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  • #3,341
  • Jun 19, 2018 6:48am Jun 19, 2018 6:48am
Guys check out the tricks Pepperstone and others are using in MT4:

https://t4b.com/ready-made-products/anti-cheater/#vd

Scroll to the bottom of the clients list https://t4b.com/clients-en/

There they are, right at the bottom of the list of clients. Make a screenshot and video of it before they take it down!
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  • #3,342
  • Jun 19, 2018 8:15am Jun 19, 2018 8:15am
Interesting find, a bit worrying tho.
i wander what this plugin does exactly, has anyone contacted Pepper about this?
i lose money for a living
  • #3,343
  • Jun 19, 2018 8:37am Jun 19, 2018 8:37am
Quoting tylerbose
Interesting find, a bit worrying tho. i wander what this plugin does exactly, has anyone contacted Pepper about this?
Good idea, it would be interesting to see what Pepperstone CEO Owen Kerr would say about it.
  • #3,344
  • Jun 19, 2018 9:32am Jun 19, 2018 9:32am
there are this plugin for many many many years for any metatrader broker possible. or simple program own plugin or add on. as broker you can do whatever you want, some plugin are ok, like against arbitrage because of slower prices (or this broker would be out of the game very fast) ..... other give the brokers a bigger advantage (like increasing filling time, to can better find a bigger slippage opposite price for the broker...).....
  • #3,345
  • Jun 19, 2018 9:39am Jun 19, 2018 9:39am
AntiNews Plugin

Anti-News will configure and set required price values that should be displayed in a certain period of time (for example, in the news). Thus, you can limit the speculators and scalpers actions without making great efforts.

  1. Risk reduction during the news time
  2. price adjustment


AntiScalper VD Plugin

Anti Scalper VD is the solution for protection against traders using platform vanureability by scalping on delayed quotes. This plug-in has different ways of configuration (by groups, symbols) and automatically performes contra-measures against scalping methods. As a result, it reduces broker's risks.

  1. Prevents arbitrage trading on delayed quotes
  2. Separate settings for groups and accounts
  3. Processing of pending orders
  4. Instant / Market execution supported


Taboo Plugin

Taboo Plugin was developed as one of the alternative instrument for fighting the system abuse in high volatility periods. It's functionally is similar to Virtual Dealer plug-in, however has some special configurations.

  1. Contra-measures against platform abuse
  2. All types of orders supported
  3. Market/Instant execution

Price Changer

Price Changer will change the price of the order opening / closing at certain value of spread for all types of orders..

  1. Profit maximization
  2. Filters by groups/accounts, symbols

High Volatility Adjuster

Gives you an opportunity to cut risks during periods of high market volatility- news time, for example. It automatically restricts traders' actions with SL/TP and pending orders during the period.

 

  1. Protection against news trading
  2. Stop / Limit order management
  3. TakeProfit / StopLoss control


Holy fuck, forex is one big fat fucking scam if I have ever seen one lol!

  • #3,346
  • Jun 19, 2018 10:41am Jun 19, 2018 10:41am
Quoting dukas_trader
there are this plugin for many many many years for any metatrader broker possible.
You are totally right, all this plug-ins are common knowledge since ages now. In fact, believing that your broker doesn't control every aspect of your trade and the prices you get, if it lets you open or close a position, and so on, is very naive.

Having said that, what is very wrong, is when brokers come afterwards and erase profits alleging "arbitrage" or whatever. Now, I didn't yet hear any story like that with Pepperstone.
  • #3,347
  • Edited 5:28pm Jun 19, 2018 1:41pm | Edited 5:28pm
Quoting JohnDalio
AntiNews Plugin Anti-News will configure and set required price values that should be displayed in a certain period of time (for example, in the news). Thus, you can limit the speculators and scalpers actions without making great efforts. Risk reduction during the news time price adjustment AntiScalper VD Plugin Anti Scalper VD is the solution for protection against traders using platform vanureability by scalping on delayed quotes. This plug-in has different ways of configuration (by groups, symbols) and automatically performes contra-measures...
Very shocking (although I knew about VD plugins). My broker is also listed as a customer but not in your screenshot. What's the solution guys? I am sick of retail brokers playing games. Here's a new one I noticed after a profitable month....My terminal shows "Not Connected" more frequently now. I run 3-4 terminals in parallel including demo and randomly I am getting disconnects only on some live terminals. I have remote push notifications etc to ensure my EA is running but if the terminal is simply doing some sort of forced disconnect, I get screwed! Any solution to fight these b**tards other than just quit trading altogether?

"Price Changer"... My EA always does the maxspread check for10 seconds before opening or closing any trades. Is that enough to beat this or is this something else?

Price Changer will change the price of the order opening / closing at certain value of spread for all types of orders..

