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  • #3,101
  • Jun 28, 2018 12:12pm Jun 28, 2018 12:12pm
Quoting zeac14
{quote} Haha.. I said I learnt something, I didn't say I learnt how to trade M15 without his charts. I learnt to keep in mind the manipulation that's going on now, because previously I really traded with the mindset of demand supply and news moving markets. Btw I do trade D1 charts which is profitable and less subject to manipulation, though now I believe that can also be manipulated if there is enough bias. So assuming that FF no longer updates the thread, do you have any other suggestions or teachings which we can make use to implement the knowledge...
regarding this question, my answer is that I trust math. I also know that SM manipulates prices, hunting SLs etc., but I also know that they have to move the prices in one direction or another at some point in time. otherwise they cannot make real profits.

so my strategy is built on the above facts.
On ignore list of scammers, deceivers and low IQ individuals. Exclusively
  • #3,103
  • Jun 28, 2018 12:16pm Jun 28, 2018 12:16pm
Quoting JustPipping
{quote} This is for everybody following this thread, study his charts, study the price behaviour before these moves happen and you dont need FF charts to trade profitable consistently. For the people who just trade off his charts i will say shame on them!! What you are saying is true for the people that come here just for a quick fix but i can see there are some that are really doing their best. Personally i dont trade off Fraktals charts but i think me and FF look at the same entry's. So indeed if you come here to just take trades off his charts...
For those who are serious about trading I mean really serious this thread is a great resource for the those blinded by their own ignorance unrealistic expectations of the markets and pure old lazynes I have bad news for you FF CAN'T SAVE YOU only you can SAVE YOURSELF "No easy money"
  • #3,104
  • Jun 28, 2018 12:21pm Jun 28, 2018 12:21pm
Quoting bfx17
{quote} I would say that 99% of the FF followers are completely captive at this moment. EDIT: so what's next? think about it.
Captive? Why? Information like this you cant acquire everywhere and even if FF decided to stop giving out FREE knowledge there is plenty in this thread you could've learned from until now. I see hundreds of threads on this forum full of garbage and this one right here that really deserves to be on a pedestal gets all the hate? For me i dont care whats next nor do i care about his followers that really are kept captive because they only come here to look at the charts and expect that FF will just throw out everything he knows at them while they dont even put in some basic work. Use your brain or be held captive!
Was slipping off the edge but i held up.
  • #3,105
  • Jun 28, 2018 12:22pm Jun 28, 2018 12:22pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} Since we are agreeing a little bit today, may I ask how others are analysing your screenshots with no mention of pair or price. To have a meaningful conversation, there has to be more than just a "empty" screenshot with no pair or price or time information. I would love to connect the dots with my strategy and how it is handling manipulation but with the current flow of this thread, it is becoming impossible for me...are others also experiencing the same struggle with the frequent screenshots or is it just me?
Thanks VEEFX I thought it was only me... don't see the point of so much repetition
2+2=4
2+2=4
2+2=4
2+2=4
2+2=4
2+2=4
Now tell how much is 2+2 ?
  • #3,106
  • Jun 28, 2018 12:30pm Jun 28, 2018 12:30pm
FractalFreak im really waiting on that vid on the levels of consciousness and how it creates your reality would love to get your take on it...thanks buddy
  • #3,107
  • Jun 28, 2018 12:32pm Jun 28, 2018 12:32pm
Quoting JGalt
{quote} Thanks VEEFX I thought it was only me... don't see the point of so much repetition 2+2=4 2+2=4 2+2=4 2+2=4 2+2=4 2+2=4 Now tell how much is 2+2 ?
Yep....CIQ can only go up with active and engaging participation with asking a ton a questions, thinking by yourself and contributing back to have a engaging and balanced point of view. just increasing page hits or page counts or post counts actually decays the interest of topic at hand. just my experience as I have been part of many focus groups and virtual learning sessions at work. that is how creativity and innovation is fostered in a work place.Every leader has to keep his workforce 110% engaged at all times in order to remain a productive workforce. Same principles apply to forums also (but in a completely UN-controlled environment which makes the learning progress quite slow and painful). The thread owner has to control the narrative not just in content but also in PACE.
Staying in my lane...
  • #3,108
  • Jun 28, 2018 12:35pm Jun 28, 2018 12:35pm
Quoting bfx17
{quote} regarding this question, my answer is that I trust math. I also know that SM manipulates prices, hunting SLs etc., but I also know that they have to move the prices in one direction or another at some point in time. otherwise they cannot make real profits. so my strategy is built on the above facts.
Agree!

