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  • #14,401
  • Sep 17, 2018 5:39am Sep 17, 2018 5:39am
Monday basket hit +5%

Lotsize: 0.04/500 tp: 5% sl: 7%
Indicator: CMSM v14.01 with Level=2
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  • #14,402
  • Sep 17, 2018 6:04am Sep 17, 2018 6:04am
Here it is.

Eventually I manually opened the basket..

Thank you for always being so helpful!
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  • #14,403
  • Sep 17, 2018 6:44am Sep 17, 2018 6:44am
Hello guys it's kinda that I follow you a suggestion to try it in real, since pepperstone is adequate and you have rules esma, so all currency pairs have final .r.
How can I modify the robot? thank you
  • #14,404
  • Sep 17, 2018 7:12am Sep 17, 2018 7:12am
Monday +5.5% target done and dusted, Wednesday here we come!
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  • #14,405
  • Sep 17, 2018 7:15am Sep 17, 2018 7:15am
Quoting WestVillage
Here it is. Eventually I manually opened the basket.. Thank you for always being so helpful! {image} {image}
Hi West,

You have set pip profit to +- 20 this could perhaps be the reason. If you just want a basket upper trigger level 20 pips then i think you should delete PIP Profit 20 and set to 0.
But ask Jess to confirm.
Regards
Jan
  • #14,406
  • Sep 17, 2018 7:15am Sep 17, 2018 7:15am
Quoting xmess7
Monday basket hit +5% Lotsize: 0.04/500 tp: 5% sl: 7% Indicator: CMSM v14.01 with Level=2 {image}
Mine might have, but was closed by the EA. Note, neither Sl, or TP was hit. Note also, the absence of stat for pip gain.
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  • #14,407
  • Sep 17, 2018 8:11am Sep 17, 2018 8:11am
nobody who can help me?
  • #14,408
  • Sep 17, 2018 8:56am Sep 17, 2018 8:56am
Hello,
after my salutary experience last week, my Monday Basket closed in Profit. But I must say that I reopened the VB at about 12:07 gmt because there were only 2 suggestions in the VB at 9:00 gmt. I lowered the trade level of the indicator to get 6 suggestions.
The Profit lock feature did it's job very well. On my demo I changed the atr stoploss values to 0.3 atr - period 5 days, because last week showed me
that the calculated SL and TP values seemed a bit too high.
It also worked out and hit TP.
@Jess : I have one Question: Is there a specific order the trades are taken from or into the virtual basket? If I set the trade level from
the indicator very low, i will get more suggestions. When I then set the maximal allowed pairs to 6, would the ea open the 6 pairs which are on top
of the indicator list, or are the 6 pairs taken randomly? I think it would not be bad if the ea would take the pairs in a order from top to bottom of the
indicator list. This way we could set the trade level low and we would allways get the same number of trades every time.
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  • #14,409
  • Sep 17, 2018 9:24am Sep 17, 2018 9:24am
Quoting Pippopotamus
{quote} Mine might have, but was closed by the EA. Note, neither Sl, or TP was hit. Note also, the absence of stat for pip gain. {image}
Pippo:
Just to make, you didnt reload the EA, right?.
Plus pls post the expert log... just to see what the eamight of posted..
Tnx
J
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  • #14,410
  • Sep 17, 2018 9:28am Sep 17, 2018 9:28am
Quoting xmess7
{quote} Pippo: Just to make, you didnt reload the EA, right?. Plus pls post the expert log... just to see what the eamight of posted.. Tnx J
I adjusted the ProfitLock setting after RB was opened. Could that have caused the problem?
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  • #14,411
  • Sep 17, 2018 9:37am Sep 17, 2018 9:37am
Quoting anime971
Hello guys it's kinda that I follow you a suggestion to try it in real, since pepperstone is adequate and you have rules esma, so all currency pairs have final .r. How can I modify the robot? thank you
Don't quite understand what you're saying but if you're talking about suffix or prefix, look under the CMSM indicator input section.
  • #14,412
  • Sep 17, 2018 9:40am Sep 17, 2018 9:40am
Quoting Degolep
This is the indicator for that report you are looking for. {file}
Thank you, dear, Degolep
  • #14,413
  • Sep 17, 2018 9:46am Sep 17, 2018 9:46am
Quoting thomas1386
Hello, after my salutary experience last week, my Monday Basket closed in Profit. But I must say that I reopened the VB at about 12:07 gmt because there were only 2 suggestions in the VB at 9:00 gmt. I lowered the trade level of the indicator to get 6 suggestions. The Profit lock feature did it's job very well. On my demo I changed the atr stoploss values to 0.3 atr - period 5 days, because last week showed me that the calculated SL and TP values seemed a bit too high. It also worked out and hit TP. @Jess : I have one Question: Is there a specific...
thomas1386:
Yep the order thing is in the works. But as u can imagine.. Originally there was no instruction on what the order of pairs was to be. The originator (forexpinbar) just told us to get the pairs and open then as trades. In addition at the time the ccfp-diff indicator didn't specify order of strength as does cmsm.

