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  • #15,921
  • Dec 5, 2018 8:12am Dec 5, 2018 8:12am
Looks like no trade today. VB closes in about 10 minutes.
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  • #15,922
  • Dec 5, 2018 8:14am Dec 5, 2018 8:14am
Quoting yohec
{quote} Several months ago, I was logging the pip movement for a basket from market open Sunday to market close Friday every week. I generated graphs such as yours for each each week. I was looking for patterns of big pip movements up and down. I was hoping to improve on time and date for entries and exits. I wanted to develop general guidelines such as "baskets usually move downward on Monday morning", "baskets usually peak on Wednesday afternoon", etc. What I found after several weeks is that there was no pattern whatsoever. There was no consistency...
well yes i totally agree with you that can't find any pattern on certain day or certain time of the day. But I think I am looking for is the pattern of the basket itself during that week. let's say may be if the max pip of the week is around xxx pips.. so it would not be wise to open a trade around that area. Or may be xxx pips seems like the area where the basket pips would bounce back again, so then we would open basket at that area. I would think of it as a basket-price altogether. i guess the hardest part is to define max pips is xxx or min pips of the basket is xxx unless we set to get the data at the same opening time.
  • #15,923
  • Dec 5, 2018 8:39am Dec 5, 2018 8:39am
Quoting minigan
{quote} well yes i totally agree with you that can't find any pattern on certain day or certain time of the day. But I think I am looking for is the pattern of the basket itself during that week. let's say may be if the max pip of the week is around xxx pips.. so it would not be wise to open a trade around that area. Or may be xxx pips seems like the area where the basket pips would bounce back again, so then we would open basket at that area. I would think of it as a basket-price altogether. i guess the hardest part is to define max pips is xxx...
Thanks, I see what you are saying.
  • #15,924
  • Dec 5, 2018 8:44am Dec 5, 2018 8:44am
Quoting yohec
{quote} Thanks, I see what you are saying.
i'll post on the weekend how the chart looks like completely. I might do that for several weeks ahead to see if there is a "support" or "resistance" area that we can use for entry/SL/TP or may be even reverse

btw another update on the chart
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  • #15,925
  • Dec 5, 2018 9:04am Dec 5, 2018 9:04am
Quoting TimFX59
{quote} Hi Yohec, I was away the hole day yesterday and had your old setup on my vps, but when I came back it had not traded perhaps because of an unexpected shutdown or perhaps I forgot to reload the mt4 after a reboot lol. So if it had traded the RB1 had minimum reached 192 pips - do you know if it went further up? I can remember that I had 10 pair in the suggestions list and you had 8 - thats strange. Can I ask which broker do you use? Tim
I'm still following the VB2 from yesterday. VB2 opened at the same time as RB1, which I have already closed for +152 pips.

Had I not closed RB1 when I did, it would have gone as high as +226 pips, not high enough to hit the profit lock of 300 pips (although I am now considering changing the profit lock to 200 pips when the basket has less that 10 pairs).

While I slept last night, the basket went down to -326 pips, which would have triggered RB2. As I write this several hours later, the baskets have moved positively and RB1 would have been at -150 pips, and RB2 at +150 pips. The total would have been in profit since RB2's positions are 50% higher than RB1. At this point, I would be watching for possibly closing both baskets manually. Although since it is still early Wednesday, I would be more inclined to let the baskets run longer to try to get more profit.

Such is the power of opening the second basket when the first is in big drawdown. This is what has helped make my system more profitable, as opposed to just staying with the one basket. Of course, you run the risk of now having 2 baskets in big drawdown, but fortunately this has not happened very often. In the 47 weeks I have traded the system during 2018, only 3 times have I finished the week closing both baskets for a loss.

Wow! As I'm writing this, the Canada Interest Rate decision just came in, moving the baskets very positively. RB2 would now be at +320 pipos and RB1 at +20 pips. It would have been a huge winner.
  • #15,926
  • Dec 5, 2018 9:32am Dec 5, 2018 9:32am
Quoting yohec
{quote} I'm still following the VB2 from yesterday. VB2 opened at the same time as RB1, which I have already closed for +152 pips. Had I not closed RB1 when I did, it would have gone as high as +226 pips, not high enough to hit the profit lock of 300 pips (although I am now considering changing the profit lock to 200 pips when the basket has less that 10 pairs). While I slept last night, the basket went down to -326 pips, which would have triggered RB2. As I write this several hours later, the baskets have moved positively and RB1 would have been...
The R:R for your secondary baskets is far superior to that of your primary baskets. You may consider allowing VB2 to stay active and allowing a NEG triggered basket to be opened when, and if trigger value is reached, even though RB1 may have been closed in profit.
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  • #15,927
  • Dec 5, 2018 10:21am Dec 5, 2018 10:21am
Quoting Pippopotamus
{quote}The R:R for your secondary baskets is far superior to that of your primary baskets. You may consider allowing VB2 to stay active and allowing a NEG triggered basket to be opened when, and if trigger value is reached, even though RB1 may have been closed in profit.
I have considered doing exactly that, keeping VB2 open after closing RB1 in profit. But I've always decided to play it conservatively, take my profit, and call it a good week.
  • #15,928
  • Dec 5, 2018 12:19pm Dec 5, 2018 12:19pm
Quoting KonstantinSt
{quote} Hi can I make proposal to add function in v 45 please so when you use "add another trade...." on 4H you can hedge, but when EA open "buy" and then "sell" it does not open next trade in one pair. can you add this function to add trades when appears. I dont know did I make my self clear but I want to make "circle" for every 4h I can use "flip trades" function to "true" but then AE close and cash loser trades. I think that if you can "lock" profit whit hedge offers, or maybe this option "flip" will work if its turned on "on...
Konstanin:

