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  • #90,581
  • Sep 7, 2018 4:08am Sep 7, 2018 4:08am
Yesterday's trades
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  • #90,582
  • Edited 4:23am Sep 7, 2018 4:09am | Edited 4:23am
Now did those chartes posted made any of you a better trader?
  • #90,583
  • Sep 7, 2018 4:20am Sep 7, 2018 4:20am
M15 is moving up.
H1 green angle is below 5
Stoch M1 is in overbought
Resistance is starting to become Support on M15
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Should I close or let price hit SL?
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  • #90,584
  • Sep 7, 2018 4:40am Sep 7, 2018 4:40am
That is now a bounce trade. (thick blue line)
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  • #90,585
  • Sep 7, 2018 4:45am Sep 7, 2018 4:45am
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} {quote} Not mean this in a bad way Iddd, Jumper. Are you guys so insecure in your own capabilities as a trader? Why not take the chart posted at face value. (Argument sake: Ok it is a fake, got edited with photoshop. So what.) The rules of this method is well known. Take the rules and apply it to the chart posted. Jumper you know TMS inside out. You, Catalin, Lisat, Emm and a few others will be the very first ones to spot any discrepancies. Ask questions related to what you have found wrong. Anyway here is a fake photoshop of two live trade's....
The single and only question is this: As a TE can be restricted to not show sensitive data, why do you (and others who make claims) steadfastly refuse to show one??
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #90,586
  • Sep 7, 2018 4:46am Sep 7, 2018 4:46am
Quoting PayItForward
Seriously people if you don't like/believe what is posted here why waste your time here ... it is obvious the neither T or E wishes to post a TE and that is their right ... it is not a competition with rules where they are required to do anything. Don't like it then leave ... go somewhere else or here is a thought ... maybe start your own thread and provide the "holy grail" if there is such a thing ... and show everyone how you have made your first $$$$ ... but I doubt it ... why ... cause it is easier to criticise than to perform ... that a fact...

I don't consider the short amount of time I spend at FF to be a waste. If I can help show a newbie that 'all may not be as it may seems', then it's worth the effort.

Sure, if T and E do not wish to authenticate their claims by showing a TE, that it is indeed their right. It is my right to call them on it too. I don't believe in Santa Clause and the tooth fairy either, but I'm open to being proved wrong if someone can verify their existance!

If I know of a shop where they're selling snake oil, I have a right to stand outside that shop with a placard saying "Beware, snake oil on sale at this shop. You have been warned!"
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #90,587
  • Edited 5:06am Sep 7, 2018 4:52am | Edited 5:06am
Quoting Tekkies
Now did those chartes posted made any of you a better trader?
No, but the idea that you were going to present your own probably made you one.

And that question you keep asking about making others a 'better trader' is overused. Results give others encouragement (whether you faked them or not) - end of.

Try measuring encouragement?
'in less than half an hour he made over 100 ticks'
  • #90,588
  • Sep 7, 2018 5:10am Sep 7, 2018 5:10am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} I don't consider the short amount of time I spend at FF to be a waste. If I can help show a newbie that 'all may not be as it may seems', then it's worth the effort. Sure, if T and E do not wish to authenticate their claims by showing a TE, that it is indeed their right. It is my right to call them on it too. I don't believe in Santa Clause and the tooth fairy either, but I'm open to being proved wrong if someone can verify their existance! If I know of a shop where they're selling snake oil, I have a right to stand outside that shop with...
Fair comment ... if you are so astute and such a good trader and have the ability to find fault in others then equally you have the ability to show people the right path however I don't see any thread from your profile where you have provided the same ... please correct me if I have missed your "thread to success"?
So my question to you is:
1) Have you actually employed the rules of eelfranz?
2) If so, what happened when you did ... clearly as you as so against it so I can only ascertain you failed? ... and if that is the case why not ask for help from those here that have had success using the same rules ... or is that an ego thing? If it is then no-one can help!
3) What are the rules you employ with success ... please detail, not here but in your new thread, and of course those rules must be backed by a TE (as that is your requirement of proof of success)
I am eager to improve my trading like I guess most people so please show me the path of your success.
If you cannot provide proof of either the failure of eelfranz rules or of your own method's success then it is reasonable to ascertain that you really have nothing of value to offer and I wont waste anymore of my time trying to extract any value.
Fair comment I think ...
Thanks
When you are successful perhaps give a thought to others ... Kiva dot org
  • #90,589
  • Edited 5:29am Sep 7, 2018 5:19am | Edited 5:29am
Quoting onejester
{quote} No, but the idea that you were going to present your own probably made you one. And that question you keep asking about making others a 'better trader' is overused. Results gives others encouragement (whether you faked them or not) - end of. Try measuring encouragement?
No Jester.
Encouragement is the last thing I would do to any trader. To encourage a member to keep on trying will cause more harm than good. This method or any other method are meant for a certain type of trader. I can not trade like Div / Cable with 123pattern or David with Pivot or Emm and Rick with those funny stuff they use. Did any of those member's encouraged me to learn their method's I would have still been struggling to understand Forex. My self confidence would have taken a seriously blow. Would have become depressed, demoralized, angry, extra extra.

