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  • #91,261
  • Sep 26, 2018 4:50am Sep 26, 2018 4:50am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} The discussion is about you backing up your claims, which you refuse to do. I am making no claims
Actually you are making claims ... you claim that other people here are misleading and deceptive.
This thread is supposed to be about TMS so if contributing positively to the thread is not your goal, rather than being destructive, then why are you here ... throwing "mud" is cheap and non productive ... it is just a way of self promotion.
If you have a better way for all of us to "make money" and it is not TMS then why not promote a better thread? I for one am all ears!
If you are unable to show a better way to "make money" in a different thread then instead of claiming to be the "protector" of us all here why be here at all ... in the modern world there are plenty of scammers and it is each persons responsibility to do their own due diligence ... emphasis on OWN ... because you never know who you can trust until you do it yourself and have your own proof ... not proof provided by others.
Cheers from across the ditch
When you are successful perhaps give a thought to others ... Kiva dot org
  • #91,262
  • Sep 26, 2018 4:51am Sep 26, 2018 4:51am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} @RJ, You have me in your ignore list, so how can I bother you? You think making one million dollars trading the markets is outrageous claim. It is possible. Many traders in Sydney made that kind of money between 1995 and 2005 when the market has its bull run. Between 2006 and 2010, many short sellers also made money... lots of it too. I said this before, to make one million start with two million. There is truth in that. I don't deride and belittle anyone here. I did not call anyone muppets they way you did to FF members. Anyone can come...
You bother me because of the way you treat other people. And you do deride and belittle people. The moment Tekkies disagreed with you, you set upon him like a pitbull. Same with iddd, same with Griffinsoul, same with Lastingwell....I could go on and on. Such is you insecurity.

I don't care how much money you say you've made. Richness isn't the size of your bank account!! I'm sick of repeating this, but you are making claims of hundreds of pips all the time, and the only time you make live calls, you buy into resistance and sell into support. Then you have the audacity to claim that "there are no poor entries".....just what newbies need to hear right?

Finally, TE and Myfxbook may be able to be faked up to a point, but if you show a TE and then post to the thread that you just entered, then people can see the trade progress on the TE. That cannot be faked.

So show back up your claims. Of course you won't, because you can't!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #91,263
  • Sep 26, 2018 4:55am Sep 26, 2018 4:55am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} I did not call anyone muppets they way you did to FF members.
Are you joking emmanuel?
What have you called me is by far worse than muppets not to mention how many other members you have victimize over the years.
Notice from your recent post's you starting a new topic "Holy Grail method". How long is that going to last?
  • #91,264
  • Sep 26, 2018 4:56am Sep 26, 2018 4:56am
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} Actually you are making claims ... you claim that other people here are misleading and deceptive. This thread is supposed to be about TMS so if contributing positively to the thread is not your goal, rather than being destructive, then why are you here ... throwing "mud" is cheap and non productive ... it is just a way of self promotion. If you have a better way for all of us to "make money" and it is not TMS then why not promote a better thread? I for one am all ears! If you are unable to show a better way to "make money" in a different...
My intention is not be destructive, and this multi post spat is still going several hours later simply because I WILL do whatever I can to try and keep this thread honest so that people who come here get a 'fair go' and not get sucked in by bs!

Be sure, I have not spoken about my own trading, nor will I. I got backstabbed by FF once before, and it won't happen again.

If someone is going to make persistent claims of pips, wins, $$$'s, then it's fair to say, "really?.....can you show a TE please? or...please show the next 10 trades live from the moment you enter......etc etc etc" That way, newbies will know that they are spending time learning from someone who is the real deal.

That's not much to ask is it? Why the multi page fight?

