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  • #15,681
  • Nov 17, 2018 5:02am Nov 17, 2018 5:02am
Quoting kobra101
Thank you for the feedback and explanation! so in TF=1, period (3,5) indicates "3 fast and 5 slow MA days" or "3 and 5 hours" ? if it is days - if i would experiment to look for longer period of days let's say 9 and 21 in either TF=H1 or TF=D1 with respective multiplier. would the output of indicator be correct meaning shows respective chosen period ?

TF=1???

Do you point the the time frame of your chart that CMSM runs or CMSM TimeFrame setting?
  • #15,682
  • Nov 17, 2018 5:08am Nov 17, 2018 5:08am
CMSM TimeFrame setting
  • #15,683
  • Nov 17, 2018 5:11am Nov 17, 2018 5:11am
Quoting kobra101
CMSM TimeFrame setting
TimeFrame = X

Base Period (3 fast and 5 Slow Ma X Time Frame)

if X = H1 then Base Period (3 fast and 5 Slow Ma hours)
  • #15,684
  • Nov 17, 2018 5:20am Nov 17, 2018 5:20am
Thank you for your time, help and support !
  • #15,685
  • Nov 17, 2018 7:39am Nov 17, 2018 7:39am
Quoting xmess7
{quote} Wow its been almost 2 years since this subject was tackled.... LOl. But here we go... This is a tricky issue (as are certain other situations). You see the question is which set of suggested pairs do we open when we are trying to make the basket thing work like a STOP/LIMIT Order? With one pair it's easy right? Price moves up to a certain level and BAM open the Pair at that current BiD/ASk price. So initially this is why I elected to have the EA open the real basket with the CURRENT price levels for either the Trade Suggested list...
Hi J

Thanks again for the reply.

Well, yes, as I was saying, i remember reading about this topic before but it just didn't really evolve into an either this or that option. As for being able to demonstrate if the opening of original vb trades (as opposed to the up-to-date current suggested trades), it would be a chicken and egg problem since there is no way I can test it without it being an option in the current ea to test in the first place lol. That being said, I still think that treating the vb opened trades as the eventual real basket (if triggered), would make quantifying and qualifying all results and statistics more watertight, since ceteris paribus, the less new parameters introduced once a trade (basket) is set in motion, the better. And to me, once the vb begins, that qualifies as the beginning of the trade, not only when it is triggered. So even though 3 profitable approaches have been developed in this manner, we are all still here testing for better methods aren't we Therefore, if it's not too much trouble, it'd be great if there is an option to open current suggested trades or original vb trades once vb is triggered (I'm no coder unfortunately, so I don't know if its a one liner solution or tons and tons of code )

But of course, whatever be, thanks for all the effort. Greens to you bro.

Marsh
  • #15,686
  • Nov 17, 2018 8:02am Nov 17, 2018 8:02am
Quoting grandaevus
{quote} mrdfx, you use Weekly Time frame for daily trading When a currency strength indicator suggests to buy a symbol for TimeFrame=Weekly; it doesn't mean that symbol's daily close price would always be higher than it's daily open price for every single working day of the week. This is the correct interpretation; When CMSM suggests to buy a symbol for TimeFrame=Weekly, it means that symbol's weekly candle close price would most probably be higher than weekly candle open price. So in other words, Monday could be green, Tuesday could be green, Wednesday...
grandaevus as I said in my post it is daily settings, not weekly, so a bit of confusion I guess.

I am running multiple simultaneous tests (weekly & daily) but in my post I was referring to daily baskets using the CMSM set on H4, not W1.
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  • #15,687
  • Nov 17, 2018 8:15am Nov 17, 2018 8:15am
Quoting grandaevus
{quote} Could you please try TimeFrame=Daily for your daily trades. (wait at least 8 hours before opening trades) You would get better results.
On this point something which I found in my previous testing of v17.01 was that I had more success using time frame = H4 than = D1 in my daily baskets.

