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  • #90,841
  • Sep 18, 2018 2:26am Sep 18, 2018 2:26am
Quoting eelfranz
If your willing to monitor a 4hr chart... you will see how when green crosses red it arcs or wiggles above or below red (see white boxes on the chart). You can stay the trade until it crosses red and pull down 200-400 pips on the longer runs... {image}
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This post is one of the exception to the basic rule using TDI flat,hook back, etc. for exit.

How do we filter these exception?

I would look at the PA and the Stochastics in OB and OS regions for strong trending pairs with volatility.
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #90,842
  • Edited 5:02am Sep 18, 2018 4:51am | Edited 5:02am
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} @jmn It is of no use to re-post BigE's post's. Certain member's has claimed the right to disregard BigE post's, trying to change this thread to their way of trading. Have stopped myself from doing what you did. New and old traders only need BigE full. pdf - study the theory, chart's. Find answers to questions with google search. Since I chucked out the garbage that this thread has spawned over the years the results is everyday like image below. The most important factor is the angle of green and to enter at the beginning of the new bar....
As you start to understand TMS fine tune it to suite you as the trader.
Remember that
- the green angle is the key to this method.
- enter at the beginning of a bar.
- stoch confirm direction
- bar size
- wick's length top and bottom
- level of cross over
- S/R level (trade away from level)
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  • #90,843
  • Sep 18, 2018 8:07am Sep 18, 2018 8:07am
Rinse and repeat
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  • #90,844
  • Sep 18, 2018 8:43am Sep 18, 2018 8:43am
Quoting Tekkies
the green angle is the key to this method
No. If this is the key you have to explain all the setups where even the best looking TDI green angle´s fails and what exactly gives you any significant advantage here on such good angle compared to a bad looking angle.

How many more charts i need to post where even the best looking green angle fails?. For every chart you post with a positive good looking green tdi angle i can post one where it does not. So where exactly is this key in it here? Please do not spread around such naive false statements here (you cannot even proof). I can´t even find that BigE ever said a TDI green angle would be king or key in his method. If so, i would still not agree with him.

Maybe you should think about stop teaching and giving advices. You determine things to be king or key like randomly, every new week i am reading here something different is key or king and if this won´t work out for a trade setup posted here you blame it on the "basics" like a SR level or what ever else might looked bad in your eyes to give such trades a negative reason why it should not have taken.

Otherwise please proof it finally yes? Please show me only 1 chart where a good TDI green angle no matter what time frame was giving you a 51% chance. Lets say over the period of 12 months? So if you cannot even do that, how can you say that this is "key" to anything?
  • #90,845
  • Sep 18, 2018 8:46am Sep 18, 2018 8:46am
Quoting Tekkies
Rinse and repeat {image}
You should concentrate posting more losing trades instead. Picking the winners of your demo trading here and posting such charts won´t help anyone not making a better trader.
  • #90,846
  • Sep 18, 2018 9:08am Sep 18, 2018 9:08am
Quoting lddd
{quote} No. If this is the key you have to explain all the setups where even the best looking TDI green angle´s fails and what exactly gives you any significant advantage here on such good angle compared to a bad looking angle. How many more charts i need to post where even the best looking green angle fails?. For every chart you post with a positive good looking green tdi angle i can post one where it does not. So where exactly is this key in it here? Please do not spread around such naive false statements here (you cannot even proof). I can´t...
Every chart that you posted had some BASIC flaws in it. Make sure you have covered all of the BASICs before you look at signals. Look at a chart from the top down, not the bottom up.

