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  • #3,361
  • Jun 20, 2018 8:33am Jun 20, 2018 8:33am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} simple answer: any broker with metatrader (and any other software) can do anything! this should be clear and one of the most basic anyone need to know! its simple software, you can do anything by pure porgramm or by add ons or plugins or feed and connection regulations,...... same like you can do anything with your expert programs.
I deeply understand all that dukas. I am a major in computer science with 28 yrs of IT industry experience. None of the known manipulations have much affect to my strategy but I need the damn connectivity to MT4 server to take counteractive measures. With disconnects, I am simply helpless and most of my intense activity happens during London when I am sleeping. I have a guy who monitors push notifications from my EA for me but he relies on my EA running to remotely control certain features.

As of today, I have stopped trading. This requires a solution outside of mt4 which will take some time and I am not sure this retail industry is worth my time anymore. I rather go the API route.
Staying in my lane...
  • #3,362
  • Jun 20, 2018 8:51am Jun 20, 2018 8:51am
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} I deeply understand all that dukas. I am a major in computer science with 28 yrs of IT industry experience. None of the known manipulations have much affect to my strategy but I need the damn connectivity to MT4 server to take counteractive measures. With disconnects, I am simply helpless and most of my intense activity happens during London when I am sleeping. I have a guy who monitors push notifications from my EA for me but he relies on my EA running to remotely control certain features. As of today, I have stopped trading. This requires...
very simple solution:

use 2 prime brokers!
you simple open opposite trade in other broker, when you cant do it in the other. and close it later by open new trade with closing the trade side you dont use any more.
very simple, you only need one programm to manage the trades and control both brokers, very easy task.
  • #3,363
  • Jun 20, 2018 9:08am Jun 20, 2018 9:08am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} very simple solution: use 2 prime brokers! you simple open opposite trade in other broker, when you cant do it in the other. and close it later by open new trade with closing the trade side you dont use any more. very simple, you only need one programm to manage the trades and control both brokers, very easy task.
Hmm...I completely lost you. Can you give me an example ? My trade volume is over 250 every week.
Staying in my lane...
  • #3,364
  • Jun 20, 2018 9:28am Jun 20, 2018 9:28am
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} Hmm...I completely lost you. Can you give me an example ? My trade volume is over 250 every week.
250 million, lot, trades....?

2 brokers: you trade both as one, when one dont react (what was your problem because of connection), close trade with opposite trade in other broker. and when open new trade look if trades are open and close this first before new opened..... and so on.

whats exactly the difficult point?
  • #3,365
  • Jun 20, 2018 9:46am Jun 20, 2018 9:46am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} 250 million, lot, trades....? 2 brokers: you trade both as one, when one dont react (what was your problem because of connection), close trade with opposite trade in other broker. and when open new trade look if trades are open and close this first before new opened..... and so on. whats exactly the difficult point?
250 closed trade executions per week plus approx 50-60 open positions running across 28 pairs. In a good week, it could reach a 1000+ trades. Apart from the increased cost of trading across 2 brokers, this solution won't work without redesigning my EA to keep track of which one is open/closed etc.

The problem here is the underlined..."when one dont react". My EA runs every tick so when disconnect happens, it sits there doing "nothing". Better option might be to run EA on a timer like every second, check change in server time and then send a push notice if there is no change.
Staying in my lane...
  • #3,366
  • Jun 20, 2018 10:17am Jun 20, 2018 10:17am
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} 250 closed trade executions per week plus approx 50-60 open positions running across 28 pairs. In a good week, it could reach a 1000+ trades. Apart from the increased cost of trading across 2 brokers, this solution won't work without redesigning my EA to keep track of which one is open/closed etc. The problem here is the underlined..."when one dont react". My EA runs every tick so when disconnect happens, it sits there doing "nothing". Better option might be to run EA on a timer like every second, check change in server time and then send...
of course on tick is no good solution.
only possible on tick, when you have a programm to watch the incoming ticks and react when there is a problem.

and of course your programm need to be redesigned, so just 2 days working and its on a 2-3 steps better solution for multibroker support. you can use second broker only for exits, or for entries too, whatever. its unimportant if you have 10 trades or 1 million trades in one week, because all is done by automatic and so without any problem (if programmed ok).

solution is extrem simple, if you want to do and if its worth for your trading amount and result, that only you know and can decide.
  • #3,367
  • Jun 20, 2018 11:01am Jun 20, 2018 11:01am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} of course on tick is no good solution. only possible on tick, when you have a programm to watch the incoming ticks and react when there is a problem. and of course your programm need to be redesigned, so just 2 days working and its on a 2-3 steps better solution for multibroker support. you can use second broker only for exits, or for entries too, whatever. its unimportant if you have 10 trades or 1 million trades in one week, because all is done by automatic and so without any problem (if programmed ok). solution is extrem simple, if you...
If I dump MT4 client and go the route of FIX API (for order executions only), wouldn't that be a better option for me? I am sick of retail brokers so that has always been the next progression step for me. Perhaps it is time now than later.