And cheers too
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #91,265
  • Sep 26, 2018 4:57am Sep 26, 2018 4:57am
Quoting emmanuel7788
TE will not backup anything here because you say TE can be fake. MyFXbook can also be fake. What about FX Blue? Can it also be fake?
Simply provide investors read only password to your brokers account. There you are...
  • #91,266
  • Sep 26, 2018 5:13am Sep 26, 2018 5:13am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} My intention is not be destructive, and this multi post spat is still going several hours later simply because I WILL do whatever I can to try and keep this thread honest so that people who come here get a 'fair go' and not get sucked in by bs! Be sure, I have not spoken about my own trading, nor will I. I got backstabbed by FF once before, and it won't happen again. If someone is going to make persistent claims of pips, wins, $$$'s, then it's fair to say, "really?.....can you show a TE please? or...please show the next 10 trades live from...
I understand what you are saying however if I was a great trader making ,000 pips / $ a day and making that claim I would not show a TE ... why you ask ... for a few reasons:
1) It is the readers choice as to whether they wish to follow my process ... try it, like it, understand it, succeed then probably follow ... try it, don't understand it and are not successful then probably not follow ... reasonable?
2) this process has some rules but unfortunately it is impossibe to cater for each and every market ... it comes down to the interpretation of the individual of what the market has done and personal predictions or what it may do ... or not.
3) as for publishing a trade explorer, that has it's negatives, not because people may investigate and make assumptions about what is right and wrong but when anyone makes something public then there is added pressure to perform ... ther is enough pressure (emotions) in this business and I do not see the need for adding to one's pressure. Even if I was exreemely successful I would never disclose my TE, I would help others as much as I could with the process but never publish private information.
Why not just let people make up their own minds ... afterall it is their money and their decision as to whether to risk it or not.
I would never just invest any money in something because it appears good or too good to be true ... IMO the saying "a fool and their money are soon parted" ... do your own due dilligence.
Cheers again and may you have many more successful leaps of faith
When you are successful perhaps give a thought to others ... Kiva dot org
  • #91,267
  • Sep 26, 2018 5:19am Sep 26, 2018 5:19am
Quoting lddd
{quote} Simply provide investors read only password to your brokers account. There you are...

You ask for MT4 investor password again.
I did that when members asked me and I gave that 3 years ago and one member abused that privilege.
So I now use FX Blue only for those who trade TMS MEME.
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #91,268
  • Sep 26, 2018 5:28am Sep 26, 2018 5:28am
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} Are you joking emmanuel? What have you called me is by far worse than muppets not to mention how many other members you have victimize over the years. Notice from your recent post's you starting a new topic "Holy Grail method". How long is that going to last?

I called you levitation man because when I see those trades you made with DE30, ... LOL.
I see how you try to place a M15 trade entry and with a view to H1. You always think of getting an early entry on M15, why? You should consider the retracement entry or the pull back entry like Divergence.

You trade TDI when there are price gaps....price tends to gap with indices a lot more than forex pairs. Those gaps can be in your favour they can go against you in many cases I see on charts. Chose your broker carefully when you trade DE30 for example.

The Holy Grail interview by Thom Hartle is good read. Every trader must find his own holy grail systems... not one system but 2 to 3 systems for different market type conditions. I have 3 systems for TMS - one for trending market type and the other for wide raneg sideways market type. The third is for narrow range market which Big E did not trade.
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #91,269
  • Sep 26, 2018 5:28am Sep 26, 2018 5:28am
Quoting PayItForward
3) as for publishing a trade explorer, that has it's negatives, not because people may investigate and make assumptions about what is right and wrong but when anyone makes something public then there is added pressure to perform ... ther is enough pressure (emotions) in this business and I do not see the need for adding to one's pressure.
Well, thats a good point! But if you make something public like a track record can be followed by anyone you are really not "forced" to perform. If you really see it like that you probably have a much bigger problem somewhere inside your personality... Either its because you are facing paranoia or be one of the humans belive everything is a conspiracy theory and you have to protect your self from it, buying panic rooms and having a personal weapon arsenal on your toilet room because you think maybe some day some bad people come in to steal your gold toilet paper...

