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"It´s true. I only use this monoculars for 3 months and I can see now the SM. Never been so easy." - TT from Brisbane
"With the monoculars I can see SM and more, now I know where to put my SL (500 pips away) " - GrosDesco from Paris

happy 2019

Hi FxPrima,

It’s all a battle in FX lol.

Every book you read promotes one method or another. I’ve found each has a piece of the jigsaw puzzle but not the whole (which of course SM love).

Technical analysts will swear by their method, and anyone using something different is wrong lol.

Other methadologists will swear by their method. And others are wrong.

If you are winning, you are probably trading well.

Deeper still, entry positions are lauded by some traders, whereas others can get into trade at 50/50 and use trade management to turn a small profit.

Beating one’s chest to prove their method exclusively to others is one thing. To derise another method (with venom) as being impossible lol is maybe just a selective blindness.

Together, with all the opinions, traders will become brighter and hopefully more successful.

And JGalt

I am hoping Billytt can still offer his opinion on your chart.

All opinions are worthwhile and should never be wasted by derision. They are personal opinions after all.

I am more a visual guy myself.

So perhaps my broker chart below of my trade entries yesterday can show you my entry points better than my talking about where I did this and did that.

Because I was not DM in SM’s eyes yesterday, I was only able to get 1 of my basket of 3 trades at each entry.

(I used to have 8 in a basket ie I divided my max trade lot by 8 for each entry – but I was encouraged by a helpful forum member to look at reducing that to a division of 3, which I had done).

all the best

What can I say ...

Of course, everyone has their own method.
The problem here is that in your case it's pure gambling.
First, trying to day trading a few pips in the 15m frame it´s very complicated.
You need to have a stop (you dont have) you need to have a structure (you dont have) based on your chart.
Second, It´s not because price break or test a high/low you have a trade opportunity.
What you need is to have the best odds with the "SM" move.
This is a game of probabilities and they increase when you follow (or when you know how to follow) the "SM".
That´s why I say you dont know what you are talking about, just pure luck, "been there, done that".
Today was a very good day to study, we had two types of performance of the "SM" ... that I was able to detect during my trading period.

I will not respond to your posts any more, it's a wasted of time.
I realize that you are not interested.
Your interest is obvious ... and the intention is to promote Mr. FF

Happy 2019 and stay safe.

"... The world needs wannabe's ..."

I keep getting emails popping up on my desk top telling me the thread is alive.

Pushing FF - lol, I thought you were a little wiser FxPrim, the woods for the trees and all that


So, rightly or wrongly, my PERSONALITY does not allow me to profit from technical analysis.

I tried technical a year ago, but somehow it didn’t work for me. My bad maybe.

Or maybe not. I like freeform, discretionary trading. That’s me.

But personality is NOT directly linked to intelligence (thank goodness).

PERSONALITY IS ALSO NOT OUR BEHAVIOUR IMO.

Some people are overly kind, some just easy going, some are venomous, and some are just derisive lol, that is a behaviour.

These actions DO NOT occur from personality but from the firing of neurons, the links of the bicameral mind and the cerebral cortex, plus the releases of serotonin and endorphins within us.

It’s a big process going on inside all of us, and almost involuntary.

Personality (well to me anyway) dictates what SUITS you best in life.

Relating mostly to work, partners, club memberships etc. (and to trading FX lol).

Everyone at some point in their life should examine their own personality (at my age I’ve had a couple of shots lol). Not examine their behaviour, do not confuse the two.

(behaviour is for another day)


FXPrim, you clearly have something to show, but you don’t.

Your hand drawn sheet with no reference points did not help me.

Please put up an MT4 chart and show others what you mean visually with your ups/downs on a real chart etc.
Cherry pick it I don't care. Not even your own trade I don;t care

SHOW US WHAT YOU'VE GOT - THAT YOU'RE HIDING


"Mama always told me not to look into the sights of the sun
Whoa, but mama that's where the fun is"
The Boss




And for some real joy in life, I mean real JOY, terrific stuff those days Mr S
Bruce (BEFORE the Rock N Roll) with the E Street Guys

Wild Billy’s Circus Story
Springsteen – The Wild, The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle
Gary Tallant on Tuba

damn i'd like to know whats going on with usd/cad

Hi GrosDesco, I reckon we all would

And there you go.

I get up for my morning cuppa and ForexFactory just send me an email again. When the thread is alive.

Thanks Factory. Wishing you Gros & all others a great New Year. I got to bed early on the Eve (age related) and I’m reasonably clear headed this morning (some will say I never was - but they’re wrong ).

My personal opinion (and only commentary lol) but the USDCAD is one of the most highly volatile (or manipulated lol) of the 4 pairs I trade.

And I always treat it like I’m wearing welding gloves just to protect me from the heat lol.

The Weekly might the best chart to view it from. Whatever structural views you use on your charts is fine. But it did a weekly burst again 3 weeks ago to near the mid-year high of a couple of years back (2017).

But it’s been higher lol.

It’s now stalled (ranged) the last 2 weeks but SM (IMO of course lol) have too many fish on the line right now, so it’s a wait and see for who breaks first. The buyers going nowhere or the sellers at screaming point are all propped and waiting.