Translation (and I love repeating myself): Do what Market (makers) HAS to do to survive? Can you imagine them making the market in just one direction in a straight line? Do what market ALWAYS does! That is the only name of the game here and trust the damn data for once... Everything is in the data itself. There is really no need for any screenshots or analysis!
Staying in my lane...
  • #3,109
  • Jun 28, 2018 12:38pm Jun 28, 2018 12:38pm
Quoting bfx17
{quote} I suppose FF will tell you the next steps
I’ll tell you, go get mentored by a retired forex market maker, like I have.
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  • #3,110
  • Jun 28, 2018 12:42pm Jun 28, 2018 12:42pm
Quoting callmechief
{quote} Dealing Desks have total transparency. And think about it this way, if all liquidity providers did the same thing, why wouldn't they communicate (Via Reuters Dealing and other communication systems of the Interbank Market) to do the same thing! It's easy to say that only one out of every 1,000 knows what's REALLY going on....
Anyone who has really managed a real mission critical production environment in the corporate world would understand what you are saying.... everything in the professional world is extremely compartmentalized and robust governance, compliance, audit, reporting, approval structure in place at all levels. This happens in the non-financial corporate world because I deal with this shit every day for past 20+ yrs. In finances and large banks, this shit must be like 10 times more intense and in high sensitive (defense) type places, this shit all happens in immense vaccumm. My very first job (I quit after 6 months) from college was to work for a defense contractor as a C developer. I coud not take it because I was locked in a room with ZERO interaction with my peers... I could engage only with my manager who would shit on me EVERY DAY converting my 50+ lines of code into 3-4 lines and make me feel like a dirtbag. There are certain places that absolutely require such rigor.... and when there are billions involved, I can only imagine the rigor involved!
Staying in my lane...
  • #3,111
  • Jun 28, 2018 12:43pm Jun 28, 2018 12:43pm
Quoting callmechief
{quote} I’ll tell you, go get mentored by a retired forex market maker, like I have. {image} {image} {image}
On ignore list of scammers, deceivers and low IQ individuals. Exclusively
  • #3,112
  • Jun 28, 2018 12:46pm Jun 28, 2018 12:46pm
Quoting callmechief
{quote} I’ll tell you, go get mentored by a retired forex market maker, like I have. {image} {image} {image}
A little off topic but could you explain the psychology or the reasoning behind placing 3 separate trades at the same time/price level? (apart from liquidity/slippage) related)
Staying in my lane...
  • #3,113
  • Jun 28, 2018 12:46pm Jun 28, 2018 12:46pm
Quoting JustPipping
{quote} This is for everybody following this thread, study his charts, study the price behaviour before these moves happen and you dont need FF charts to trade profitable consistently. For the people who just trade off his charts i will say shame on them!! What you are saying is true for the people that come here just for a quick fix but i can see there are some that are really doing their best. Personally i dont trade off Fraktals charts but i think me and FF look at the same entry's. So indeed if you come here to just take trades off his charts...
I am studying his charts, however I switch to a naked chart without his indicators and I become unsure of my predictions. I can still make an "educated" guess on the possible stops based on the charts shared here, but it will still become guess work, plus with time and range, even if I may be right I may exit early thinking I am wrong.