Please tell me if this is a stupid approach....Do all analytics, generation of trade signals etc still in MT4 (with same or different broker) and then send open/close orders via API. Even though my volumes are significant, latency, slippage, spreads etc have no significant significance to my overall performance.All my trade decisions is based on closing price so it really makes no difference if the price feed is off be few pips here and there. I am a volume trader so single trade does not make any dent to my account. If I do this then I am pretty much hiding my entire strategy from my primary broker right?
Staying in my lane...
  • #3,368
  • Jun 20, 2018 12:01pm Jun 20, 2018 12:01pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote}I am not with Pepperstone or any of the brokers listed in the screenshot but an offshore unregulated broker!
Why have you chosen to open and fund live accounts with an offshore unregulated broker?
  • #3,369
  • Jun 20, 2018 1:04pm Jun 20, 2018 1:04pm
Quoting C-12
{quote}Why have you chosen to open and fund live accounts with an offshore unregulated broker?
I am based in USA and need to bypass FIFO, require hedging and need access to Indices, metals, oils etc... although I am aware that I can live by without any of these.

My style is "divergent trend follower with mentality of trade small, trade often, brute force, aggressive when things go my way and mellow when markets calm down". plus I view FX broker risk to my capital right after deposit as huge so playing with the mindset of "trade with money I don't care to lose", "withdraw initial deposit and play to profits" etc etc just helps with my mindset... plus I am VERY new to automated trading... so taking it slow and easy for now.

EDIT: These two accounts being randomly "disconnected" have made over 1000% in several weeks so obviously, broker will doing everything to play such games. No surprise there. I am sure they will tell me stories like I am causing server to overload etc etc. dont care. Just a learning curve to move out of retail is how I see this sh*t play out.
Staying in my lane...
  • #3,370
  • Jun 20, 2018 2:02pm Jun 20, 2018 2:02pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} If I dump MT4 client and go the route of FIX API
Probably EXACTLY the same. I would guess that these plug-ins affect the price feed, not just "MT4" in itself. To try an analogy: You are pretty much saying that a product is bad, and you're asking if buying it online, rather than in a store will be any better (Hint: You will still end with the exact same product in the end !)

Go to the futures market on the CME. As an American, you will have no problem to find a local futures broker. Probably also better than to end up with withdrawing problems with an offshore broker accepting to do business with US customers (I would pretty much think this is a red flag seen the risks involved with doing it. You can't be a totally legit broker and expect to be in business in the long run when you engage in such a behavior. There sure must be some exceptions)

We are not much talking about Pepperstone here ;( We should probably be in another thread dedicated to these plug-ins.
  • #3,371
  • Jun 20, 2018 3:27pm Jun 20, 2018 3:27pm
Quoting Mevo
{quote} Probably EXACTLY the same. I would guess that these plug-ins affect the price feed, not just "MT4" in itself. To try an analogy: You are pretty much saying that a product is bad, and you're asking if buying it online, rather than in a store will be any better (Hint: You will still end with the exact same product in the end !) Go to the futures market on the CME. As an American, you will have no problem to find a local futures broker. Probably also better than to end up with withdrawing problems with an offshore broker accepting to do business...
but that would mean I have to leave ForexFactory and join FuturesFactory LOL
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  • #3,372
  • Jun 20, 2018 3:39pm Jun 20, 2018 3:39pm
mt4 = retail tool for retail fools. just a joke.
does anyone here believes just ONE trader at GS, DB f.e uses this trash?

GS junior trader: "boss, i wanna use mt4 right now!"
GS boss: "wtf?"
GS junior trader: "yeah - i just saw many successful retail traders at forex facebook are using that tool, i think it´s cool!"
GS boss: "there´s no such thing like a susccessful retail trader trading peanuts, for sure if he´s using mt4. you´re fired!"
fortis fortuna adiuvat
  • #3,373
  • Jun 20, 2018 4:36pm Jun 20, 2018 4:36pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} you are joking man, you are one of the supporter of the faker/scammer fractalFreak, one of his last folowers who could not check reality. same with moodybot, one of the biggest bullshit writers you suppert here. you support 2 extrem bullshitter (and only did see this in last minutes, maybe much more in reality) , thats crazy, of yourse only because you are connected to this or do same bullshit and want support by them later, i cant see it different, so crazy and wrong persons cant be and celebrate same time each other. what a clown group....
Dukas...lets get this right, so you know.
Fractal may/may not be a scammer.
I do not support Fractal or anyone else. ...
I do support his right to a fair playing field when being accused of orchestrating a scam.
Your language should be enough to have you suspended.....but this isn't a fair playing field, is it?
  • #3,374
  • Jun 20, 2018 9:41pm Jun 20, 2018 9:41pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} If I dump MT4 client and go the route of FIX API (for order executions only), wouldn't that be a better option for me? I am sick of retail brokers so that has always been the next progression step for me. Perhaps it is time now than later. Please tell me if this is a stupid approach....Do all analytics, generation of trade signals etc still in MT4 (with same or different broker) and then send open/close orders via API. Even though my volumes are significant, latency, slippage, spreads etc have no significant significance to my overall performance.All...
strategy cant be hided in this way effective.
if you want to hide a strategy:
- use more then 1 broker
- open many strategies over the 2 brokers and close in other broker he trades, later reopen by closing 1 of the 2 open brokers position.... and so on
- simple way to programm and most efficient