It would be the same as to encourage a long distance runner to sprint the 100 meter in 9.9 seconds and sprinter to run a 42.2 marathon in 2h 10 min. Sure both can run, one is built to sprint and one is build to jog at a constant speed.

Each trader has to find his own way of trading the market. How many members have tried this method and failed. That very same member would become excellent in 123pattern or Pivot or a other method.

Those chart's posted only show that it is possible to make a profit with TMS. Next week TMS with the aid of Madam Price will show that reality is a margin call.

No two trader's see the market the same way. No two trader use the same method the same way.

Always will come down to: Will it make you a better trader to see the results of another man's trades.
  • #90,590
  • Sep 7, 2018 5:21am Sep 7, 2018 5:21am
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} Fair comment ... if you are so astute and such a good trader and have the ability to find fault in others then equally you have the ability to show people the right path however I don't see any thread from your profile where you have provided the same ... please correct me if I have missed your "thread to success"? So my question to you is: 1) Have you actually employed the rules of eelfranz? 2) If so, what happened when you did ... clearly as you as so against it so I can only ascertain...

There is no onus upon me to do or produce anything, I am not making any claims whatsover.

I am simple asking that those who DO make claims, verify them. If they choose not to. I am asking 'why not?

All done without sarcasm I might add.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #90,591
  • Sep 7, 2018 5:41am Sep 7, 2018 5:41am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} There is no onus upon me to do or produce anything, I am not making any claims whatsover. I am simple asking that those who DO make claims, verify them. If they choose not to. I am asking 'why not? All done without sarcasm I might add.
As I have said before there is no onus on anyone to provide proof of their claims however it is easy to throw stones but not so easy to throw credible stones.
Therefore my repeated question to you is, which I do note you ignored just as others have ignored your request of proof with a TE
1) Have you actually employed the rules of eelfranz?
2) If so, what happened when you did ... clearly as you as so against it, so I can only ascertain you failed? ... and if that is the case why not ask for help from those here that have had success using the same rules ... or is that an ego thing? If it is then no-one can help!
3) What are the rules you employ with success ... please detail, not here but in your new thread, and of course those rules must be backed by a TE (as that is your requirement of proof of success)
I am eager to improve my trading like I guess most people so please show me the path of your success.
If you cannot provide proof of either the failure of eelfranz rules or of your own method's success then it is reasonable to ascertain that you really have nothing of value to offer and I wont waste anymore of my time trying to extract any value.
Fair comment I think ...
And if you choose not to back your creds then that says just as much about you as you are implying about others ... in my opinion.
Thanks again for the facts
When you are successful perhaps give a thought to others ... Kiva dot org
  • #90,592
  • Sep 7, 2018 5:43am Sep 7, 2018 5:43am
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} No Jester. Encouragement is the last thing I would do to any trader. To encourage a member to keep on trying will cause more harm than good. This method or any other method are meant for a certain type of trader. I can not trade like Div / Cable with 123pattern or David with Pivot or Emm and Rick with those funny stuff they use. Did any of those member's encouraged me to learn their method's I would have still been struggling to understand Forex. My self confidence would have taken a seriously blow. Would have become depressed, demoralized,...
You are telling me that you aren't completely confident with your consistency at the moment. If that is the case, in an unmoderated thread I can kind of see why you would be reluctant want to post trades.

Having said that, I'll never get you compromise your views mate. Neither will CG or Divergence (I firmly believe their intentions are good though). But no worries, we are all different.

When it is money, serious people will want to see someone achieving results. You can clearly trade, so I don't see a good reason to not post your trades?

Others who have tried and failed with these systems popping up everywhere want to see it can be done. If they don't, they deserve everything they get. And in that vein, this is just another one of those threads.

- A talking shop.
'in less than half an hour he made over 100 ticks'
  • #90,593
  • Sep 7, 2018 6:01am Sep 7, 2018 6:01am
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} As I have said before there is no onus on anyone to provide proof of their claims however it is easy to throw stones but not so easy to throw credible stones. Therefore my repeated question to you is, which I do note you ignored just as others have ignored your request of proof with a TE 1) Have you actually employed the rules of eelfranz? 2) If so, what happened when you did ... clearly as you as so against it, so I can only ascertain you failed? ... and if that is the case why not ask...