  1. Profit maximization
  2. Filters by groups/accounts, symbols

Staying in my lane...
  • #3,348
  • Jun 19, 2018 4:47pm Jun 19, 2018 4:47pm
Brokers scamming....who would have thought it!!
John, I see that you also placed the same post in the scammers thread.
The last thing those dudes are going to do is to investigate a broker. Not when the brokers pay the wages.
  • #3,349
  • Jun 19, 2018 5:34pm Jun 19, 2018 5:34pm
Perhaps someone would be kind enough to ask redoktober on the scammers thread to investigate a possible scam with Pepperstone and (perhaps others) of using a plugin to fleece their clients. John has provided some possible evidence to back up his thoughts, and being a scammers thread and redoktober a self proclaimed witch finder general, this investigation should surely be a top priority.
I can't ask him, he barred me from the thread for standing up to him.
Of course if he doesn't look into it or refuses to accept that it's a possible scam.....then perhaps we know where he's real loyalties lay.
  • #3,350
  • Jun 19, 2018 5:40pm Jun 19, 2018 5:40pm
Quoting moodybot
Perhaps someone would be kind enough to ask redoktober on the scammers thread to investigate a possible scam with Pepperstone and (perhaps others) of using a plugin to fleece their clients. John has provided some possible evidence to back up his thoughts, and being a scammers thread and redoktober a self proclaimed witch finder general, this investigation should surely be a top priority. I can't ask him, he barred me from the thread for standing up to him. Of course if he doesn't look into it or refuses to accept that it's a possible scam.....then...
bullshit.

its many years known that you can add any plugin in any metatrader, whatever you want. this are only simple plugins, you really need to learn the basics of trading, one part should be whats possible and done by brokers and with what you have to live (some plugins are even neccessary that they dont get bankrupt or used by some people who cant trade and only want use problems inside metatrader or data feed for advantage, because they cant trade with normal price quotes).

really, its more easy when you read about all this, and you will completly rethink about what you write here.
  • #3,351
  • Jun 19, 2018 6:37pm Jun 19, 2018 6:37pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} bullshit. its many years known that you can add any plugin in any metatrader, whatever you want. this are only simple plugins, you really need to learn the basics of trading, one part should be whats possible and done by brokers and with what you have to live (some plugins are even neccessary that they dont get bankrupt or used by some people who cant trade and only want use problems inside metatrader or data feed for advantage, because theycant trade with normal price quotes). really, its more easy when you read about all this, and you...

Bullshit yourself.
I know about the plugins. They can be used for all manner of manipulation. I can’t manipulate price feed, opening and close price of candles..they can.
Its called fleecing or scamming their clients.
You’re here because I mentioned redoktober. Another one of his little followers.
You make an excuse for a broker to be able to fleece clients, that’s...interesting.
  • #3,352
  • Jun 20, 2018 1:01am Jun 20, 2018 1:01am
Looks like there are plenty of 'sweaty brokers and their buddies' on here at the ole factory, look at em coming out of the cracks like cockroaches to defend the MT4 plugins they use to rip off customers lmao!

Quoting moodybot
{quote} Bullshit yourself. I know about the plugins. They can be used for all manner of manipulation. I can’t manipulate price feed, opening and close price of candles..they can. Its called fleecing or scamming their clients.
Well fucking said. Glad to see some people still have their fucking balls intact.
  • #3,353
  • Jun 20, 2018 1:31am Jun 20, 2018 1:31am
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} Very shocking (although I knew about VD plugins). My broker is also listed as a customer but not in your screenshot. What's the solution guys? I am sick of retail brokers playing games. Here's a new one I noticed after a profitable month....My terminal shows "Not Connected" more frequently now. I run 3-4 terminals in parallel including demo and randomly I am getting disconnects only on some live terminals. I have remote push notifications etc to ensure my EA is running but if the terminal is simply doing some sort of forced disconnect, I...
This has been bothering me all day. Could someone confirm if broker can mess with the terminal's connectivity via "Disconnect" or "Not Connected" to their servers at will ? I have 8 devices in my home network and my trading machine has 4-6 MT4 terminals running 24x5 and only one or two live accounts are being disconnected at random. The Terminal is NOT frozen. I can click, open charts, navigate etc etc... but no live quotes in marketwatch until I exit the MT4 terminal and restart. It then reconnects without any issues. There is no error in the Experts or Journal tab either. If there is a ISP/internet connectivity failure, MT4 should typically reconnect itself.

