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  • #1
  • First Post: Sep 26, 2018 4:00pm Sep 26, 2018 4:00pm
For the last 2 years I'm trying to finish my strategy and still can't get it done. The problem is that I don't know how to confirm a setup from a lower timeframe with trend on the higher TF. Anyone knows how to do that?

My basic setup is the first higher low or lower high swing point on M15/M30 TF, but I don't know how to combine it with trend from higher TF (or whether I need it at all). For example - I have a clear BUY or SELL setup on M15 TF, but on the higher timeframes I can't see anything, it looks like one big mess for me. Where am I making a mistake?


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Thanks in advance for help
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  • #2
  • Sep 29, 2018 4:06pm Sep 29, 2018 4:06pm
Quoting freakout
For the last 2 years I'm trying to finish my strategy and still can't get it done. The problem is that I don't know how to confirm a setup from a lower timeframe with trend on the higher TF. Anyone knows how to do that? My basic setup is the first higher low or lower high swing point on M15/M30 TF, but I don't know how to combine it with trend from higher TF (or whether I need it at all). For example - I have a clear BUY or SELL setup on M15 TF, but on the higher timeframes I can't see anything, it looks like one big mess for me. Where am I making...
I posted my analysis about EURUSD, i hope help you in something. Read there.

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...5#post11531615
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  • #3
  • Oct 4, 2018 10:02pm Oct 4, 2018 10:02pm
Quoting freakout
For the last 2 years I'm trying to finish my strategy and still can't get it done. The problem is that I don't know how to confirm a setup from a lower timeframe with trend on the higher TF. Anyone knows how to do that? My basic setup is the first higher low or lower high swing point on M15/M30 TF, but I don't know how to combine it with trend from higher TF (or whether I need it at all). For example - I have a clear BUY or SELL setup on M15 TF, but on the higher timeframes I can't see anything, it looks like one big mess for me. Where am I making...
First of all I only trade 4H, daily and weekly. If i understand you correctly i think your analysis is backwards. You said you have a clear BUY or SELL setup on M15 and on higher timeframe you cannot see anything. I said backwards because if you have a buy or sell setup on M15, M15 is your higher timeframe. What you need is to look at 5min for entry instead
  • #4
  • Oct 4, 2018 10:13pm Oct 4, 2018 10:13pm
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I posted this on another thread yesterday. This is NZDCHF. See the bottom on the left corner 4H green and daily red. (That is my trend scanner) What i want to highlight here is the opposite trend is being presented in both timeframe. Both are equally valid depends on how you want to trade it.

One important point is which trend should I take? 4H was a good valid trade (note here past tense) reason is while 4H was good in the pass, it is approaching daily resistance hence need to caution that marking is going down from now. 4H uptrend is coming to an end. giving way to daily downtrend.

I sent you a private msg.. I watched it for months again and again and sometimes i still review it like reading a favourite story again and again.

best of luck
  • #5
  • Oct 4, 2018 10:14pm Oct 4, 2018 10:14pm
ma, thats all i can tell you!
  • #6
  • Oct 4, 2018 11:56pm Oct 4, 2018 11:56pm
The difference between lower and higher time frame should have 4-6 candles. I mean if your lower time frame is 1 hour, then higher time frame must be 4 hour. And if LTF is 4 hr then HTF should be 1 day.

Higher time frame only gives you market direction. Entering into the trade based on that direction in your lower time frame depend on your trading style.
This video may help you.
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  • #7
  • Oct 5, 2018 1:33am Oct 5, 2018 1:33am
Dont know this would help ! https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...4#post11508674
He is using indicators of higher time frames
  • #8
  • Oct 5, 2018 7:04am Oct 5, 2018 7:04am
You have to get the time frames right, because if you don't they just contradict one another. Using multiple time frames is an incredibly effective way to trade, but if your sequencing is wrong, then it will be a muddle. If you use time frames correctly spaced so that your indicators do not contradict one another, your accuracy determining where to enter and exit a trade, direction and S&R will greatly improve. I base my trading around moving averages.

If you haven't got it yet, keep experimenting until you do. It is what I did. I wrote about this on my trader's academy thread in more detail, though you'll have to scroll through the thread to find it.
  • #9
  • Oct 5, 2018 7:24am Oct 5, 2018 7:24am
When using multiple time frame analysis, never use more than 2 time frames. Using more than 2 time frame will never allow you to take any trade.
  • #10
  • Oct 5, 2018 8:09am Oct 5, 2018 8:09am
Quoting FxDeb
When using multiple time frame analysis, never use more than 2 time frames. Using more than 2 time frame will never allow you to take any trade.
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  • #11
  • Oct 5, 2018 10:40am Oct 5, 2018 10:40am
Quoting FxDeb
When using multiple time frame analysis, never use more than 2 time frames. Using more than 2 time frame will never allow you to take any trade.
But I use H4, H1 & M5! In addition, am comfortable with this setup.
  • #12
  • Oct 5, 2018 10:57am Oct 5, 2018 10:57am
Quoting freakout
For the last 2 years I'm trying to finish my strategy and still can't get it done. The problem is that I don't know how to confirm a setup from a lower timeframe with trend on the higher TF. Anyone knows how to do that? My basic setup is the first higher low or lower high swing point on M15/M30 TF, but I don't know how to combine it with trend from higher TF (or whether I need it at all). For example - I have a clear BUY or SELL setup on M15 TF, but on the higher timeframes I can't see anything, it looks like one big mess for me. Where am I making...
First thing i am understanding from your comment with higher low and lower high obviously means you are aiming to go with the trend, what you should figure out is that the time frames (M15-M30) you have been using is a scalping which can lead to intraday (day trade) scenario.
If it is that you want to involve higher timeframe like h1-it would still be intraday, however h4 and daily will be for swing trading, couple days worth of being in one trade. Then the final aspect is weekly and monthly, I won't mention quarterly, these timeframes deal with positional trading, holding trades for couple weeks, months, quarter or so.

Now when you state what you prefer then there can be more guidance to your desired question being answered. It's not that complicated. What chart type do you prefer?
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  • #13
  • Oct 6, 2018 12:35am Oct 6, 2018 12:35am
Quoting MariaEduard
{quote} But I use H4, H1 & M5! In addition, am comfortable with this setup.
if it works for you, Then that's great. Personally speaking lots of time frame just ends up confusing me
  • #14
  • Last Post: Oct 19, 2018 7:11am Oct 19, 2018 7:11am
This is how I combine lower and higher TF trades together:
On the picture below I have euro/usd daily chart, I mark up the levels, as you can see from the high I look for sell trades because we are at daily resistance level and I keep looking for sell trades until we get to the bottom of range, then I start to look for buy trades again on lower TF until I see that the sellers come in way lower and pushing down then I switch back to find short trades on lower TF.
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