

You can also pay FF some amount for training, this will be a good experience for you. Pay him, study under him, and then go back here as a pro, experienced, wealthy trader. Experience is a form of wealth too.
  • #10,705
  • Jan 3, 2019 12:56pm Jan 3, 2019 12:56pm
Quoting Fred-IV
{quote} Well I believe if you apply these rules and trade with your real money you might miss them. You can also pay FF some amount for training, this will be a good experience for you. Pay him, study under him, and then go back here as a pro, experienced, wealthy trader. Experience is a form of wealth too.
If you just followed the trend you would of made money.
  • #10,706
  • Jan 3, 2019 1:10pm Jan 3, 2019 1:10pm
Quoting FractalFreak
ENJOY: https://www.youtube.com/watch
I devoted some time to wath this video about "flash crash" manipulation and it is quite funny. As I understand that the main explanation is that it was a stop hunting.

But in some cases FF doesnt explain the location of the stops and additionally when "dumb money" put stops thay do it in quite different places, crash didnt reach them, just look at the charts.

The second issue is that every strategy should have an edge, some kind of predictive power, and is there any in FF approach? Can he foresee such an event - I mean in advance?

And can he use these levels to form a series of decent setups that bring real money? If not, then this is only another conspiracy theory explaining why people lose money, but always after the event, so for trading purposes it is useless. I might be wrong,maybe there is something, but after reading several pages and listening to FF "explanations" it all looks suspicious.

I might be wrong but after this training you may better understand why you lose money. Of course this "understanding" will be false.
  • #10,707
  • Jan 3, 2019 1:12pm Jan 3, 2019 1:12pm
AUDCAD Daily, Explain that one Frac
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  • #10,708
  • Jan 3, 2019 1:14pm Jan 3, 2019 1:14pm
Quoting LeanhoneyJD
{quote} If you just followed the trend you would of made money.
So what is the great revelation here, the mysterious secret, is it "if you follow the trend you will make money"?

Show me please exactly where FF pointed that we should follow these local downtrends on H4?

Because, I hope you understand, that his system would be worth something.
  • #10,709
  • Jan 3, 2019 1:21pm Jan 3, 2019 1:21pm
Quoting LeanhoneyJD
AUDCAD Daily, Explain that one Frac {image}
This one is quite easy (the other are not).

A large pack of stops are accumulated below the low - so there is accumulated demand there, sudden, strong sell move hit demand there, might be that the biggest traders used this to enter big positions there. However the main question is can you foresse that event using FF theories/indis? Can you profit from it?
I strongly suggest - buy his training and find the answer for yourself, and us of course
  • #10,710
  • Jan 3, 2019 1:21pm Jan 3, 2019 1:21pm
Quoting LeanhoneyJD
{quote} If you just followed the trend you would of made money.
CORRECT.

What new revelation has FF brought to the table ? Apart from the obvious after the fact analysis. Anyone can do that.

If he would have stated that this event was likely to occur last Friday, then I would take my hat off to him.

No retail trader in his right mind would be holding a trade over the weekend, these traders that got burned were SM taken out by bigger SM's.

The SM can be SM/DM whenever they feel like it, after all it is OPM. (Other Peoples' Money).

I would say 90% of SM are probably DM.
It never gets easier, you just get better
  • #10,711
  • Jan 3, 2019 1:27pm Jan 3, 2019 1:27pm
Quoting Fred-IV
{quote} This one is quite easy (the other are not). A large pack of stops are accumulated below the low - so there is accumulated demand there, sudden, strong sell move hit demand there, might be that the biggest traders used this to enter big positions there. However the main question is can you foresse that event using FF theories/indis? Can you profit from it? I strongly suggest - buy his training and find the answer for yourself, and us of course
Happy New Year Fred
  • #10,712
  • Jan 3, 2019 1:31pm Jan 3, 2019 1:31pm
Quoting Fred-IV
{quote} This one is quite easy (the other are not). A large pack of stops are accumulated below the low - so there is accumulated demand there, sudden, strong sell move hit demand there, might be that the biggest traders used this to enter big positions there. However the main question is can you foresse that event using FF theories/indis? Can you profit from it? I strongly suggest - buy his training and find the answer for yourself, and us of course
The chart I showed you shows longs in green, shorts in red.
  • #10,713
  • Jan 3, 2019 1:38pm Jan 3, 2019 1:38pm
Quoting Fred-IV
{quote} So what is the great revelation here, the mysterious secret, is it "if you follow the trend you will make money"? Show me please exactly where FF pointed that we should follow these local downtrends on H4? Because, I hope you understand, that his system would be worth something.
No Revelation at all Mr IV.