So when cmsm came along no change was provoked for the order of taking trades.

The EA takes rhe trades according to the way the pairs are listed by the indicator. Do a ctrl-B and a object list will pop up. Scroll down to the objects that have in their name "_CMSM_Label_Suggestions_". Starting from the botton of that list and going up, that is the order of the list that the EA captures. Yoi can verify this by setting PrintDebugInfo =true on EA and comparing the list u see in the expert log to the object list. Again the first being the bottom of the last pair (this has to do with the way the EA captures the pairs).

I will add the code to the getPairs() function that will sort the pairs in order of strength.

J
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  • #14,414
  • Sep 17, 2018 9:50am Sep 17, 2018 9:50am
Quoting Pippopotamus
{quote} I adjusted the ProfitLock setting after RB was opened. Could that have caused the problem?
That migjt be somethinf i did not test... usually in my testing once the vb opens i dont touch anything. At the least it explains why i dont see the vb basket pairs. .

i'll test it my self and Get that fixed.

J
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  • #14,415
  • Sep 17, 2018 10:05am Sep 17, 2018 10:05am
Quoting WestVillage
Here it is. Eventually I manually opened the basket.. Thank you for always being so helpful! {image} {image}
Janus64 found a logic bug. . Looks like by u setting the +/-Pips level to opwn trades.... input that caused two things to affect your Baslket.

1. the EA only grabbed an initial list of trades when u ran the EA and used the profit from those to filter the real basket list. It woild only allow a trade to open if its prpfit was greater that 20, pips (as u specified). At the same time the ea monitors the whole vb baaket profit. So even when the vb baaket hit your trigger.. the ea would also go thru the above filter and ... not allow any trades cause more then likely no single trade profit was greater than 20pips.

What were u trying to accomplish?? Either u have the EA monitor the whole vb basket profit or monitor the individual vb pairs profit...

Anyhow.....So there u have it a code operation bug. This will be fixed... in the mean time set that +/-Pips input to 0 so that bug does not happen.

Jess
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  • #14,416
  • Edited 11:06am Sep 17, 2018 10:38am | Edited 11:06am
Quoting xmess7
{quote} Janus64 found a logic bug. . Looks like by u setting the +/-Pips level to opwn trades.... input that caused two things to affect your Baslket. 1. the EA only grabbed an initial list of trades when u ran the EA and used the profit from those to filter the real basket list. It woild only allow a trade to open if its prpfit was greater that 20, pips (as u specified). At the same time the ea monitors the whole vb baaket profit. So even when the vb baaket hit your trigger.. the ea would also go thru the above filter and ... not allow any...
Check Candle Color Trend=true. Must keep that in mind.
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  • #14,417
  • Sep 17, 2018 11:55am Sep 17, 2018 11:55am
Quoting xmess7
{quote} majamivice: This is one operation of several i am looking into. You see the development of the EA was brought upon by requests. On many rew requests users did not think things thru. I tried to make sense of these things and placed them as i saw fit so it woild not affect the core operation of the EA. The vb idea was brought on way before the filters where considered. So beforecwe deal with your question lets analyze the vb operation. The process is basically that a vb is opened and when it hits a trigger a real basket is opened....
Hi Jess,
Thank you for the great EA! Your contribution is very much appreciated!

Here's my input regarding the VB matter:
I believe the VB should act just like the ‘real’ basket and constantly add newly suggested trades into the basket until the trigger is hit.

Here’s an example scenario why I believe so:
Let’s hypothetically say our trades were going to go positive and give us a winning day.
At the time of opening, there was only one suggested pair so the VB opened with that one pair. 10 minutes later 4 more suggestions showed up but the VB did not take them. (Current EA logic)
So we now have to wait for this one pair to climb to hit the upper trigger of 20 pips by itself to open up the RB. Let’s say this ‘climb’ took an hour (example only). But while this pair was climbing the other 4 suggested pairs had 50 minutes to climb as well. By the time the one pair hit the upper trigger the other 4 pairs should have potentially/theoretically a combined pips of around 70 pips already (which could be near TP).
With my suggesting VB logic we would be up 70 pips by the time this current logic RB opened (with 0 pips). Here, not only did we potentially lose 70 pips but we also have to worry about a bigger retracement should it happen. Also losing 70 pips means a lower probability of hitting our TP (ADR theory).

More testing needs to be done, but we are using the strength indicator which means that trade suggestions should generally be in align and suggestions shouldn’t change too often especially on higher TFs. (This brings me to another suggestion which I’ll save for next time)
Hope this makes sense to you.

Luckily I was able to catch this exact scenario happening today. Check SS below.
They are both the same setting but the right EA's basket was opened manually.


I do understand how it can possibly affect the current good results you guys have been having, which I do not wish to alter whatsoever. So if it doesn’t trouble you too much, I would like to suggest an option to choose between the two.

