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  • #5,821
  • Aug 17, 2018 7:51am Aug 17, 2018 7:51am
Stay safe, have a great weekend, and


LOVE


to all!


FF
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  • #5,822
  • Aug 17, 2018 7:53am Aug 17, 2018 7:53am
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  • #5,823
  • Aug 17, 2018 8:47am Aug 17, 2018 8:47am
TP in long GJ hit....

;-)

Bye
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  • #5,824
  • Aug 17, 2018 10:24am Aug 17, 2018 10:24am
Quoting rockit
{quote} Now looking devastated: {image}
Are you the only person that managed to have similar indicators to FF?
How are you doing with them?

Regards
  • #5,825
  • Aug 18, 2018 2:13am Aug 18, 2018 2:13am
Hi FF,

I have some concern about your goal to clean up the FX Industry hence I have not taken part in your poll.

Even if you convince every retail trader at our level to understand what SM are doing it will have no effect on the big picture. Even if this was possible SM would simply adjust their algos. This could also effectively cause FX to become a zero-sum game. Your charts/strategy would then also become irrelevant. Would you be able to create an alternate strategy? We would end up being the "losers" and the +90% fail rate would prevail.

If you really "love" us then maybe it would be better to leave things as they are and (I think I can speak for many people here) we would hate to see you go. For me your thread has induced a fundamental paradigm shift to my analysis and I can honestly say that it has been hugely beneficial.

Please stay safe.
  • #5,826
  • Aug 18, 2018 5:51am Aug 18, 2018 5:51am
davidman,

these are some interesting thoughts.
Here my answer:


"Even if you convince every retail trader at our level to understand what SM are doing it will have no effect on the big picture. Even if this was possible SM would simply adjust their algos."

Well, here the mind-boggling thing:
1. Believe it or not, but even if all DM traders around the world would see the charts here, most of them would still do a lot of "irrational" mistakes.
Only a small selection of people has the mindset, discipline, psychological ability to trade on a professional level.

2. Even if "too many" DM traders (so BIGGER accounts) would trade "correctly" as shown here, the point at which the SM would need to "change" their games is VERY FAR AWAY. That means, most likely, nothing would change whatsoever until the point where INDEED too much DM money has become "smarter".

3. In that scenario where "too much DM" has become too smart, the FX market would change indeed because the SM Algos would adjust.
How?
Well, there are luckily NOT unlimited options. For example, the "new norm" could become 5 pre-counter-run moves rather than 3. But again, the "smarter DM" would incorporate that, so it will ALWAYS remain a "cat and mouse game". But guess what,

IT ALREADY IS.

;-)

FF
www.sme-fx.com
  • #5,827
  • Aug 18, 2018 5:52am Aug 18, 2018 5:52am
" We would end up being the "losers" and the +90% fail rate would prevail."

This would never happen. See above.

"For me your thread has induced a fundamental paradigm shift to my analysis and I can honestly say that it has been hugely beneficial.
Please stay safe."

Thank you dear.

FF
www.sme-fx.com
  • #5,828
  • Aug 18, 2018 5:59am Aug 18, 2018 5:59am
"
Well, here the mind-boggling thing:
1. Believe it or not, but even if all DM traders around the world would see the charts here, most of them would still do a lot of "irrational" mistakes.
Only a small selection of people has the mindset, discipline, psychological ability to trade on a professional level.
2. Even if "too many" DM traders (so BIGGER accounts) would trade "correctly" as shown here, the point at which the SM would need to "change" their games is VERY FAR AWAY. That means, most likely, nothing would change whatsoever until the point where INDEED too much DM money has become "smarter".
3. In that scenario where "too much DM" has become too smart, the FX market would change indeed because the SM Algos would adjust.
How?
Well, there are luckily NOT unlimited options. For example, the "new norm" could become 5 pre-counter-run moves rather than 3. But again, the "smarter DM" would incorporate that, so it will ALWAYS remain a "cat and mouse game". But guess what,
IT ALREADY IS."


That being said,

the point where the "Smart Money Elite" will start to be "seen" by SM Algos is not super far away in terms of ACCUMULATED ACCOUNT SIZE....

Where exactly that number is though is something NOBODY knows at this point in time.