I am not with Pepperstone or any of the brokers listed in the screenshot but an offshore unregulated broker (listed on this plugin vendor's website so won't mention them publicly). I have 6 small accounts but only 2 are being "affected". If there is really a broker backend tool doing such disconnects then VPS also won't help :-
This is so discouraging!
Staying in my lane...
  • #3,354
  • Jun 20, 2018 3:09am Jun 20, 2018 3:09am
Quoting JohnDalio
Looks like there are plenty of 'sweaty brokers and their buddies' on here at the ole factory, look at em coming out of the cracks like cockroaches to defend the MT4 plugins they use to rip off customers lmao! {quote} Well fucking said. Glad to see some people still have their fucking balls intact.
The trouble is, those with ‘balls’ tend to get shut down or at the very least barred from a thread. What do they say, ‘to hide a lie keep it in plain sight’... one thread comes to mind.
  • #3,355
  • Jun 20, 2018 5:08am Jun 20, 2018 5:08am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} Bullshit yourself. I know about the plugins. They can be used for all manner of manipulation. I can’t manipulate price feed, opening and close price of candles..they can. Its called fleecing or scamming their clients. You’re here because I mentioned redoktober. Another one of his little followers. You make an excuse for a broker to be able to fleece clients, that’s...interesting.
now you get more crazy and write more bullshit.

i dont know if you are s scammer or you have only some friends who are scammers, or why you dont like redoktober: but telling him he should do something against brokers and investigate becausde of plugins, any beginner trader already know since many many many years, sorry thats biggest bullshit.

its like i tell you, please investigate that casino has possibilities to fix opportunities to win in their maschines. what a joke, all know this what you tell here, but you want someone investigate about this because you are the only one who did not know!

and you are really this bad in experience, that you not even know that some plugins are even needed to protect against scammer clients, who want not trade, they want use problems inside metatrader and data feed for get money from the broker, not the market and other market members. maybe you are pissed thatswhy because you dont trade and are someone of this persons?

really, you cant write your bullshit and want positive answer for this? you are a extrem misleading person!
  • #3,356
  • Jun 20, 2018 5:10am Jun 20, 2018 5:10am
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} This has been bothering me all day. Could someone confirm if broker can mess with the terminal's connectivity via "Disconnect" or "Not Connected" to their servers at will ? I have 8 devices in my home network and my trading machine has 4-6 MT4 terminals running 24x5 and only one or two live accounts are being disconnected at random. The Terminal is NOT frozen. I can click, open charts, navigate etc etc... but no live quotes in marketwatch until I exit the MT4 terminal and restart. It then reconnects without any issues. There is no error...
simple answer:

any broker with metatrader (and any other software) can do anything! this should be clear and one of the most basic anyone need to know! its simple software, you can do anything by pure porgramm or by add ons or plugins or feed and connection regulations,......

same like you can do anything with your expert programs.
  • #3,357
  • Jun 20, 2018 5:16am Jun 20, 2018 5:16am
Quoting JohnDalio
Looks like there are plenty of 'sweaty brokers and their buddies' on here at the ole factory, look at em coming out of the cracks like cockroaches to defend the MT4 plugins they use to rip off customers lmao! {quote} Well fucking said. Glad to see some people still have their fucking balls intact.
you are joking man, you are one of the supporter of the faker/scammer fractalFreak, one of his last folowers who could not check reality.

same with moodybot, one of the biggest bullshit writers you suppert here.

you support 2 extrem bullshitter (and only did see this in last minutes, maybe much more in reality) , thats crazy, of yourse only because you are connected to this or do same bullshit and want support by them later, i cant see it different, so crazy and wrong persons cant be and celebrate same time each other. what a clown group.
  • #3,358
  • Jun 20, 2018 5:28am Jun 20, 2018 5:28am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} you are joking man, you are one of the supporter of the faker/scammer fractalFreak, one of his last folowers who could not check reality. same with moodybot, one of the biggest bullshit writers you suppert here. you support 2 extrem bullshitter (and only did see this in last minutes, maybe much more in reality) , thats crazy, of yourse only because you are connected to this or do same bullshit and want support by them later, i cant see it different, so crazy and wrongpersons cant be and celebrate same time each other. what a clown group....
  • #3,359
  • Jun 20, 2018 7:56am Jun 20, 2018 7:56am
From what i recall, Pepper used to provide a OneClickTradingEA shipped with MT4 which was created by that website.
i always knew that plugins for price manipulation on MT4 existed, i try to think that the broker i use don't used them but there is no way to know for sure.
the fact that your broker isn't listed in the website doesn't mean they don't manipulate price, they may have the skills to make their own plugin

The truth is, even if they do its still legal because thats how forex is, OTC unregulated shit, a broker can feed you any price they want, they can legally be your counterpart or partially hedge you.

if i had the found i would move to Futures, retail forex is just a pseudo casino.

if you're in forex you should always keep an eye open for any shady stuff going on and be ready to take out your cash.
i lose money for a living
  • #3,360
  • Jun 20, 2018 8:00am Jun 20, 2018 8:00am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} simple answer: any broker with metatrader (and any other software) can do anything! this should be clear and one of the most basic anyone need to know! its simple software, you can do anything by pure porgramm or by add ons or plugins or feed and connection regulations,...... same like you can do anything with your expert programs.
I do agree with this.

Even with all the regulation and technologies, bad brokers are just bad brokers. Sadly regulators will only act after huge problems happen.

I think in the end just trade wherever you feel safe and legit. You can feel it from every aspect, the CS, the trading rules, the connection, the feed, the consistency, the easiness of withdrawal etc etc.
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