===VIRTUAL BASKET SETTINGS===
Update Trade Suggestions: True/False
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  • #14,418
  • Sep 17, 2018 12:11pm Sep 17, 2018 12:11pm
Quoting Pippopotamus
{quote} Check Candle Color Trend=true. Must keep that in mind.
That could also be a factor for no trades. It hasnt happen yet but that coupled with the indicator showing a low number of pairs could cause it to create a null list.

What i am thinking is that when u reloaded (a change of input will cause that ) that on the init() part that the EA refreshed everything and the profit got affected.

I myself am testing vb operation. Mine will open at 1600 gmt. so i am going to do what u did.. go to inputs make changes before 1600.. and then see what or what doesnt happen..
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  • #14,419
  • Sep 17, 2018 12:22pm Sep 17, 2018 12:22pm
Quoting xmess7
{quote} That could also be a factor for no trades. It hasnt happen yet but that coupled with the indicator showing a low number of pairs could cause it to create a null list. What i am thinking is that when u reloaded (a change of input will cause that ) that on the init() part that the EA refreshed everything and the profit got affected. I myself am testing vb operation. Mine will open at 1600 gmt. so i am going to do what u did.. go to inputs make changes before 1600.. and then see what or what doesnt happen..
Thanks Jess... Good Ole' v37.7.7(1) is not that touchy. Can adjust with no issues...
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  • #14,420
  • Sep 17, 2018 3:04pm Sep 17, 2018 3:04pm
Quoting mugenpips
Here's my input regarding the VB matter:
I believe the VB should act just like the ‘real’ basket and constantly add newly suggested trades into the basket until the trigger is hit.
It's what Janus64 recommended too. I am leaning more toward making this happen...

Quoting mugenpips
At the time of opening, there was only one suggested pair so the VB opened with that one pair. 10 minutes later 4 more suggestions showed up but the VB did not take them. (Current EA logic)
This is sort of correct, it really depends on what inputs you have set. Here's a run down of what I mean:

1. EA will open vb on defined openGMThour. The suggested trades on the indicator at that moment are "opened" virtually on to the vb basket

2. After this the EA monitors the vb total basket profit and does not look at the indicator suggested trades until:

a. the vb total basket profit has crossed the specified trigger(s).
-Once this condition happens the EA will scan indicator suggested trades and
apply the filters (Allow New trades, 3 candle, etc) and open a real basket with trades that passed the filters

b. Or for whatever reason the EA is reloaded (connection loss, change of inputs, etc) and there are no real trades opened -If this happens any previously open virtual basket will reset.

c. If "If new Trades appear on list add to basket" is set to true. The EA will continously examine the trade suggestion list, apply any filters,
and "add" or open any pairs that pass the filters.


The next SETTING changes the way the EA monitors the vb list and how many times the EA consults the trade suggestion list:

4. If the "Pip Profit (+/-pips) to allow virtualTrade Pair to open in realBasket" input is set true. The following happens:
- The EA will open vb on defined openGMThour. The suggested trades on the indicator at that moment are "opened" virtually on to the vb basket
- The EA will monitor the INDIVIDUAL profit of the each vb trade (not the total profit of the basket).
- As the vb trade's profit crosses the defined pip level, the EA opens the trade on to the real basket.
- The EA stops doing this after a define user time length("Hours:Minutes rBasket is processed after vBasket triggered its open")

This was a recommendation from THOR(think that was hit nick). He wanted to have the EA to grab the pairs at first shot onto the vb, then monitor just vb list and have it open for vb pairs on to the real basket as they crossed the defined pip levels.
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Quoting mugenpips
So we now have to wait for this one pair to climb to hit the upper trigger of 20 pips by itself to open up the RB. Let’s say this ‘climb’ took an hour (example only). But while this pair was climbing the other 4 suggested pairs had 50 minutes to climb as well. By the time the one pair hit the upper trigger the other 4 pairs should have potentially/theoretically a combined pips of around 70 pips already (which could be near TP).
With my suggesting VB logic we would be up 70 pips by the time this current logic RB opened (with 0 pips). Here, not only...
You could also consider that if the basket goes the negative way that in its current setup it would give less DD and allow you to close with less loss..

Quoting mugenpips
More testing needs to be done, but we are using the strength indicator which means that trade suggestions should generally be in align and suggestions shouldn’t change too often especially on higher TFs. (This brings me to another suggestion which I’ll save for next time)
Hope this makes sense to you.
Are you refering to having the EA open the trades in order of strongest pair? Already on that and in fact, just finished the code for it. So expect it in the next version.. LOL.

Quoting mugenpips
I do understand how it can possibly affect the current good results you guys have been having, which I do not wish to alter whatsoever. So if it doesn’t trouble you too much, I would like to suggest an option to choose between the two.
YES forward testing (on live account would be better) is required.

Quoting mugenpips
===VIRTUAL BASKET SETTINGS===
Update Trade Suggestions: True/False
Yep, I will consider this input....
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