In a world of trading i donīt see a reason why you would otherwise feel pressured by providing transparency but i understand what you say.
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  • #91,270
  • Sep 26, 2018 5:30am Sep 26, 2018 5:30am
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} I understand what you are saying however if I was a great trader making ,000 pips / $ a day and making that claim I would not show a TE ... why you ask ... for a few reasons: 1) It is the readers choice as to whether they wish to follow my process ... try it, like it, understand it, succeed then probably follow ... try it, don't understand it and are not successful then probably not follow ... reasonable? 2) this process has some rules but unfortunately it is impossibe to cater for each and every market ... it comes down to the interpretation...

Yes, I can agree with you up to a point.

It is the readers choice as to who they follow, for sure. But the newbie, (and lets face it, Trading Made Simple title attracts newbies) cannot make that choice from a position of "newbie"...therefore they tend to follow those who seem to have all the answers and sound like they really are the real deal: 30 years experience, made more than a million dollars, look at all my winning charts etc etc etc. If that's all they have to go on, they are in danger because they lack the knowledge to make an informed choice about who to follow, and it's that very knowledge that they came here to find!!

A TE does not need to show $$'s or lot sizes etc etc, so there's no pressure. If the million dollar trader of 30 years experience has a problem with that, I have some serious questions to ask. But I could understand it I suppose, but I do think that simply asking for the next 10 trades to be live called all the way from entry to exit, is not a big deal. All the newbie has to go on is some wonderful looking charts, some big claims of pips and $'s gained...and....one failed TE and several trade calls which have been really, really poor, and not so long ago, so big losses, that didn't get mentioned. So given that, I think that it's fair to expect to some sort of proof to back up the claims.

Scammers (in all walks of life) are a blight on the human race, here we have a simple way to stamp it out to protect the newbie who knows precious little about pretty much everything to do with trading. I would think that it's fair enough for more experienced members to call out those making claims to get some sort of proof on the table to show the newbies that their education, and maybe their money, is in good hands.

I don't think a bit of honesty is a big ask in this environment
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #91,271
  • Sep 26, 2018 5:31am Sep 26, 2018 5:31am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} You ask for MT4 investor password again. I did that when members asked me and I gave that 3 years ago and one member abused that privilege. So I now use FX Blue only for those who trade TMS MEME.

Yet another excuse.....
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #91,272
  • Sep 26, 2018 5:34am Sep 26, 2018 5:34am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} You ask for MT4 investor password again. I did that when members asked me and I gave that 3 years ago and one member abused that privilege. So I now use FX Blue only for those who trade TMS MEME.
Ok cool. Well i am not sure about your TMS MEME but it seems like it hasnīt much to do with the orginal method here. So again, why you not create your own home/topic for and post your charts, get in contact with people interested in, giving your "white list" privileges to them there, posting your famous quotes, youtube videos and all that over there too. This topic would become much cleaner and easier to read for people like me. You donīt have to deal anymore with newbies like me and everyone is just happy lol. So probably a win/win scenario right?

Imagine me coming to your home and advertising what ever i believe in to be the holy grail each new day and fishing for just everyone visiting your place? Would you like this? ...