I have a suggestion, if you are willing to take up the challenge? I am not trying to put you down or test you, but I want to learn from you as well if you are willing to share. Would you be kind enough to share naked charts with your predictions, with explanations on where possible stop accumulations are and why, so that we can actually start learning where to put trades on naked charts. I promise to participate with my own comments if I have a good analysis of the chart. We can then verify that with FF's indicators, or let time do the verification. Of course, you don't have to do it if you don't want. I am just asking as I like to learn. Thank you in advance JustP
  • #3,114
  • Jun 28, 2018 12:50pm Jun 28, 2018 12:50pm
Quoting zeac14
{quote} I am studying his charts, however I switch to a naked chart without his indicators and I become unsure of my predictions. I can still make an "educated" guess on the possible stops based on the charts shared here, but it will still become guess work, plus with time and range, even if I may be right I may exit early thinking I am wrong. I have a suggestion, if you are willing to take up the challenge? I am not trying to put you down or test you, but I want to learn from you as well if you are willing to share. Would you be kind enough to...
here we go

I think this is, finally, something constructive.

PS so you made the switch to naked charts and noticed that you are blind
On ignore list of scammers, deceivers and low IQ individuals. Exclusively
  • #3,115
  • Jun 28, 2018 12:53pm Jun 28, 2018 12:53pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} A little off topic but could you explain the psychology or the reasoning behind placing 3 separate trades at the same time/price level? (apart from liquidity/slippage) related)
I traded 3 of the lots at this area becuse price pulled off of the high, and then I pulled the trigger to hop in. There was a setup and that’s where my entries landed.
Discouragement is the language of the devil. Results over hype.
  • #3,116
  • Jun 28, 2018 12:57pm Jun 28, 2018 12:57pm
Quoting callmechief
{quote} I traded 3 of the lots at this area becuse price pulled off of the high, and then I pulled the trigger to hop in. There was a setup and that’s where my entries landed.
so there is no scale in or scale out strategy in place. I was just curious as I have seen others also enter 3+ trades and exit 3+ trades all at the same time..which I could not understand

EDIT- noticed you are from US... is this related to FIFO?
Staying in my lane...
  • #3,117
  • Jun 28, 2018 12:58pm Jun 28, 2018 12:58pm
Quoting callmechief
{quote} I traded 3 of the lots at this area becuse price pulled off of the high, and then I pulled the trigger to hop in. There was a setup and that’s where my entries landed.
I think he was asking why you traded 3x 10 lots, instead of just put 30 lots? Not why you entered the trade.


Btw I also like to ask. What was the set up you saw, can you elaborate how we can spot such set ups?
  • #3,118
  • Jun 28, 2018 1:00pm Jun 28, 2018 1:00pm
Quoting bfx17
{quote} here we go I think this is, finally, something constructive. PS so you made the switch to naked charts and noticed that you are blind
This was mentioned pretty early in the thread already..
  • #3,119
  • Jun 28, 2018 1:06pm Jun 28, 2018 1:06pm
Quoting zeac14
{quote} I think he was asking why you traded 3x 10 lots, instead of just put 30 lots? Not why you entered the trade. Btw I also like to ask. What was the set up you saw, can you elaborate how we can spot such set ups?
He answered the question. The trader had a bias and after placing the first order the trade went against him. Soo what most do is they add on to the position which they just took that went in red. Most traders do that and it is a way to maniplate the total of shares profitted.
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  • #3,120
  • Jun 28, 2018 1:07pm Jun 28, 2018 1:07pm
Quoting zeac14
{quote} I am studying his charts, however I switch to a naked chart without his indicators and I become unsure of my predictions. I can still make an "educated" guess on the possible stops based on the charts shared here, but it will still become guess work, plus with time and range, even if I may be right I may exit early thinking I am wrong. I have a suggestion, if you are willing to take up the challenge? I am not trying to put you down or test you, but I want to learn from you as well if you are willing to share. Would you be kind enough to...
Sure i have no problems with that but i dont trade like FF, i dont look at stop accumulations. So i only can show you my predictions at London open when i look for setups but i cant predict exactly what move they are going to make tomorrow until the moment it happens.
Was slipping off the edge but i held up.
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