Quoting Tekkies
{quote} @jmn It is of no use to re-post BigE's post's. Certain member's has claimed the right to disregard BigE post's, trying to change this thread to their way of trading. Have stopped myself from doing what you did. New and old traders only need BigE full. pdf - study the theory, chart's. Find answers to questions with google search. Since I chucked out the garbage that this thread has spawned over the years the results is everyday like image below. The most important factor is the angle of green and to enter at the beginning of the new bar....
I think it is necessary to post some of Big E and his words because we have a serial poster here who has admitted his issues, he may well be institutionalized, and the thread needs to be kept at least somewhat clean every now and again.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #90,847
  • Sep 18, 2018 9:13am Sep 18, 2018 9:13am
Quoting lddd
Maybe you should think about stop teaching and giving advices.
lddd -- Gee, whiz -- give it a rest. I'm new to TMS, though an experienced trader and software developer. I've developed many EAs and enjoy trading forex -- it's one of my hobbies. I want to read about TMS, test it, and come to my own conclusions. I'm an adult and perfectly capable of determining whether something has value or not. Why do you force me to sift through whiny, complaining posts?
  • #90,848
  • Edited 10:08am Sep 18, 2018 9:21am | Edited 10:08am
Quoting lddd
{quote} No. If this is the key you have to explain all the setups where even the best looking TDI green angle´s fails and what exactly gives you any significant advantage here on such good angle compared to a bad looking angle. How many more charts i need to post where even the best looking green angle fails?. For every chart you post with a positive good looking green tdi angle i can post one where it does not. So where exactly is this key in it here? Please do not spread around such naive false statements here (you cannot even proof). I can´t...
How can there be a bad looking angle and best looking angle? An angle can only be angle. It is what you do after you see angle that is above / below 2.

How many times has Lisat / Catalin posted to check higher time frame. Did you take her advice and see if it works?
How many time have I posted to study what BigE has posted. Understand all aspect of post#647 with S/R levels.
BigE and myself has never posted that TDI green angle is King. You misquoteBigE clearly indicate you don't want to study any of BigE's post or backtest any of his or my chart.
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"Please show me only 1 chart where a good TDI green angle no matter what time frame was giving you a 51% chance."
How many chart's needed to be posted that show exactly that you have more then 51% change at success
How times have been posted both M15 and H1 where green angel is above / below required level

Iddd I can't trade for you nor can any member help you when you yourself is not prepared to learn on your own.

edit: demo trade? Take a look at image top left corner. Post 90,581
  • #90,849
  • Sep 18, 2018 9:23am Sep 18, 2018 9:23am
Quoting lddd
{quote} You should concentrate posting more losing trades instead. Picking the winners of your demo trading here and posting such charts won´t help anyone not making a better trader.
Demo trading is not a bad thing. In fact it is smart to start that way if you don't have a platform that allows you to customize your trade size.

What is stupid is to throw enough money to buy a car in USD away just to say you trade size. That is amazingly stupid.

No one can make you are better trader. You have to do that for yourself, just like any other acquired skill.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #90,850
  • Sep 18, 2018 9:43am Sep 18, 2018 9:43am
Quoting lddd
{quote} No. If this is the key you have to explain all the setups where even the best looking TDI green angle´s fails and what exactly gives you any significant advantage here on such good angle compared to a bad looking angle. How many more charts i need to post where even the best looking green angle fails?. For every chart you post with a positive good looking green tdi angle i can post one where it does not. So where exactly is this key in it here? Please do not spread around such naive false statements here (you cannot even proof). I can´t...
M15 green angle below 4. Will I place an order.

NO
Look where is S/R level.
Take note that long wick that pullback on H1
Look previous candle's on M15: small, big with no clear direction which way trend will go.
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  • #90,851
  • Sep 18, 2018 10:02am Sep 18, 2018 10:02am
TDI Angle... They key of nothing :/

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  • #90,852
  • Sep 18, 2018 10:05am Sep 18, 2018 10:05am
Quoting Tekkies
Take note that long wick that pullback on H1 Look previous candle's on M15: small, big with no clear direction which way trend will go. {image} {image}
Yes, so where is it key to this method?

You say it your self: Look previous candle´s on M15, look at this, look at this, look at this... oh and look at this (i remember "trading made simple").