And yes i know this topic is not my home either. Thats why i said earlier i really donīt understand moderators tolerate overtaking such topic in such way every idiot can see what youīre here for and trying to do with it...
  • #91,273
  • Sep 26, 2018 5:44am Sep 26, 2018 5:44am
Quoting lddd
{quote} Well, thats a good point! But if you make something public like a track record can be followed by anyone you are really not "forced" to perform. If you really see it like that you probably have a much bigger problem somewhere inside your personality... Either its because you are facing paranoia or be one of the humans belive everything is a conspiracy theory and you have to protect your self from it, buying panic rooms and having a personal weapon arsenal on your toilet room because you think maybe some day some bad people come in to steal...
While I understand where you are coming from let me put in these terms, you are a CEO and are paid a base salary of $xxx plus a bonus of $5xxx, this is a public company, the annual report is public (published) so IMO the CEO is under tremendous pressure to perform (not paranoia), his/her performance is under public scrutiny - same thing - as soon as you make your performance public then there is pressure, perceived or not, to perform.
Hope this makes it clearer ... apology for not using this analogy earlier ... would have saved us both time.
Cheers
When you are successful perhaps give a thought to others ... Kiva dot org
  • #91,274
  • Sep 26, 2018 5:57am Sep 26, 2018 5:57am
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} While I understand where you are coming from let me put in these terms, you are a CEO and are paid a base salary of $xxx plus a bonus of $5xxx, this is a public company, the annual report is public (published) so IMO the CEO is under tremendous pressure to perform (not paranoia), his/her performance is under public scrutiny - same thing - as soon as you make your performance public then there is pressure, perceived or not, to perform. Hope this makes it clearer ... apology for not using this analogy earlier ... would have saved us both time....
Yes but i am a CEO my self and have to publish public information and i donīt feel pressured to perform... Also i donīt think the CEO of Google, Apple, Amazon or eBay suffers under such circumstances. Do you really think they donīt sleep well because of some public information is available 24h/day for everyone? Now i donīt know these CEOs in person but a lot of other business man/woman making millions in turnover each year. As far as i know, they all sleep well. Very well.
  • #91,275
  • Sep 26, 2018 6:00am Sep 26, 2018 6:00am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} Yes, I can agree with you up to a point. It is the readers choice as to who they follow, for sure. But the newbie, (and lets face it, Trading Made Simple title attracts newbies) cannot make that choice from a position of "newbie"...therefore they tend to follow those who seem to have all the answers and sound like they really are the real deal: 30 years experience, made more than a million dollars, look at all my winning charts etc etc etc. If that's all they have to go on, they are in danger because they lack the knowledge to make an informed...
Again I understand what you say but let me ask you this ...
The person in question does more than you ask, instead of the next 10 live trades, they produce the next 20 live trades, and lets say all are winners, or maybe 80% winners 20% losers ... will that satisfy you? ... not me ... why ... simply because they produce 100 trades with 80% success and make 5000 pips in one day/wek/month proves only one thing ... they have been successful with those trades ... it proves nothing else.
It proves they were successful so you follow what you understand to be their process and fail for the next 20 ... what does that prove ... nothing ... they may have also failed with those trades ... or your discretionary trading was flawed.
This strategy here as I understand it is not fixed, it is not an EA with set criteria and set steps and even if it was when the FX market is influenced by "Trump" "May" and so on and so on there is no perfect way to prove that any strategy will work.
It is discretionary and instantly influenced by all sorts of news or tweets ... a TE or whatever will not prove or disprove what any individual is saying, they only way to prove or disprove is to understand as much of the process that you can and then try as best you can to make it work for you and still even when you do this there is no guarantee that what you do one day or one second will also work the next.
This game (for want of a better word) is the most fluid and therefore by definition the most changebale there is ...
That is my opinion and right or wrong I doubt anyone will convince me otherwise ... fluid ... ever changing and never the same ...
That is the best explanation I have ... no more to give ...
Again cheers ... and all the best for the future
When you are successful perhaps give a thought to others ... Kiva dot org
  • #91,276
  • Sep 26, 2018 6:02am Sep 26, 2018 6:02am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} Yet another excuse.....

To you it is an excuse because you won't get what you want.

