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  • #14,501
  • Sep 20, 2018 5:36am Sep 20, 2018 5:36am
Quoting flylohudmo
+5.5% TP reached today - I took xmess' advice on setting up a basket the day after a loss - today worked nicely!
i was just about to post the same thing
  • #14,502
  • Sep 20, 2018 7:21am Sep 20, 2018 7:21am
Quoting blankman
{quote} i was just about to post the same thing
5.5% is certainly a good result but I think it's easier to talk about pips. So that won't change from an account to another.
  • #14,503
  • Sep 20, 2018 7:34am Sep 20, 2018 7:34am
Quoting WestVillage
{quote} 5.5% is certainly a good result but I think it's easier to talk about pips. So that won't change from an account to another.
true, today i got 12x pips)
  • #14,504
  • Sep 20, 2018 10:22am Sep 20, 2018 10:22am
Quoting mugenpips
{quote} Ooh mm feature.. Thanks Jess for another nice option! I think this will be a nice addition. Looking forward to this update! Any chance on this feature I mentioned about (below) getting a fix on this update? I am willing to live forward test this if you could. I'd do it manually before troubling you to fix it, but it is quite impossible to be in front of the screen waiting for new trade suggestions to show up all day.. {quote}
Mugens: i answered yer maxtrade question in an email. But i went ahead and looked at the code. Made an update on it. This will be on the new version ( will relase tonite or tommorrow). You will now see the maxtrade function operate as expected.

Concerning the new time feature I tested it last nite, the EA did exactly as instructed... at x hours closed the open basic due to it having a DD. The DD % was consideravle lower than -7% lol... Should of done this before las wednesday lol..
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  • #14,505
  • Sep 20, 2018 10:31am Sep 20, 2018 10:31am
Quoting flylohudmo
+5.5% TP reached today - I took xmess' advice on setting up a basket the day after a loss - today worked nicely!
Now, Now ...
No advice was ever given.. I indicated that I woild take the trade. This is only the second time i have attempted this but my observations (last 7 months of live trading) have shown that the hit rate after a considerable loss is very good. You have just confirmed that fact...

I did setup the EA to trade for today and yes it gor up to +5% in less than 3 hours but i was shooting for +10%...
I set a manual lock to just above BE .

The lock got hit so no harm done to account. It's encouraging to see the positive result.

Jess
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  • #14,506
  • Sep 20, 2018 10:33am Sep 20, 2018 10:33am
Quoting xmess7
{quote} Mugens: i answered yer maxtrade question in an email. But i went ahead and looked at the code. Made an update on it. This will be on the new version ( will relase tonite or tommorrow). You will now see the maxtrade function operate as expected. Concerning the new time feature I tested it last nite, the EA did exactly as instructed... at x hours closed the open basic due to it having a DD. The DD % was consideravle lower than -7% lol... Should of done this before las wednesday lol..
Could you also share your preset so we can test it too?

You also use the 14.01 CMSM right?
  • #14,507
  • Sep 20, 2018 12:25pm Sep 20, 2018 12:25pm
Quoting WestVillage
{quote} Could you also share your preset so we can test it too? You also use the 14.01 CMSM right?
West:
Dude it took me less than 3 seconds to find the post where i uploaded the set file i use. The only difference is that i have set the new input (Hour to close basket) to true other than that irs all the same.

all ya gotta do is click om the paper clip found at top of post section and sort by user (click on uploader). That will organize the list into groups of posts by uploader. You rhen search until u find that section that contains the user's posts you are interested in. You woild of immediately seen my post where i uploaded the set file I am currently using. lol....

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...4#post11187794
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  • #14,508
  • Sep 20, 2018 12:34pm Sep 20, 2018 12:34pm
Quoting xmess7
{quote} Now, Now ... No advice was ever given.. I indicated that I woild take the trade. This is only the second time i have attempted this but my observations (last 7 months of live trading) have shown that the hit rate after a considerable loss is very good. You have just confirmed that fact... I did setup the EA to trade for today and yes it gor up to +5% in less than 3 hours but i was shooting for +10%... I set a manual lock to just above BE . The lock got hit so no harm done to account. It's encouraging to see the positive result. Jess

Understood - of course I meant I replicated your own intentions under no assumption of advice from your part
  • #14,509
  • Sep 20, 2018 3:30pm Sep 20, 2018 3:30pm
Quoting xmess7
{quote} …. You woild of immediately seen my post where i uploaded the set file I am currently using. lol.... https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...4#post11187794
Jess, I just realized that you are using the CMSM indicator. I've been following this thread from the beginning and I never gave it much thought. I've been using the original CCFp-Diff indicator all of this time. Since I have been successful I never considered switching.