Do you mean that you want the EA to allow "hedged" into the real basket? For example. Say the real basket is already opened with X number of trades and you have set the "allow new trades" = true. Currently the EA will only allow NEW trades that of NEW symbols that are in your basket. Once the EA opens say EURGBP Sell. It will not open a new trade that is EURGBP BUY, but it will open a new trade with a symbol that is not in your basket.

So from that I gather that you want to allow the EA to open new trades that ARE HEDGES to whatever symbol is already opened in the basket.
Is this what you are looking for??

Let me know.
Jess
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  • #15,929
  • Dec 5, 2018 12:24pm Dec 5, 2018 12:24pm
Quoting ravs_avs
Thanks @blankman, @yohec, @thomas1386, @KonstantinSt for responding guys, really appreciate it. The thing which has really confused me is the use of virtual basket and how to use it. Can someone please direct me to the post where this is explained. So in essence apart from the settings, the timing is very important for opening baskets and the results differ for different timed baskets. Also, KonstantinSt your results are impressive, though still very early to say anything conclusive. Do you mind sharing your set file on this forum, I would also...
rav_avs:
Sorry for the delay, I am trying to catch up .

Think of a virtual basket as a Pending order to a single trade. When a virtual basket is opened no REAL trades are opened. So then you set the vTriggers (upper for like a STOP ORDER and lower for like a LIMIT ORDER). When the profit of the virtual basket hits either of the triggers then a basket with real trades is opened. From then on the EA will monitor the real basket for TP, SL, or Trail or Profit Lock conditions...

Jess
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  • #15,930
  • Dec 5, 2018 12:41pm Dec 5, 2018 12:41pm
Quoting yohec
{quote} I'm still following the VB2 from yesterday. VB2 opened at the same time as RB1, which I have already closed for +152 pips. Had I not closed RB1 when I did, it would have gone as high as +226 pips, not high enough to hit the profit lock of 300 pips (although I am now considering changing the profit lock to 200 pips when the basket has less that 10 pairs). While I slept last night, the basket went down to -326 pips, which would have triggered RB2. As I write this several hours later, the baskets have moved positively and RB1 would have been...
As far as I am concerned this is the HOLY GRAIL, not the EA nor the approach but the discovery that Yohec has made :
" In the 47 weeks I have traded the system during 2018, only 3 times have I finished the week closing both baskets for a loss."

This can be discovered for any approach, ya just gotta look OUT OF THE BOX and not follow the same old rules or thoughts that traders have been taught for a couple of centuries now...

I can almost guarantee that the majority of the profitable/famous traders discovered this as well..

Jess
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  • #15,931
  • Dec 5, 2018 12:47pm Dec 5, 2018 12:47pm
Wednesday Basket

MT4 EA v44
Indicator CMSM v17.01: level 4@ PERIOD_W1, MA(3,5,MODE_EMA,PRICE_WEIGTHED). MA x [1,2,3,4,6,12]]

Result:No trade for today

PS: yea I know, you will see v44.1, just need to conduct some testing and will release. v45 needs more testing it was giving me issues... but I think we may of got it to work... stay tuned
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  • #15,932
  • Dec 5, 2018 12:49pm Dec 5, 2018 12:49pm
Quoting minigan
{quote} i'll post on the weekend how the chart looks like completely. I might do that for several weeks ahead to see if there is a "support" or "resistance" area that we can use for entry/SL/TP or may be even reverse btw another update on the chart {image}
Dude you that MAN!! I love to see the tool and how it is used. I just need to automate it so that it will give u the data like that instead of you having to go to EXCEL and do all that graphing stuff...