They CAN still take price higher though, there is room for it right up to 1.38 if THEY WANT TO.

What we do know with USDCAD is that once it reverses
(profit taken, fish expired etc etc, whatever your view on the Process),
USDCAD will move strongly again.

Nip in and out & scalp at the moment only maybe.

They are ranging it around 70 pips which gives both new buyers & sellers some space (at the lines) to STILL get involved.

Once it suits SM (IMO of course lol), as they get a new loaded barrel of fish (of new late players coming in now) they will take price in whichever direction is MOST PROFITABLE for them.

It’s just a way of looking at FX, doesn’t need to be perfect, precise, correct, knowledgeable, analysed, price actioned, awareable, or any of the many ways we can choose to look at price movement in FX. But it is still tradeable for humble retail lol.

Be in the right direction (everyone gets to choose which direction, at any point in time), or have the current uppers & lowers covered is all. And good fortunes.

(Are You Sure) This Is Where You Want To Be



from ’65 lol, before the outlaw country era (with Waylon)

they used this song in ‘Lost The Series’ somewhere and again in The Kray Bros movie

Even on the thread USDCAD they talk about dark pools LOL
i wish ff could post something , i cant take a serious trade with this chaos on cad
TimeTells i got the feeling you know something we dont know LOL
i'm planning to use friend money to trade forex , but only if i got FF charts LOL
8/10 of my trades based on FF charts made profit
i really hope he is ok and not depressed !

Hi GrosDesco,

Do I know something more? A little bit, maybe, but NOT much more lol.

The “chaos” on USDCAD yesterday was actually pretty to watch (sorry, lol – I didn’t get the full moves because I scalp in & out for around 12-15 pips – I got a little more yesterday but no where near the full SM move, but I watched it).

I’ve put in 5-6 hrs per day (6 days a week lol), over about 3 years. I got out of FX the 2nd year after getting carved up in Year One (by SM, NOT by my methods as a junior trader – I just didn’t realise it then).

So about 30hrs pw = 1500 per year = ~ 4500 hours screen time.

I read you will need about 10,000 hrs screen time. So I’m half way on my journey I guess.

I’ve downloaded (every) PDF I could find on FX, and every Indi lol, and have a couple of gig in all. And I’ve tried the lot, the systems with the indi’s, employed S/R, trends, trendlines ete etc etc etc.

Here’s my opinion (and commentary lol) for what it’s worth.

They ALL work. Though here’s the rub. Only about 50% of the time (I read 52% somewhere).

And after I suspected a hidden entity lol(ie SM), Frac’s charts finally put it all together for me.

So, you CAN use any method, system, T/A etc you like imo.

They all work – people say but only for a while – I think now it’s “not” for a while. They will work.

But where they DON’T WORK is when SM comes in and cleans you up & out, you get hit hard and don’t realise it is happening till the “chaos” is over.

But now you CAN realise it – well realise SM (or see the rabbit in the picture that is just dots – in my analogy).

And when you SEE SM in full swing (& in the beauty of their moves) you will never NOT see it again.

Anyway that’s my view now after 4500 hrs is all. (Maybe I’ll come back after 10,000 hrs with another view).

Look at the picture below.

Where were Retail buying/selling? Where did SM come in and blow them all out of the water?

You could have traded them T/A P/A etc during the charts calm times.

But NOT S/R later in the "chaos".

They blew thru 3 sets of S/R in just TWO 15m CANDLES lol,that’s how bold SM apparently are.

(Do people really think it was Retail Traders entering a trade & moving those massive candles.)


So you CAN trade with what (method) you’ve got imo. And trade the levels that SM have printed for you.

BUT BE VIGILANT REGARDING SM COMING IN & BLOWING YOU OUT OF THE WATER.

As you won’t really know when they’re going to do it.

This why you MUST use either a hard or (hard) mental Stop Loss.

But don’t pick a number (like 1.35000 lol). Use the daily ranges for SL or prev BIG hi/lo’s as a clue.

Better still link SL to your a/c equity like 3%, 5% etc (some are happy out to 10% ouch but I’m NOT a gambler lol and this would have me palpitating).


GrosDesco, I understand you & sympathise for your situation as Frac’s charts showed you THE WHEN to trade I guess.

I didn’t get to use them, I was late to the party.

BUT we don’t need the charts imo. We need to SEE the SM PROCESS.

(I’ll put my final, yes I know lol, offering, on what Frac showed us, soon.)

So anyone stumbling on this thread.

Just for those that don’t wish to churn through 500+ pages, I did a quick speed scan thru (forgive errors).


Pages 1-4
are like in a stage play, setting up the scenery and setting up the characters for the main show

Page 5
is a kickoff

Pages 13-15
reconstructs

Page 23
some of the 15m charts came in

Pages 38-40
getting into the process again

Page 45
some people are seeing the process

Page 69
sadly precipitating a stage of future forum “behaviour” ffs lol


Nothing really of value to a learner from then (just the bickering)


Page 116 -118
back to chart discussions & price behaviour

Page 121 – 123
I had some interest reading this

Page 125
some others see value in Fracs thoughts

Pages 138-139
Interesting discussions


I’ve missed some for sure but I can’t look on any further (even tho I speed read lol), but it covers the gist of it all imo.