I'm not throwing stones, I asking a simple question. Why, those who make claims and 'teach', refuse to employ a TE?

Why is this question so hard for those people to answer?

I have made no claims of my own regarding Erics system and I have made no claims about my own system, therefore I have nothing to answer for.

Pretty simple concept really.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #90,594
  • Sep 7, 2018 6:09am Sep 7, 2018 6:09am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} I'm not throwing stones, I asking a simple question. Why, those who make claims and 'teach', refuse to employ a TE? Why is this question so hard for those people to answer? I have made no claims of my own regarding Erics system and I have made no claims about my own system, therefore I have nothing to answer for. Pretty simple concept really.
I believe that if every trader was to post their TE, 99.9% of them would be break even or losing traders. The traders that are successful and making money keep a low profile and do not want to share what they have discovered.
Years ago a very wealth friend told me that those without money talk about money and those with money don't.
You will never find the dream on a forum.
Your trade order needs to be in the right place at the right time.
  • #90,595
  • Sep 7, 2018 6:11am Sep 7, 2018 6:11am
Quoting onejester
{quote} You are telling me that you aren't completely confident with your consistency at the moment. If that is the case, in an unmoderated thread I can kind of see why you would be reluctant want to post trades. Having said that, I'll never get you compromise your views mate. Neither will CG or Divergence (I firmly believe their intentions are good though). But no worries, we are all different. When it is money, serious people will want to see someone achieving results. You can clearly trade, so I don't see a good reason to not post your trades?...

More like a Comedy Thread.
Member's are required to proof every single chart with a detailed autobiografie verified by TE. Even then the chart posted will be classified as a fake.
Because:
I can not make a profit with this method so there for you are not allowed to make either such claims or dare to post such chart's.
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Not happy, leave.
Want to learn this method?
Download BigE full.pdf. Learn in your own way and own time. Find the answers to your own questions with Google search.
(Took 3 years, chart's posted show the results)
  • #90,596
  • Sep 7, 2018 6:12am Sep 7, 2018 6:12am
EUR/JPY Sell.

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  • #90,597
  • Sep 7, 2018 6:13am Sep 7, 2018 6:13am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} I'm not throwing stones, I asking a simple question. Why, those who make claims and 'teach', refuse to employ a TE? Why is this question so hard for those people to answer? I have made no claims of my own regarding Erics system and I have made no claims about my own system, therefore I have nothing to answer for. Pretty simple concept really.
Maybe you are right ... and yes it is pretty simple really when you really think about it ... it is a business and they simply don't want to display a TE publicly because it is live and their income is between them and the tax man ... no-one else ... and I, like you would have total respect for their privacy of income ... you encouraged me to realise the reason ...
Thank-you ...
Cheers and all the best ... good conversation
When you are successful perhaps give a thought to others ... Kiva dot org
  • #90,598
  • Sep 7, 2018 6:14am Sep 7, 2018 6:14am
Quoting Islandfx911
{quote} I believe that if every trader was to post their TE, 99.9% of them would be break even or losing traders. The traders that are successful and making money keep a low profile and do not want to share what they have discovered. Years ago a very wealth friend told me that those without money talk about money and those with money don't. You will never find the dream on a forum.

I agree 100%!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #90,599
  • Sep 7, 2018 6:20am Sep 7, 2018 6:20am
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} Maybe you are right ... and yes it is pretty simple really when you really think about it ... it is a business and they simply don't want to display a TE publicly because it is live and their income is between them and the tax man ... no-one else ... and I, like you would have total respect for their privacy of income ... you encouraged me to realise the reason ... Thank-you ... Cheers and all the best ... good conversation

That's the point, as I have said quite a few times now. There is no need to show any sensitive data on the TE, it has options of what to show. There is no need to show anything more that what they claim on their charts, but what the TE offers is a complete picture of wins, losses and much more, but no sensitive data if the TE owner wishes that to be so.

Still waiting for a simple answer to my question, but Emmanuel (for one) has kept me waiting for about 3 years now, so I don't expect a simple answer to a simple question from these 'teachers'.....and we can guess why they refuse to answer.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #90,600
  • Sep 7, 2018 6:21am Sep 7, 2018 6:21am
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} More like a Comedy Thread. Member's are required to proof every single chart with a detailed autobiografie verified by TE. Even then the chart posted will be classified as a fake. Because: I can not make a profit with this method so there for you are not allowed to make either such claims or dare to post such chart's. ------- Not happy, leave. Want to learn this method? Download BigE full.pdf. Learn in your own way and own time. Find the answers to your own questions with Google search....
Would you like a shovel to dig?
'in less than half an hour he made over 100 ticks'
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