Good job....
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  • #15,933
  • Dec 5, 2018 5:09pm Dec 5, 2018 5:09pm
Quoting KonstantinSt
{quote} of course i will not forget that i will include also recepie for stuffed peppers and meat balls
Stuffed peppers, sooooooooooo good!
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  • #15,934
  • Dec 5, 2018 6:25pm Dec 5, 2018 6:25pm
@xmess7
How are you progressing with the Virtual Trade Chart we discussed by PM Sep 29, friendly reminder attached:
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  • #15,935
  • Dec 5, 2018 6:35pm Dec 5, 2018 6:35pm
Quoting xmess7
{quote} Dude you that MAN!! I love to see the tool and how it is used. I just need to automate it so that it will give u the data like that instead of you having to go to EXCEL and do all that graphing stuff... Good job....
It would be a great addition to have that. I was going back and forth copying the latest data to get the graph update. Looking forward to it.
  • #15,936
  • Dec 5, 2018 7:58pm Dec 5, 2018 7:58pm
Need a Break. Back in January.
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  • #15,937
  • Dec 5, 2018 8:04pm Dec 5, 2018 8:04pm
Quoting Pippopotamus
Need a Break. Back in January.
Enjoy your break. Thanks for your helpful suggestions on using my method.
  • #15,938
  • Dec 5, 2018 9:33pm Dec 5, 2018 9:33pm
Quoting PayItForward
@xmess7 How are you progressing with the Virtual Trade Chart we discussed by PM Sep 29, friendly reminder attached: {image}
Sorry haven't. Got involved with a non profit and been busy building that website.

What I intend to do next is to get that LONG ASS list down to something controlable. Its just to much and I don't like that many inputs. LOL.
So what I plan to do is creat control boxes that will have portions of the inputs. Say maybe 3. These control boxes will be on your charts and you can minimize them.
So you will be able to have a neat organized chart and since the inputs will be in shorted section they wont look to messy. Of course the main input window will no longer be needed.

In addition the Display you see now will also be in a control box or window so you can also minimize it when you want or leave it open.

Hmmm I could also do that with the ccfp basket data ... slap a chart on a window.... ...

There are a couple of smaller things to do but this is it. The end is slowly starting to appear. The end of development.
I haven't decide yet on whether to release the source code or not. The problem I am hearing is that not only will there be folks trying to sell it but then there will be modification to it and it can become a mess in the future... LOL perhaps I'll be like FERRUX (he refuses to update his ccfp-diff LOL)
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  • #15,939
  • Dec 5, 2018 11:09pm Dec 5, 2018 11:09pm
Quoting xmess7
{quote} Sorry haven't. Got involved with a non profit and been busy building that website.
Thanks for the update ... you probably have web hosting already organised but if not and you need a Linux Freebie, only for non-profit ... web hosting is one of my old businesses I retained for passive income when I retired ... send me a PM for more info if you want ...
The rest sounds interesting and I guess you would already know it is very easy to setup the software with protection from the unscrupolous of this world ...
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  • #15,940
  • Dec 5, 2018 11:58pm Dec 5, 2018 11:58pm
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} Thanks for the update ... you probably have web hosting already organised but if not and you need a Linux Freebie, only for non-profit ... web hosting is one of my old businesses I retained for passive income when I retired ... send me a PM for more info if you want ... The rest sounds interesting and I guess you would already know it is very easy to setup the software with protection from the unscrupolous of this world ... {image}
Yep all of the above. I love challenges. about 3 months ago I was faced with a challenge by where bots were going into one of the website I host and infecting several files such that when the client or their clients when to that website the infected software would install many folders and remove the main index file and well you know put up their stuff.

So I got in there and little by little I dismantled their operation LOL IT WAS SOOOO FUNN!!!!. YOu see I once I found the solution I didn't implement it right away, I slowly implemented... first for example I took away their ability to overwrite the index files... So now my client was happy. But they were still trying... cause I would see a zillion files and folder that didn't belong in the website directories. Then I took away their rights to change permission on the folder LOL!!! At that point they were STUCk and could only upload files to the main website page BUT could not overwrite anything LOL!!!! Then I completely took away their ability to upload anything LOL... BAM!! GOTTA !!!!

Fun stuff.... very fun

BTW I know my windows OS very well... but Linux is the best for operation and especially for security. True all systems are vunerable but with Linux you got the whole engine and you can do counter attack any person or bot or BOTS.. They say bots are dumb well actually it only means that the users or coders that created them didn't think through all things out. It sort of like this EA... I have it doing all kinds of stuff on the background that you guys don't even imagine and its all necessary so that the EA can function... and even then I mess up and don't cover something or over cover it.

But thank goodness these later versions are more robust and also easier to diagnose cause the code is very lean now and if there is an issue I can quickly go to section I think it is. LOL I say lean... its only around 4200 lines of code LOL
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