I ran comparison testing for weeks between H4 and D1 time frame settings, and H4 was the winner hence me using it as a comparison for v19.01.
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  • #15,688
  • Nov 17, 2018 12:15pm Nov 17, 2018 12:15pm
hey mrdfx

can I ask about an update of your daily basket tests below?

thanks, blam

Quoting mrdfx
{quote} Hello vinivst, yes I have concluded my initial testing, I compiled all the data over the last 12 weeks, and from 9 final basket tests, I picked the top 2 winners and have now put them head to head for a further 4 weeks to decide. I am also testing them against some duplicate baskets using the new functions that have been added to the EA to see which is more profitable long term. Once this is completed I will post and share my results here. Over the many many months of testing various daily settings, the biggest challenge was consistency....
  • #15,689
  • Nov 18, 2018 12:07am Nov 18, 2018 12:07am
Quoting luiboy
Jess, Is there a TP/SL setting that will automatically change depending on how many trades are open? If for example I want the TP to be 50 pips per open trade, if there are 5 open trades, the TP would only be 250 pips. Because if I fix the TP to 500, it may take a hard time to reach 500 pips if there are only 5 open trades compared to if there are 10 open trades.
Nope. Remember pg1 set tp/sl and forget it lol.
But like i mentioned there is an old setting that allows you to set the sl per trade.. and even set a trail per trade. just say the word and i will unhide it.
J
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  • #15,690
  • Nov 18, 2018 12:14am Nov 18, 2018 12:14am
Quoting kobra101
{quote} Hi xmess7, Thank you for the feedback and efforts! Yes, I am but if you have to remove it because of specific reason then i can always use an older version. I read post 14887 where you described how EA choose trades out of two indicators. if i may ask, is it possbile that EA choose only pairs with the same direction out of two indicators and everything else is ignored. indicator 1: Buy EURUSD Sell USDJPY indicator 2: Buy EURUSD Sell AUDCAD How to accomplish EA choose only trade Buy EURUSD and continues to choose same direction pairs during...
Well yea... out of scope and dont see the benefit since u still run the condition of having those trades take a dive in different direction...
I can ad what u mention. I'll think about it....
J
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  • #15,691
  • Nov 18, 2018 12:15am Nov 18, 2018 12:15am
Quoting rav5612
{quote} Ok for this feature. But i asked for the count of the closed trades. Has anyone ever closed some individual operations when they went very badly? If the EA could count these closings could be an important addon for me. Thanks
That i know of.. no one has done what u mention.
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  • #15,692
  • Nov 18, 2018 4:05am Nov 18, 2018 4:05am
Dear Yohec,
many thanks to post your settings and experiences in this topic and congratulations fo your consistet profit.
I'm looking for a strategy that can be traded on D1 or W1, because I've got a full time job, therefore
can't supervise the market all day, but I've time in the evening (GMT+1) and in weekend.
I decided to excercise a bit on the weekly basket strategy, read a lot, but can't completly understand
how does the virtual basket works in Your strategy.
I see that You use a separate account for this, understand the trigger calculation, but don't know how
the basket will open. In a separate MT4 I start the EA (v. 40.4) with 50% more LOTs, and use only
the VirtualBasket?
In fact, does Your system need a manual closing of baskets or any continuos supervising?
Thanks, Argentarius
  • #15,693
  • Edited 7:26am Nov 18, 2018 6:22am | Edited 7:26am
[quote = grandaevus; 11708027] {quote} TF = 1 ??? Non si punta il fotogramma il tempo della tua grafico che CMSM corre o l'impostazione CMSM TimeFrame? [/ Quote]


your opinion , best trade level for H4 cms v17.01 and v19.01?
  • #15,694
  • Nov 18, 2018 7:27am Nov 18, 2018 7:27am
[Quote = mrdfx; 11708279] {quote} Su questo punto una cosa che ho trovato nel mio precedente sperimentazione di v17.01 era che ho avuto pių successo con il tempo frame = H4 rispetto = D1 nei miei canestri quotidiane. Ho eseguito il test di confronto per settimane tra le impostazioni del telaio di tempo H4 e D1, e H4 č stato il vincitore, quindi, mi usando come confronto per v19.01. [/ Quote]



your opinion , best trade level for H4 cms v17.01 and v19.01
  • #15,695
  • Nov 18, 2018 8:31am Nov 18, 2018 8:31am
I have been following this topic for a long time, I thought I have seen this question pass by a few times, but I really can't find it back. So hopefully there is someone who can help me with this.

Due to the volatility in the GBP pair last week I want to leave all GBP pairs out in coming week trading. I was checking if I can do this in the CMSM indicator and I thought it is the symbolprefix one. But I am not 100% sure and also don't know what to fill in here.
  • #15,696
  • Nov 18, 2018 9:06am Nov 18, 2018 9:06am
Quoting Kamaanya
{quote} These trades were entered on the 4h time frame but of course after 1/3 of more time after candle formation to allow PA sync for better results.. For example on an 4 hr candle we have 4*60 =240 mins. 1/3*240=80 mins. This means u will have to sit on your hands for the next 80 mins or for an hour and twenty minutes. Last evening my candle formed at 17;00 hrs local time (+3 GMT). So I entered at 18:20 hrs.local time The results were quite impressive as seen below. Big up to all the key guys behind the engineering of this thread. Xmess, ##csm...
Hi Kamaanya,

Is this for any H4 candle?