Btw on the chart you posted here yet again TDI green/red not even crossed wether on M15 nor on H1. It looks it does not even touched, so why do you post this? Thats a no trade entry at all to me. "Do not enter if green/gred not crossed".
  • #90,853
  • Sep 18, 2018 10:37am Sep 18, 2018 10:37am
Quoting lddd
TDI Angle... They key of nothing :/ {image}
You still don't understand.
The TDI crossover SHOW ONLY A POSSIBLE TRADE can be placed.
The angle angle of green SHOW ONLY THE MOMENTUM of that cross and the propertablity of how successful that enter will be.
Understand post#647 with S/R

From right to left.
1. Stoch did not confirm direction
2. Weak angle? It is above 2, stoch confirm direction, moving away from level 32, small blue doji. candle's are going small to big. Above 5EMA
3. Enter at beginning of that first blue candle with BE would bank you some pips. You can stay in the trend for 8 hours as long a price is close to 5EMA

Iddd when a person want to find a fault, they will find a fault.
Not going to help you anymore, maybe some other member is willing you.
  • #90,854
  • Sep 18, 2018 10:42am Sep 18, 2018 10:42am
Quoting lddd
{quote} Yes, so where is it key to this method? You say it your self: Look previous candle´s on M15, look at this, look at this, look at this... oh and look at this (i remember "trading made simple"). Btw on the chart you posted here yet again TDI green/red not even crossed wether on M15 nor on H1. It looks it does not even touched, so why do you post this? Thats a no trade entry at all to me. "Do not enter if green/gred not crossed".
Not going to help you anymore, maybe some other member is willing you.
  • #90,855
  • Sep 18, 2018 1:10pm Sep 18, 2018 1:10pm
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} Not going to help you anymore, maybe some other member is willing you.
At this stage I think he is just trolling. He will not actually engage in a line of conversation that can be constructive.

Quoting Tekkies
{quote} You still don't understand. The TDI crossover SHOW ONLY A POSSIBLE TRADE can be placed. The angle angle of green SHOW ONLY THE MOMENTUM of that cross and the propertablity of how successful that enter will be. Understand post#647 with S/R From right to left. 1. Stoch did not confirm direction 2. Weak angle? It is above 2, stoch confirm direction, moving away from level 32, small blue doji. candle's are going small to big. Above 5EMA 3. Enter at beginning of that first blue candle with BE would bank you some pips. You can stay in the trend...
And even if he was skittish about the angle, there was a bounce trade that he missed that would have taken him in.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #90,856
  • Sep 18, 2018 3:58pm Sep 18, 2018 3:58pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Demo trading is not a bad thing. In fact it is smart to start that way if you don't have a platform that allows you to customize your trade size. What is stupid is to throw enough money to buy a car in USD away just to say you trade size. That is amazingly stupid. No one can make you are better trader. You have to do that for yourself, just like any other acquired skill.
Hi Jmn

I agree that Demo trading is great but you first need to established the correct settings for your strategy. Lazy traders don't want to put the hard yards in but all you need is a spread sheet and a quiet weekend. Simply start from January 2nd using a TDI that doesn't repaint and plot every possible setup for this year you see on ALL time frames you would like to trade. Come Monday morning you will know whether this system is worth the trouble. Trade size is irrelevant if you can't nail down a good profitability over a 12 month period. Putting it another way, we need to know the profit factor and draw back figures before we can now establish the correct position size.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #90,857
  • Sep 18, 2018 4:50pm Sep 18, 2018 4:50pm
Quoting RickM
{quote} Hi Jmn I agree that Demo trading is great but you first need to established the correct settings for your strategy. Lazy traders don't want to put the hard yards in but all you need is a spread sheet and a quiet weekend. Simply start from January 2nd using a TDI that doesn't repaint and plot every possible setup for this year you see on ALL time frames you would like to trade. Come Monday morning you will know whether this system is worth the trouble. Trade size is irrelevant if you can't nail down a good profitability over a 12 month period....
What do you think of a profit factor of 3.7 with a win rate between 60% and 65% and maximal drawdown of 5%?
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #90,858
  • Sep 18, 2018 5:14pm Sep 18, 2018 5:14pm
Quoting lddd
{quote} Yes, so where is it key to this method? You say it your self: Look previous candle´s on M15, look at this, look at this, look at this... oh and look at this (i remember "trading made simple"). Btw on the chart you posted here yet again TDI green/red not even crossed wether on M15 nor on H1. It looks it does not even touched, so why do you post this? Thats a no trade entry at all to me. "Do not enter if green/gred not crossed".