No indicators either.
  • #10,714
  • Jan 3, 2019 1:46pm Jan 3, 2019 1:46pm
Quoting LeanhoneyJD
{quote} The chart I showed you shows longs in green, shorts in red.
Sounds like TT & FF style of trading, Going short on the way up to a loss of -300 pips and claiming a win when price falls below the entry @ 0.9475 by 10 pips.

No Stoploss or TP of course. Seat of the pants stuff.
It never gets easier, you just get better
  • #10,715
  • Jan 3, 2019 1:51pm Jan 3, 2019 1:51pm
Quoting Shabs19
{quote} Sounds like TT & FF style of trading, Going short on the way up to a loss of -300 pips and claiming a win when price falls below the entry by 10 pips.
it looks like dumb money bought the bottom of the drop to me. they were on the right side?
  • #10,716
  • Jan 3, 2019 2:40pm Jan 3, 2019 2:40pm
Quoting LeanhoneyJD
{quote} If you just followed the trend you would of made money.
Thats right, anyone who knows the Aussie or Asian currencies would have made a lot of money on this god send.
  • #10,717
  • Jan 3, 2019 3:51pm Jan 3, 2019 3:51pm
Quoting Nudge
{quote} Thats right, anyone who knows the Aussie or Asian currencies would have made a lot of money on this god send.

Hi Nudge, well done mate. I could only watch AUDNZD do what it did yesterday in AWE lol - in a 5min burst (at the S&D run or the SM process ?)
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  • #10,718
  • Jan 3, 2019 3:52pm Jan 3, 2019 3:52pm
Another story though.

Everyone uses thinking, yes. But not so many use what I call Hard Thinking.

Hard thinking is not just scratching your head a few more times lol. It is the process of looking at what you are thinking about & examining it from BOTH sides of the argument. Both sides, think about that, lol.

So many in FX use the phrase Supply & Demand. It is a major part of many methods of trading and of understanding where buyers & sellers might be sitting and waiting to come in and move (reverse?) price direction.

But is the PROCESS that is seen as S&D also a phrase of common acceptance like, say, the word “tree” (and SM of course).

The word tree has no empirical meaning. It is understood best by observation.

ie to explain the “word” tree to a child you are best to show them a picture or a real life tree rather than explain to them the molecules & atoms etc & the need for water, carbon & nitrogen that make up the tree (which is not so different from what a human needs also by the way).

So pointing to a tree and then naming it a tree, means the word tree has a common acceptance which we can use over and over to IDENTIFY a tree.

So just maybe the phrase S&D (or SM) is the “seeing of a repeated process” that groups of people have used as a word (like the word “tree”) to explain to each other what they saw.

Because to provide proof that an S&D area had actual institutional orders sitting there would require the sighting of those orders in an order book AT THAT TIME. Hard to do lol.

But the disruptors on this thread are saying Frac has no proof that SM is a repeatable process.

So those that still question the existence of the SM PROCESS, yet laud the S&D areas, could maybe even be speaking about the SAME sightings (but NOT calling it the same thing).

(After yesterdays runs on so many different & NON correlated pairs, ie AUDNZD lol , I have no doubts anymore – if I ever did – that the SM process is real, alive & ready to be kicked in whenever SM want – regardless of how many system orders are sitting and just waiting for price to touch & execute them).

So when we see S&D, or the SM process, and see similarities then WHY BOTHER coming onto this thread and disrupting it for months & months arguing over semantics. You either believe in SM and constructively add to this thread, or you believe in S&D and go to those threads and add constructively there.

It would be no different than Frac bothering to go onto ALL THE THREADS on the Factory that discuss Supply & Demand and DISRUPTING THEM because of what he sees and believes is happening to price by SM in FX.

So The Mob that attack this thread either have an agenda or are sociopathological’ly inclined IMO lol.

Hard Thinking folks, not just standard thinking please.
Pete
  • #10,719
  • Jan 3, 2019 4:03pm Jan 3, 2019 4:03pm
Quoting TimeTells
Hard Thinking folks, not just standard thinking please. Pete
  • #10,720
  • Jan 3, 2019 4:24pm Jan 3, 2019 4:24pm
Quoting TimeTells
Another story though. Everyone uses thinking, yes. But not so many use what I call Hard Thinking. Hard thinking is not just scratching your head a few more times lol. It is the process of looking at what you are thinking about & examining it from BOTH sides of the argument. Both sides, think about that, lol. So many in FX use the phrase Supply & Demand. It is a major part of many methods of trading and of understanding where buyers & sellers might be sitting and waiting to come in and move (reverse?) price direction. But is the PROCESS that is seen...
Frac
Who has ever disputed Wholesale go for Retail stops?

Safe
JD
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