Is there a simple one sentence explanation on the advantages of using CMSM? I'm just curious.

Thanks
  • #14,510
  • Sep 20, 2018 7:26pm Sep 20, 2018 7:26pm
Quoting rumbaut
Hi Xmess7 Is possible in your EA make combination of different time frames of CMSM indicator like the DASHBOARD EAX with PIN option ? My idea is to filter for example CMSM H4 + CMSM D1 but make exit with CMSM H4 . There with PIN we can filter ANY entry with ANY exit criteria. Asked Grandaevus about communicate via PIN using his AMAZING indicator but seem he is out now. Note: here is the post where asked about it https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...8#post11463118 Thanks in advance Jose {image}

Xmess7

Thanks anyway , keep getting green pips. Hope Grandaevus come back again and help communicate his ind via PIN with DASHBOARD EAX
  • #14,511
  • Sep 21, 2018 7:11am Sep 21, 2018 7:11am
Today's neg. basket trigger, 3.5(108)=378. SL290 pips, TP 327, ProfitLock 196 saving 75%, and stepping at 42. However, v37.7.7(1) does not have neg. basket trigger option. In live acct., I do not make neg. basket trades. Very risky...
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  • #14,512
  • Sep 21, 2018 10:38am Sep 21, 2018 10:38am
Hey guys,
can any kind soul please guide me to the right page to start reading?
I followed this thread since the very beginning but stopped FX entirely around April 2017.
I'm assuming many things have changed?
Much thanks..
  • #14,513
  • Sep 21, 2018 10:59am Sep 21, 2018 10:59am
Quoting Chroniclez
Hey guys, can any kind soul please guide me to the right page to start reading? I followed this thread since the very beginning but stopped FX entirely around April 2017. I'm assuming many things have changed? Much thanks..
Like all threads reading everything is always the best. It took me a long time but I did and find it very helpful.
However if you absolutely can't I suggest reading the first couple of pages and the last 100 pages.
In my opinion start after when the CMSM (Grandaevus) indicator was developed.
  • #14,514
  • Sep 21, 2018 12:53pm Sep 21, 2018 12:53pm
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Result for a week
  • #14,515
  • Sep 21, 2018 2:22pm Sep 21, 2018 2:22pm
EA update v41.9

xm7_Ccfp_Wkly_TradeMonitor_v41.9.ex4

Many bugs where fixed and new inputs were added. In particular the vb issue was closely tested.
As you can see we skipped several versions. This was cause this was tested until we got the one that worked LOL.

See image for new inputs and what they mean.

NOW, before moving on to the very FINAL VERSION (and VANILLA too), there is one MAJOR issue that needs to be discussed. That is the use of VB as a real basket. Right now VB is basically a TRIGGER FILTER and not much else. When the trigger is hit, the EA then gets the trade suggestions from the indicator, filters those trades and opens a real basket (No trade from VB list is used when opening the real basket). There are many many ways of thinking about this. Please also consider that if this MAJOR change is made that it could affect those that already have success with the way the VB is currently operated.

So here are the RAW questions:
When using the virtual basket feature do we change the EA so that now the VB is treated just like the real basket and trades are taken from the VB list? (Keep in mind that the NEW SUGGESTED TRADES could also be ignored since the EA would now only look to the VB to create the real basket)
OR just leave the EA as is? (IT AIN'T BROKEN AND IT WORKS TOO LOL).

YES lol I have thought of having a switch so that both options are available. But man... this would add code and more inputs ... (WE GOT TOO MANY INPUTS ALREADY LOL).

PS: I have not forgotten about the MT5 version.. I will update that as well this weekend
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  • #14,516
  • Sep 21, 2018 3:58pm Sep 21, 2018 3:58pm
Quoting xmess7
EA update v41.9 xm7_Ccfp_Wkly_TradeMonitor_v41.9.ex4 Many bugs where fixed and new inputs were added. In particular the vb issue was closely tested. As you can see we skipped several versions. This was cause this was tested until we got the one that worked LOL. See image for new inputs and what they mean. NOW, before moving on to the very FINAL VERSION (and VANILLA too), there is one MAJOR issue that needs to be discussed. That is the use of VB as a real basket....
Thank you very much for all additions. However, for VB I vote to have switch for both options. I think it is much better that VB is treated like RB, anything other doesn't make sense to me. But we can't know if we don't test this feature. Or you can create one special version with this feature so we can test. However thank you for great job on this EA.
  • #14,517
  • Sep 21, 2018 5:17pm Sep 21, 2018 5:17pm
Quoting xmess7
When using the virtual basket feature do we change the EA so that now the VB is treated just like the real basket and trades are taken from the VB list? {image} {file}
Jess, my vote is when the VB triggers a RB, it should be with the exact pairs contained in the VB. Why? The only reason is that this is how I have traded for over 1 year very successfully. I have not tested any other way. I am sure many others will disagree and would prefer for the pairs to update.