And IMO - the PROCESS that Frac showed us is more important than the charts.

Good luck all.
Pete

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...5#post11819765

Very articulate summary of this thread from Jenny MK, ex subscriber of Fractal :

After several months of wasting my precious time here this is a quick summary for those unfortunate people who have just landed here in this godforsaken thread:

There are no facts presented nor shared in this thread.
There are no trade explorers to back up any of the claims.
There are no screenshots showing any of the mechanics of how the claims operate.
In essence what someone thinks could be stop loss levels being hit and eaten could be positions or orders.
The OP is clutching at straws, it is only his idea of how the market works and he cannot prove it.
If I were the OP making claims, I would be damn sure I could prove my claims.
The thread is one big mess with no logic presented and whats worse than that, important questions of logic are avoided.
The thread is absolute chaos.
As a beginner and an eager student I ask myself how this could be the only thread I ever need, when no one here has a clue how it operates and no one here has shown any examples of the claims presented.
Unfortunately the thread has been a complete waste of my precious time.
Not one person has come forward to explain or show any factual based trades on the so called SM and DM.
Is this whole thread possibly someones idea of a cruel joke?
I couldn't care less anymore.

Quoting Pooh123:

Jenny is like the boy who told the truth in the Emperor's New Clothes. The rest of FractalFreak's followers just pretend to be profitable trading his method. They continue cheating themselves, and sometimes they do that unconsciously.

Human mind is a big liar, much bigger than the liar FractalFreak. It tells more lies than FractalFreak does. A human being tends to accept whatever his mind tells him as an accurate reflection of reality. He rarely questions or objectively evaluates his thoughts. Because thoughts are a natural part of him, accepting them seems natural, too, but in trading, this can be dangerous. Part of the danger comes from natural limitations in his cognitive capabilities. One of such cognitive bias is pain avoidance.

A human being tends to reject painful thoughts. Often time when someone catches a husband cheating on his wife and tells the wife about it, the wife will get angry with the messenger, because the truth causes pain on the wife. The same thing is happening with Fractal's loyal followers.

Fractal's method offers false hope to his followers. Firstly, he essentially tells traders that they should not be responsible for the outcome of their trading. It's not their fault that they lose. It's the Market Makers' stop hunting that is to blame. 2ndly, he tells traders, by following his method, traders will be on the side of SM. No wonder his thread is popular with followers. He caters to their cognitive bias of shunning responsibility and optimism.

When we tell those followers that Fractal's method is no salvation for them, it causes a painful thought in their mind. The cognitive bias of pain avoidance kicks in and make the followers reject our advice so that they can keep holding on to their false hope of finding their salvation or finding their "missing pieces". How many times we've seem them talking about "I've found my missing pieces" in that thread ? Yet none of them is able to prove that with the equity curve of their trading accounts.

FractalFreak's method has its value. Used wisely it can benefit your trading. However, it's not a game changer. Used unwisely it can do more harm than good for your trading. And I don't think it can consistently generate profits if used as a stand alone strategy. So far neither his followers nor himself are able to show with verifiable proof that they can trade that strategy with sustained success.

On the contrary, there is proof that it already did harm to some traders. Some followers became dependent on it. They can't trade without it. They beg for the charts everyday. They adopted Martingale/pyramiding on losing trades...

Finally, for Fractal's followers, the only way to objectively determine the value of Fractal's thread/method, is not to use what your mind's telling you, as I've already shown you human mind is a big liar. It tells us whatever we want to hear or believe. The only way to objectively determine the value of Fractal's thread/method, is to look at the equity curve of your trading account. I know it's painful to look at it for the followers. But you have to accept the cold, hard truth it is telling you. Did all that "found my missing pieces", "I can read the market know", all those "eye opening" transform into a growing equity curve ?
Jenny is brave enough to accept the truth, why can't you ?

Hi Shabs lol,

I’m trying to eat brekky , ffs, but I got an email from Forex Factory.

Telling me the thread is still alive, thx to you, wink. (I hope you’re dressed hehee).

Don’t worry I can keep reprinting page numbers others might like to read.


Now I’m not trading this morning yet lol.

But did you see the USDCAD move first hour up in Asia.

It seems a lone wolf Retail Trader put in a new buy order this morning .

75 pips. LOL. (And you won’t know when the Stop Hunt is coming for you. SM are that good at it.)


Don’t be blinded by The Mob, folks, people are seeing a part of the SM Process.

Traders only need to find their own method. To do 2 things around it -
1. win trading it
2. avoid getting cleaned out by SM

Pages 138-139
Interesting discussions added to Frac’s ideas, by others

"Don’t worry I can keep reprinting page numbers others might like to read. "

Over 10,000 posts is not enough to see the truth behind this utterly ridiculous long thread ?

And you think it needs to be kept alive ?

Sad. - Good Luck mate. - Don't choke on your Brekkie.

Cheers Shabs, you too mate

(10,000 minus 9,000 maybe of the trouble makers & non contributors )

happy new year everyone!