FF
www.sme-fx.com
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  • Aug 18, 2018 6:00am Aug 18, 2018 6:00am
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  • #5,830
  • Aug 18, 2018 7:16am Aug 18, 2018 7:16am
Quoting FractalFreak
" Well, here the mind-boggling thing: 1. Believe it or not, but even if all DM traders around the world would see the charts here, most of them would still do a lot of "irrational" mistakes. Only a small selection of people has the mindset, discipline, psychological ability to trade on a professional level. 2. Even if "too many" DM traders (so BIGGER accounts) would trade "correctly" as shown here, the point at which the SM would need to "change" their games is VERY FAR AWAY. That means, most likely, nothing would change whatsoever until the point...

FF,
I'm not really concerned about changes, people adapt.
Algos will adapt the cycle wil begin again.
MY main concern is for you, retail traders generally care for themselves.
SM will come after you, we can guess they will use every unethical tools they have.
Your ideology to help has to be applauded, however how many will support you..
As it said by the elders *when the sun is ascending all are here but when sun is descending no body is.
People will look after themselves, who will look after your back, when you need it.
  • #5,831
  • Aug 18, 2018 7:44am Aug 18, 2018 7:44am
Quoting HUZee
{quote} FF, I'm not really concerned about changes, people adapt. Algos will adapt the cycle wil begin again. MY main concern is for you, retail traders generally care for themselves. SM will come after you, we can guess they will use every unethical tools they have. Your ideology to help has to be applauded, however how many will support you.. As it said by the elders *when the sun is ascending all are here but when sun is descending no body is. People will look after themselves, who will look after your back, when you need it.
If FF needs help... I'll send the wife!

SM... be afraid... very afraid!
  • #5,832
  • Aug 18, 2018 7:48am Aug 18, 2018 7:48am
Quoting davidman
{quote} If FF needs help... I'll send the wife! SM... be afraid... very afraid!
Love it.

After that comment you need to stay safe from your wife.
  • #5,833
  • Aug 18, 2018 7:50am Aug 18, 2018 7:50am
Quoting HUZee
{quote} Love it. After that comment you need to stay safe from your wife.
hehe... no need for that advice bro... I learned the hard way!
  • #5,834
  • Aug 18, 2018 8:19am Aug 18, 2018 8:19am
Quoting davidman
{quote} hehe... no need for that advice bro... I learned the hard way!
The wife has told me not to assume everyone on this thread is a Bro or Dude and, I'm afraid, I have to agree with her.

So apologiies to all the Sisters and Dudesses out there.
  • #5,835
  • Aug 18, 2018 11:14am Aug 18, 2018 11:14am
I can only predict one thing. This thread's activity will simply die after FF stops posting. All the currently active participants will try to defend in FF's absence for a while...maybe for weeks or few months or even a year tops. After that, it will become a pile of garbage for any new reader to generate interest to devote his/her time to study the charts from the past. I won't be surprised if this ends up in the recycle bin (like most good threads)

Regarding recent comment on women, I feel they are far far superior humans than men. They have the mental strength and descipline that men cannot even come close to. They are born tough to resist and persist in whatever they choose to desire...and they are always right as I am still trying to prove her wrong that trading is not gambling. Back in 2006, we traded two blown accounts together. She quit by claimig that trading is no different than gambling and didn't want to blow her 3rd account. Two years later, she calls me an "addictive gambler" and that day was the promise I made to her (and myself) that I will never deposit new funds. I have yet to break that promise!
Unfortunately, that promise resulted in slower growth as I had to use my profits to try out new strategies :-(
Yuck....first five years were beyond trecherous but I cannot thank my wife enough for being by my side for the last 24 years. I am like a difficult pimple that won't go away LOL

Quoting HUZee
{quote} FF, I'm not really concerned about changes, people adapt. Algos will adapt the cycle wil begin again. MY main concern is for you, retail traders generally care for themselves. SM will come after you, we can guess they will use every unethical tools they have. Your ideology to help has to be applauded, however how many will support you.. As it said by the elders *when the sun is ascending all are here but when sun is descending no body is. People will look after themselves, who will look after your back, when you need it.
This is the precise reason why I voted No to the poll on first page. It's a no brainier. Only a few dozen are actively participating (of which many could be simply broker minions) and at peak times some 50-60 non-member show up to read this thread. Only regulation from all developed countries to permanently ban retail Spot FX will make a difference.