@lddd,

Very good question many have asked before in the last 7 years. You are not alone. Many are in the same situation but are shy to post and ask questions. They suffer in silence and will pay the higher price in trading this brutal retail spot forex market. We can make some money but do not expect making wheel barrows of pips/money. This is not a get rich quick type of business. It takes years to acquire the knowledge and experience to be able to trade consistently and that is really one of the keys to making money in the markets.

Big E's Post#1:
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Quoting eelfranz
Is that possible? Yes. ....The key to this method is the Traders Dynamic Index indicator for entries and exits. I also use a Stochastics (8,3,3) indicator. It is ONLY used to confirm direction. Nothing else. We only use Heiken Ashi candles... that's important. We want you to be an active member asking questions, posting charts and making observations when possible. ...
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Beside the TDI as the key, Big E used the Stochastics for direction only.

And what is important in addition to the key, is to use the Heiken Ashi candles.
If anyone who who posts charts and does not use the Heiken Ashi candles , then he is not trading TMS 5-Method.

The best decision is to pick someone who has achieved and maintained a consistent win rate of 60% and 65% for at least 3 years (36 months period continuous period) and learn from his/her experience.


Big E post#495:

Quoting eelfranz
Guys.... My point is lets keep the thread clean...... Starting out you should be 60-65% successful. Within 1 to two months you should be 70-80% successful.. IF... you follow the simple rules and simple exits... 3-6 months... 85% successful. Don't complicate it... keep it simple. ....
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Do Not give up yet. Have a plan what you want to achieve in trading the markets.Set SMART goals in your business plan.
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #90,859
  • Sep 18, 2018 5:33pm Sep 18, 2018 5:33pm
Quoting robots4me
{quote} lddd -- Gee, whiz -- give it a rest. I'm new to TMS, though an experienced trader and software developer. I've developed many EAs and enjoy trading forex -- it's one of my hobbies. I want to read about TMS, test it, and come to my own conclusions. I'm an adult and perfectly capable of determining whether something has value or not. Why do you force me to sift through whiny, complaining posts?
Hi robots4me,

I have similar hobbies too ... coding trade manager expert advisors perform my trading task for me and trading the stock and forex markets, plus one more hobby which is to study people behaviour and their psychology in trading online forums. I can tell those who can trade and those who talk only.

regards,
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #90,860
  • Sep 18, 2018 5:48pm Sep 18, 2018 5:48pm
Quoting lddd
{quote} No. If this is the key you have to explain all the setups where even the best looking TDI green angle´s fails and what exactly gives you any significant advantage here on such good angle compared to a bad looking angle. How many more charts i need to post where even the best looking green angle fails?. For every chart you post with a positive good looking green tdi angle i can post one where it does not. So where exactly is this key in it here? Please do not spread around such naive false statements here (you cannot even proof). I can´t...
@lddd,

Learn Dr Alexander Elder's Triple Screen Trading System approach. That is a proven and tested approach used by many traders - both professinals and amater hobby traders.

No matter what the TDI Green line angle or slope shows, I avoid trading against the Intermediate(Daily) and Dominant(Weekly) trends. Big E refers these to as hort and long term trends.

Big E Post#647
Quoting eelfranz
... How close am I to the previous high or lo Am I in an uptrend or downtrend.. short & long term... Am I in or close to a consolidation area ....

My favourite pic below:
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Example of TMS Monitor H4, the TDI Slope(angle) above the default threshold value=4, but the PA shows CONSOLIDATION and also the Weeklys and Daily trends are both UP.

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Stay away from trading H1, M30, M15 until you have mastered trading the 5-Method on H4 and D1.
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
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