Thank you!
  • #15,697
  • Nov 18, 2018 9:50am Nov 18, 2018 9:50am
Quoting casaccia
{quote} Hi Kamaanya, Is this for any H4 candle? Thank you!
Yes it is. But the 1/3 waiting time is applicable to all time frames to allow PA sync if u are to get best results.
  • #15,698
  • Nov 18, 2018 10:26am Nov 18, 2018 10:26am
Quoting blamshakk
hey mrdfx can I ask about an update of your daily basket tests below? thanks, blam {quote}
Hi blamshakk my daily basket tests is still ongoing.. Yeah I know its taking forever lol..

I was hoping for my tests to be completed this week, but with recent new developments to the EA and CMSM indicator, I'm running some additional comparison tests, and hopefully should be completed in the next 2-3 weeks, also wrapping things up for the year.

I'll post my results and sets once all is done.
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  • #15,699
  • Nov 18, 2018 5:44pm Nov 18, 2018 5:44pm
Quoting MarshallR
{quote} Hi J Thanks again for the reply. Well, yes, as I was saying, i remember reading about this topic before but it just didn't really evolve into an either this or that option. As for being able to demonstrate if the opening of original vb trades (as opposed to the up-to-date current suggested trades), it would be a chicken and egg problem since there is no way I can test it without it being an option in the current ea to test in the first place lol. That being said, I still think that treating the vb opened trades as the eventual real basket...
MarshallR:
A word of warning. Constant TESTING can and will lead to a situation of being in the same financial state (in term of trading). It can also lead to loss of interest (seen this sooo many times, just in this thread many have fallen off).

Now on to the subject.. Naw, it doesn't take alot of coding. I would say like 20 lines of code tops but these lines of code are spread out over 5000 (or there about) lines of code,as you can imagine the hard part is not coding the idea, that's REAL EASY, the hard part is to make sure that the integration does not break what is already in place. Boy, this has happened SOOOO many times vefore. Case in point, on one of the upgrades, I had changed the way the vb was closed at he end of the day. The change was real simple. I changed a condition from "==" (is equal to) to ">=" (greater than).. that simple change broke teh vb operation. The bad thing was that on some machines the vb operation was normal and so the error was not detected. That had me kracking my head for several weeks, as to why the vb was not opening properly. That was resolved of course .

Its not to say that the code is that delicate anymore, in the last month I have been cleaning out alot of it and even though it still has many lines its alot more manageable in term of finding errors and mistakes etc.

SO LETS ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ... the current version does have the ability to do what you want it to do. All you need is to set the "Treat VB as RealBasket" as true and that will in effect open the vb trades that were initially triggered BUT in addition the vb trades are constantly submitted to filtering. So when in this case when the real basket is created only those vb trades that passed the filters will be opened.

So ya gotta choice. Either use the current setup and set "Treat VB as RealBasket" as true and accept the condition mentioned or I modify the code (I already have the parts of code ready) and you test it. The new code will have a UseVirtualBasket input with 3 choices, true, false, and true_UseVBAsRealTrades, Selecting true_UseVBAsRealTrades will do as above EXCEPT the vb basket is kept intact and when it hits the vbTrigger then it will be processed and sent to open as a real basket.

Let me know and we hit go!
J
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  • #15,700
  • Nov 18, 2018 6:52pm Nov 18, 2018 6:52pm
Quoting xmess7
{quote} MarshallR: A word of warning. Constant TESTING can and will lead to a situation of being in the same financial state (in term of trading). It can also lead to loss of interest (seen this sooo many times, just in this thread many have fallen off). Now on to the subject.. Naw, it doesn't take alot of coding. I would say like 20 lines of code tops but these lines of code are spread out over 5000 (or there about) lines of code,as you can imagine the hard part is not coding the idea, that's REAL EASY, the hard part is to make sure that the integration...
Hi, excuses for my question, but i didn't understand exactly the filters that are opened when the "Treat VB as RealBasket" is on. Can you tell me an example? Is possible to make a virtual individual trade in real when is in positive of for example 1 pips? Or when has recovered 10 pips from the previous lower value? Can you show in the inputs of the EA wich filters are possible to activate? Thanks and sorry for this questions
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