To me that is FACT.
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #91,277
  • Sep 26, 2018 6:10am Sep 26, 2018 6:10am
Quoting lddd
{quote} Yes but i am a CEO my self and have to publish public information and i donīt feel pressured to perform... Also i donīt think the CEO of Google, Apple, Amazon or eBay suffers under such circumstances. Do you really think they donīt sleep well because of some public information is available 24h/day for everyone? Now i donīt know these CEOs in person but a lot of other business man/woman making millions in turnover each year. As far as i know, they all sleep well. Very well.
I read what you said however I think you may have missed the importance of the remuneration, a base of $xxx and a bonus of $5xxx
That said, I do not know any of those CEO's personally so cannot comment on how they feel or do not feel about their performance however people at this levels would surely feel some sort of pressure, maybe not in the same way as you and I (no disrespect intended) but everyone in every job feels pressure, even people like me who are retired and comfortable ... still feel "pressure" to perform whether it be for monetary gain or for personal satisfaction ... there is "pressure" in achievement because no-one wants to fail at anything so there is "pressure" to succeed ... even if it is just surviving the drive.
Just my opinion and if we see this so differently then imagine how differently we will see tomorrow's market.
Cheers
When you are successful perhaps give a thought to others ... Kiva dot org
  • #91,278
  • Sep 26, 2018 6:13am Sep 26, 2018 6:13am
Quoting lddd
{quote} Ok cool. Well i am not sure about your TMS MEME but it seems like it hasnīt much to do with the orginal method here. So again, why you not create your own home/topic for and post your charts, get in contact with people interested in, giving your "white list" privileges to them there, posting your famous quotes, youtube videos and all that over there too. This topic would become much cleaner and easier to read for people like me. You donīt have to deal anymore with newbies like me and everyone is just happy lol. So probably a win/win scenario...
@lddd

First of all, the method remains the same. My entry and exit strategy is different.

TMS MEME is another way to trade the higher timeframe H4 andD1 and also W1. If you want to trade with single entry and single exit the way you are doing now. I have my doubt that you can achieve those high win rates mentioned by the OP.

All my other posts are for more information and knowledge for those who want to learn more and they may need them. If you do not think you need them then you don't have to read them. I made it very clear repeatedly that everyone must read the OP 463 posts in this thread. Learn his trading rules, master his trading rules and then you can break any of his rules and you will write your own rules and trade better. It is very simple.

The OP of this thread died and FF does not have any policy to close threads after the OP stopped posting or died.
This thread remains open for sharing and learning, trading discussions, for learning in good spirit. Members cannot dictate what others can post and share so long as everyone abide by FF Code of Conduct.
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #91,279
  • Sep 26, 2018 6:14am Sep 26, 2018 6:14am
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} Again I understand what you say but let me ask you this ... The person in question does more than you ask, instead of the next 10 live trades, they produce the next 20 live trades, and lets say all are winners, or maybe 80% winners 20% losers ... will that satisfy you? ... not me ... why ... simply because they produce 100 trades with 80% success and make 5000 pips in one day/wek/month proves only one thing ... they have been successful with those trades ... it proves nothing else. It proves they were successful so you follow what you understand...

Well obviously the more trades shown in the live sample, the more reliable the sample becomes. If someone who makes all these claims can produce a batch of 10 consecutive trades (say) once a month, then it goes some way to establishing some level of credibility. To steadfastly refuse, for several years, to even take the first step of showing 10 consecutive trades can only lead to one conclusion. And that conclusion is supported by the recent very poor entries, past failed trades due to poor entries and a failed TE!!

If a 30 year trade who is on his way to his (alleged) second million dollars cannot even make a commitment for 10 consecutive trades, then serious credibility questions need to be asked. Which is what I'm doing.

Have a good one
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #91,280
  • Sep 26, 2018 6:25am Sep 26, 2018 6:25am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} I called you levitation man because when I see those trades you made with DE30, ... LOL. I see how you try to place a M15 trade entry and with a view to H1. You always think of getting an early entry on M15, why? You should consider the retracement entry or the pull back entry like Divergence. You trade TDI when there are price gaps....price tends to gap with indices a lot more than forex pairs. Those gaps can be in your favour they can go against you in many cases I see on charts. Chose your broker carefully when you trade DE30 for example....
mmm Now that gives you the right to insult left right and centre.
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