But if you do change, I can always continue using the older versions, so it will not affect me. I am currently using v41 and it is working perfectly for me.

Thanks for all the work you've done.
  • #14,518
  • Sep 21, 2018 6:14pm Sep 21, 2018 6:14pm
Quoting xmess7
EA update v41.9 xm7_Ccfp_Wkly_TradeMonitor_v41.9.ex4 Many bugs where fixed and new inputs were added. In particular the vb issue was closely tested. As you can see we skipped several versions. This was cause this was tested until we got the one that worked LOL. See image for new inputs and what they mean. NOW, before moving on to the very FINAL VERSION (and VANILLA too), there is one MAJOR issue that needs to be discussed. That is the use of VB as a real basket....
Jess, thank you for the new Version.
I can't await testing the funktion "sort pairs by strenght".
To the vb rule, I think it is worth changing the EA to update the vb with new suggestions as long as it is not triggered. Then the ea takes always the exact pairs from the virtual basket because they are up to date. A switch to select between the rules would be fine, but we cannot expect that you got a lot of work again. I think if we use a low trade level in the indicator and then trade let's say 6 pairs from 8 to 10 suggestions, there wouln't be a great change in the vb because there are already the pairs with the lower strenght included, which would eventually gain strenght and would become a suggestion at a higher trade level.
Thomas
  • #14,519
  • Sep 21, 2018 7:30pm Sep 21, 2018 7:30pm
Quoting yohec
{quote} Jess, my vote is when the VB triggers a RB, it should be with the exact pairs contained in the VB. Why? The only reason is that this is how I have traded for over 1 year very successfully. I have not tested any other way. I am sure many others will disagree and would prefer for the pairs to update. But if you do change, I can always continue using the older versions, so it will not affect me. I am currently using v41 and it is working perfectly for me. Thanks for all the work you've done.
yohec:
EXACTLY!! It Ain't Broken and it WORKS!. LOL.
In your case you have 1 YEAR OF REAL DATA showing that it is profitable.

BUT I am having conversations on this matter and some real good ideas are coming thru that can be added quickly to the current setup. For SURE this setup will remain. I too have benefited from the current setup. So check this out.

FOLKS THE FOLLOWING IS ME TESTING A VB SETUP.
The vb basket during the week, was opened at 0900, 1600, and 0400 on GMT. I have set the SL to -3%. The first 2 time setting it hit the -3% stop. But this last one (0400 on Wednesday GMT) has remained opened. Even though the TP is 100%, I have a trail stop of 4%. You will notice that the min=0%, that is due to me modifying code to fix bugs. If you see something like that in your display let me know.

Anyhow the max was 15% hit today (9/21) 0703GMT. I remember seeing this, it was over 600+ pips too.

This is just testing. In about 4 or more weeks I will start to get a feel for if this is profitable.

Enjoy:
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  • #14,520
  • Edited 9:22pm Sep 21, 2018 8:33pm | Edited 9:22pm
[quote=xmess7;11506376]. As you can see we have success with the way the VB is currently operated. So here are the RAW questions: When using the virtual basket feature do we change the EA so that now the VB is treated just like the real basket and trades are taken from the VB list? (Keep in mind that the NEW SUGGESTED TRADES could also be ignored since the EA would now only look to the VB to create the real basket) OR just leave the EA as is?

Thank you Jess for your great effort it's much appreciated.

Hello all,
If we want a clean pure VB as a trigger then VB should be treated just like the real basket. And in my opinion - if there are new pairs comming or some pairs disappear from the CMSM Trade Suggestions, then it should be in and out from the VB until TrigggerLevel is hit.

Yesterday I did many testing and sometimes there were 14 pairs in the VB but when triggerlevel was hit - only one pair did open because of the TrendFilter. And this pair had only 1 plus pip (far away from upper triggerlevel set to 20)

So it means that :

1. We risk to open currency pairs which total has not hit Upper Trigger level yet.

and also the opposite situation

2. We risk to open currency pairs which total has hit Upper Trigger level long time ago because negative pips pairs which will be sorted from the trend filter is included in the total as it is now. I think it sometimes could easily be 10-20 pips wrong and it means that the basket could had open 10-20 pips earlier. 10-20 pips sounds perhaps not much but if your MM is 0,04/500 and TP = 5% and nothing else then the TP will always be around 85 pips - then 10-20 pips is a lot.

If you are playing with SL/TP 200-500 pips then this is not relevant.


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