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  • #4,961
  • Jul 24, 2018 1:23pm Jul 24, 2018 1:23pm
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  • #4,962
  • Jul 25, 2018 12:25am Jul 25, 2018 12:25am
Quoting FractalFreak
GJ (M15): {image}

EG with yellow Limit accumulation below price at .88700, so i figure they wont go that far so the longies cant hop on the up ride to take out the shorties. time to go long
  • #4,963
  • Jul 25, 2018 3:25am Jul 25, 2018 3:25am
GU M15:
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  • #4,964
  • Jul 25, 2018 3:26am Jul 25, 2018 3:26am
EU:
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  • #4,965
  • Jul 25, 2018 3:27am Jul 25, 2018 3:27am
AU:
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  • #4,966
  • Jul 25, 2018 3:27am Jul 25, 2018 3:27am
NU:
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  • #4,967
  • Jul 25, 2018 3:49am Jul 25, 2018 3:49am
NU, AU, GU look kind of bearish....I think I will place some short limits there today.....
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  • #4,968
  • Jul 25, 2018 3:52am Jul 25, 2018 3:52am
pamc,

here EG:
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  • #4,969
  • Jul 25, 2018 4:01am Jul 25, 2018 4:01am
Quoting FractalFreak
pamc, here EG: {image}
Thanks FF seems new longies need to be taken out with a spike just below on the 88750 level above the limits at 88700 before heading north.
  • #4,970
  • Jul 25, 2018 4:04am Jul 25, 2018 4:04am
Quoting FractalFreak
"Its about SM algo... It moves opposite to DM longies vs DM shorties lot sizes on each tick { it looks simple algo though} or they consider only DM's SLs levels only when deciding the direction of movement?" kkptra... can you rephrase? FF
As per your information SM algo move the price against DM positions ..... Either it is done instantly (your screenshots tells so, price bar moves opposite direction to DM new positions) or it may wait and think about whether to run fir stop loss run/counter stop loss run/range for accumulating more positions /house cleaning etc. . If it is done instant then having the information about DM positions is having no edge and if it do not react instantly then scalper have a chance without requiring the info of DM positions .. I strongly believe pure mathematical EA will do good job here. .. So tell us if SM algo react immediately when DM open a new trade or it gives any buffer
  • #4,971
  • Jul 25, 2018 4:20am Jul 25, 2018 4:20am
Quoting Kkptra
{quote} As per your information SM algo move the price against DM positions ..... Either it is done instantly (your screenshots tells so, price bar moves opposite direction to DM new positions) or it may wait and think about whether to run fir stop loss run/counter stop loss run/range for accumulating more positions /house cleaning etc. . If it is done instant then having the information about DM positions is having no edge and if it do not react instantly then scalper have a chance without requiring the info of DM positions .. I strongly believe...

I wouldthink that they see volume/lots and balue traded and respond based on a minimum threshold.
  • #4,972
  • Jul 25, 2018 4:48am Jul 25, 2018 4:48am
Quoting Kkptra
{quote} As per your information SM algo move the price against DM positions ..... Either it is done instantly (your screenshots tells so, price bar moves opposite direction to DM new positions) or it may wait and think about whether to run fir stop loss run/counter stop loss run/range for accumulating more positions /house cleaning etc. . If it is done instant then having the information about DM positions is having no edge and if it do not react instantly then scalper have a chance without requiring the info of DM positions .. I strongly believe...
My understanding from the videos (and experience) is that there are not immediate movements for two reasons:
- it will be too obvious
- The SM uses the principle of range and time to their max benefit (see video)
  • #4,973
  • Jul 25, 2018 5:02am Jul 25, 2018 5:02am
I think only FF can confirm on this, because he watches the DM positions live..... I think if reaction of SM algo is instant then even FF will not be able to take advantage of additional info as in very next movement DM can flow in bigger size in opposite positions and SM algo will react accordingly ....
  • #4,974
  • Edited 8:31am Jul 25, 2018 6:00am | Edited 8:31am
"As per your information SM algo move the price against DM positions ..... Either it is done instantly (your screenshots tells so, price bar moves opposite direction to DM new positions) or it may wait and think about whether to run fir stop loss run/counter stop loss run/range for accumulating more positions /house cleaning etc."


No,

not instantly.

The same goes flor the stop-hunts, the SM Algos are NOT in a rush.

Quite the opposite.

Most of the time, by letting the market go flat for some hours, the DM just increases the same positions and moves their stop closer.

I have elaborated on that game quite in detail.

Stay safe,
FF
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  • #4,975
  • Jul 25, 2018 6:12am Jul 25, 2018 6:12am
Yes, thanks FF.....
  • #4,976
  • Jul 25, 2018 8:10am Jul 25, 2018 8:10am
Thanks again FF for all your posts and screenshots you have posted here!

I have question regarding to H4 outer range.

I found from earlier posts that you said:
outer range M15 (OR): range of last 3 sessions
outer range H4 (OR): range of last month

And in post #4937 you said to aimsttrader that:
I would NOT do that trade.
GJ is OR (=outter range).

And when I look for a GJ chart I could not understand how it is outer range:
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I highlighted the range of last 30 calendar days. Maybe I got something wrong?

On your screenshots it seems that you are using some kind of a TMA-channel to represent the current "H4 price channel". Is it that TMA-channel that actually shows the current IR/OR channel?

And what I also have found is that your channel indicator (on H4 charts) also repaints. I have found it a bit problematic using a repainting indicator. But you have found that it is the best tool for that purpose?
  • #4,977
  • Jul 25, 2018 8:30am Jul 25, 2018 8:30am
GJ M15:
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  • Jul 25, 2018 8:30am Jul 25, 2018 8:30am
EJ M15:
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  • Jul 25, 2018 8:30am Jul 25, 2018 8:30am
EU M15:
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  • #4,980
  • Jul 25, 2018 8:31am Jul 25, 2018 8:31am
AU M15:
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