fix api is often better, but only for bigger volume really better. for normal volume until 1 million per trade its not extrem better. if you trade 1 mio (10lot) or more per trade, you want fix api. but simple mq4 programm can all do, what a fix api can do, if programmed in a good way, thats for sure. only the intern metatrader time gap for execution you cant improve with mq4 brokers of ofcourse or some intern metatader connection time and processes, with fix api you have the advantage to use many prime brokers.
  • #3,375
  • Jun 21, 2018 12:20am Jun 21, 2018 12:20am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} strategy cant be hided in this way effective. if you want to hide a strategy: - use more then 1 broker - open many strategies over the 2 brokers and close in other broker he trades, later reopen by closing 1 of the 2 open brokers position.... and so on - simple way to programm and most efficient fix api is often better, but only for bigger volume really better. for normal volume until 1 million per trade its not extrem better. if you trade 1 mio (10lot) or more per trade, you want fix api. but simple mq4 programm can all do, what a fix api...
Thanks man. I have not looked at multi broker strategy but I will say that my EA when run on two or more accounts in parallel will almost always produce different trades resulting in different results (by design). It is designed to be upward scalable instead of downward...by that I mean, more capital, more exposure and better results. I have put in a lot of thought on this design but as with any automation, mine requires a darn connection with the broker :-(
Anyways, I will leave this thread and figure out next steps. Retail Spot FX is just not a good place to be. It is time to move out!
Staying in my lane...
  • #3,376
  • Jun 21, 2018 6:10am Jun 21, 2018 6:10am
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} Thanks man. I have not looked at multi broker strategy but I will say that my EA when run on two or more accounts in parallel will almost always produce different trades resulting in different results (by design). It is designed to be upward scalable instead of downward...by that I mean, more capital, more exposure and better results. I have put in a lot of thought on this design but as with any automation, mine requires a darn connection with the broker :-( Anyways, I will leave this thread and figure out next steps. Retail Spot FX is just...
then take one Prime account (when you use 100k-500k as minimum balance for testing, depends on prime account broker) as beginning and test and put in as many LP as you want and all from this. when the decoy is quite good for the connected banks they give extrem good spreads, better then any retail you can have now. and connection and filling time is much much much faster, against when you use metatrader at the moment.
  • #3,377
  • Jun 22, 2018 10:57pm Jun 22, 2018 10:57pm
Dukas

From the other thread.
but this pugins are part of the total basics of any trader, that you should learned already in basics learning before you start any trading. this plugins are there for many many years and many many times mentioned and shown. same that any trading beginner knows, that any broker can do anything in his software, and will do when its his advantage and possible to do without problems, like many people do same with the trading programms................................................................


My argument, newbies would not know about the MT4 plugin. VEEFX didn't know.
So I find it ironic that a Scam hunter that hunts for Scammers to protect newbies and the less knowledgeable would insist that a broker has every right to use the Mt4 plugin to possibly manipulate price, in doing so 'arranging' for SL to get hit, missing set TP's, candle manipulation,... Call me cynical but I would call that scamming.
I have to say that searching through the various rules and regs on my broker I can't see any evidence to suggest that they use or have the right to use the plugin.
If they do use it, then they are Scamming the customer.
Surely this investigation should be top priority on your scamming thread.....
Your insistence that traders should find out for themselves that brokers have a right to use the plugin to fleece the market, is in itself, a worry.
  • #3,378
  • Edited 8:28am Jul 17, 2018 7:33am | Edited 8:28am
Hello everyone!
Quantower trading platform recently connected to cTrader API. It means that all trades that have ctrader account can use our trading platform.
More about our platform on our website or in our forexfactory thread: https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=11185416

Official press release https://www.quantower.com/blog/quant...to-ctrader-api

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How to connect to your Pepperstone cTrader account?

1) select the сTrader Gateway in Quantower's Connection Manager and click Connect.
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2) an authorization window appears for connecting to cTrader API where you need to Log in with your cTrader ID and it's password
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3) after a successful authorization, you can work through Quantower platform
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  • #3,379
  • Nov 13, 2018 6:49am Nov 13, 2018 6:49am
Quantower trading platform has a connection to cTrader Brokers via Spotware connect API.
Watch our video and get to know how to connect to your Pepperstone trading account through Quantower platform

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  • #3,380
  • Nov 13, 2018 8:37am Nov 13, 2018 8:37am
Quoting Quantower
Quantower trading platform has a connection to cTrader Brokers via Spotware connect API. Watch our video and get to know how to connect to your Pepperstone trading account through Quantower platform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzy2gRSToqY
doesnt seem to work if you have more than 1 account
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gotta admit, it looks very promising .. would be happy to contribute with inputs
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