Quoting davidman
{quote} The wife has told me not to assume everyone on this thread is a Bro or Dude and, I'm afraid, I have to agree with her. So apologiies to all the Sisters and Dudesses out there.
This is true. I recall many years ago, I was exchanging posts with a member and after some time, I get a PM for "her" saying she is not a dude but also requested me to continue calling her dude just to avoid trolls bothering her. She was a homemaker at that time :-)
Staying in my lane...
  • #5,836
  • Aug 18, 2018 12:21pm Aug 18, 2018 12:21pm
Quoting VEEFX
I can only predict one thing. This thread's activity will simply die after FF stops posting. All the currently active participants will try to defend in FF's absence for a while...maybe for weeks or few months or even a year tops. After that, it will become a pile of garbage for any new reader to generate interest to devote his/her time to study the charts from the past. I won't be surprised if this ends up in the recycle bin (like most good threads) Regarding recent comment on women, I feel they are far far superior humans than men. They have the...
Veefx

I'm a firm believer we are equal, women and men differ in superiority.
I agree women are truly amazing in their ability to bear all sorts of hardships and their uncanny abilities to predict outcomes.
If men listened to women a bit more, the world could just be a more compassionate place.
  • #5,837
  • Aug 19, 2018 5:32am Aug 19, 2018 5:32am
Hey VEEFX,

What cable you use to connect your ass to your PC man!?... Hollow fibre?

Love & Peace bro!
  • #5,838
  • Aug 19, 2018 9:59am Aug 19, 2018 9:59am
Quoting FractalFreak
" Well, here the mind-boggling thing: 1. Believe it or not, but even if all DM traders around the world would see the charts here, most of them would still do a lot of "irrational" mistakes. Only a small selection of people has the mindset, discipline, psychological ability to trade on a professional level. 2. Even if "too many" DM traders (so BIGGER accounts) would trade "correctly" as shown here, the point at which the SM would need to "change" their games is VERY FAR AWAY. That means, most likely, nothing would change whatsoever until the point...
OK FF... to continue...

According to my own "hollow fibre" principles I am assuming that the SM Institutions (Brokers etc.) are the only sources where Joe Average (you, me, etc.) will be able to acquire meta-data at significant cost or unless one is able to hack into their systems. I also assume the deeper the levels the more expensive it becomes and thus the longer the jail time when caught.

And this is my point... If you want to clean up the FX Industry and the enemy is SM then surely you will effectively be killing the golden goose providing you with the golden eggs?

I'm just trying to understand... with respect.

Regards.
  • #5,839
  • Aug 19, 2018 12:05pm Aug 19, 2018 12:05pm
Someone PM'd me asking why FF does not provide Indicators which render the videos useless.

For the benefit af any other new folk I will take the liberty of posting my answer in an open forum.

FF has no intention of ever providing Indicators. He has access to information that most of us could never afford nor have the expertise to use. For me the only reason for this thread is to make us aware of how the Smart Money (SM) manipulate price. Personally, I am grateful for this knowledge because I was totally unaware of this phenomena.

The videos are very important to understand because they explain some of the tricks SM use. FF also has a You Tube channel with many live charts which I found very helpful. As far as his charts are concerned it is important to see how price target the Dumb Money(DM) Stop Loss positions. You don't need indicators to know where these SL positions are. Many are very obvious to see eg. Support & Resistance levels, trend lines, tops, bottoms, head & shoulders, round numbers, etc. all the places where the FX Industry teach us to put our SL levels... go figure! There are also many not so obvious targets which I am still trying to figure out.

What I am now doing is developing my own strategy taking all these factors into consideration. This information has been very helpful to me. What I suggest is to fully understand the knowledge that FF has provided and use it with your existing strategy. I am sure you already know that Money Management is even more important.

And most important... have fun.
  • #5,840
  • Aug 19, 2018 2:14pm Aug 19, 2018 2:14pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} I feel sorry for your "hollow" life. You need to work on your "emotional stability" bro. May I suggest you put me on ignore and enjoy life with your loved ones. {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image}
No problem Man! Apologies for my sick humour.

You can "flush" your post whenever you ready Dude.
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