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  • #2,081
  • Jun 11, 2018 7:10am Jun 11, 2018 7:10am
Quoting bfx17
{quote} Let me be the first to vote: 2 & 3
What a bunch of absolute idiots. What don't you guys get about "go somewhere else" and "we don't need your saving"? Are you truly that dull?

There are people here that are really interested in learning from FF and apparently some of you can't read well enough to get that message through your brick heads.

Is your life really that pathetic that you have nothing better to do than harass and interrupt with your useless distractions and discontent? Some of you really need some mental help. Amazing!!

Please, get a life and leave the rest of us that want to learn from him alone.
  • #2,082
  • Jun 11, 2018 8:32am Jun 11, 2018 8:32am
Quoting Hambone
{quote} What a bunch of absolute idiots. What don't you guys get about "go somewhere else" and "we don't need your saving"? Are you truly that dull? There are people here that are really interested in learning from FF and apparently some of you can't read well enough to get that message through your brick heads. Is your life really that pathetic that you have nothing better to do than harass and interrupt with your useless distractions and discontent? Some of you really need some mental help. Amazing!! Please, get a life and leave the rest of us...
Cool down Jambone. Dont be so angry
You forgot to specify your choice out of those 3.
Now, keep calm and try again
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  • #2,083
  • Jun 11, 2018 8:40am Jun 11, 2018 8:40am
Quoting bfx17
{quote} Cool down Jambone. Dont be so angry You forgot to specify your choice out of those 3. Now, keep calm and try again
I appreciate the suggestion but I'm not mad. I'm simply stating what needs to be said to the disrupters and distractors. As to this poll too - its useless. It makes no difference what my opinion is about what he will do once he is taken off suspension. How does that help any of us? If it doesn't positively contribute to the discussion of the content then it is useless and wastes everyone's time....just like this very response. So if you have anything you want to say to me directly, please PM me and save the rest of the legit learners here from having to wade through this kind of muck. Thanks for considering.
  • #2,085
  • Jun 11, 2018 9:15am Jun 11, 2018 9:15am
Quoting Hambone
{quote} I appreciate the suggestion but I'm not mad. I'm simply stating what needs to be said to the disrupters and distractors. As to this poll too - its useless. It makes no difference what my opinion is about what he will do once he is taken off suspension. How does that help any of us? If it doesn't positively contribute to the discussion of the content then it is useless and wastes everyone's time....just like this very response. So if you have anything you want to say to me directly, please PM me and save the rest of the legit learners here...
PPS I honestly believe that FF was suspended 2 times for no reason, but this doesn't change what I mentioned about how this thread is going.
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  • #2,086
  • Jun 11, 2018 9:53am Jun 11, 2018 9:53am
I hope he comes back and chooses 1, that is what I want. But I really don't think that is his style, and like he stated from the start, he has his own rules and will decide what he wants to do.
  • #2,087
  • Jun 11, 2018 10:10am Jun 11, 2018 10:10am
OK. Let me try once again to see if we can get back to content. Here's a repost of my question to FF from earlier. FF, if you are off suspension, please respond so that a productive discussion can continue.

FF - please check my understanding of the following..

STS Principle - STS's are the closest stop clouds to the current price. The oscillations we see on the shorter time frames are the MM moving price to exploit the STSs

STS Tolerance Principle - Some allowance is made by the MM for some STSs to go unattended in the short run so that they can: 1. Pursue higher value stops (i.e. MT or LT if the greater profit is there) and 2. Disguise/Cover their actions with the appearance of "randomness"

Counter STS Principle - When the STSs that are in the Target area are moved away from their original positions the MM moves price in the opposite direction to take out closer counter stops and entice the traders who moved their stops back to within easy targeting range.

STS Killing Principle - when the MM uses "events - (i.e. news, session transitions, specific hours, etc.) to surge and retract price in both directions quickly to take out STSs

Now for the question:
Let's assume that we (who are at an informational disadvantage compared to MM and you) can use our chart pattern analysis and correctly identify STS clouds and MTS clouds. So we know that the MM is going to move price to those levels at some point. Our informational disadvantage now is that we don't know which one they will pursue first since we don't have the accumulation Position Bars that you have. The density of the stops in that particular cloud are what determine the priority because they are the most profitable areas for the MM. This being the case, what can we do to better determine the first direction the MM will move?
  • #2,088
  • Jun 11, 2018 10:17am Jun 11, 2018 10:17am
Quoting neilsdigest
What was this thread about again... I've been Psychologically manipulated to be here... Veefx says "And leave the Factory as quickly as possible... before your knowledge Decay happens. This place is a SWAMP! Run Brother Run !" I'd run... I am far away from this place... If you don't believe this place is full of crazy people read this thread.... There not Psychologically manipulated but just forex factory Psychos! https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=762657
Since you mentioned thread started by me, I should say this... people should be running away from you...look at your blabbering...going from this to that to this and finally coming back to that. what a moron.

It seems you thrive on forexfactory users' feedback, IMs and praises.

And I also figured if you don't post for every 10mins, some kind of post on/about anything, you get bored...and seems that qualifies you as Psycho. We have seen several of your attempts to quit a thread, run from there...due to your addiction you never able to do..Get a Life.
newzTrader
  • #2,089
  • Edited 11:22am Jun 11, 2018 10:27am | Edited 11:22am
Quoting ZyzzAlba
Looks like FF has been suspended again..... A bit of a nuisance now
WTF....this is becoming a drama on Broadway. :-(

As I said at the very begnning, the intent might be sincere but his approach here on the factory is flawed right from the beginning. If I had such information, I would have done this sooooo differently but another conspiracy theorist in me tell me this behavior is all part of his design to intentionally get banned from the broker-ad-funded factory just to prove his theory of SM coming after DM traders like us miserabs waiting for some fancy indicator to tell us buy buy buy or sell sell sell based on the length and color of some bar. There is NO such Holy Grail and waiting for OP to return is just a sad sad scenario folks.

It takes at least a decade of hard work to just develop a robust strategy in this complex market structure with absolutely no gaurantees the strategy will ever succeed in the long run. That is the hard truth about l trading. The ads, bloggers and YouTube gurus will always make this industry sound so lucarative as dreams is what pays their bills.

It is about time everyone understands that trading is just NOT for everyone!!! Raise your awareness and standards folks. Demand performance statements first and foremost by thread openers before getting sucked in. Demand that they deliver at least 3 times the average annual performance of SnP. If not, you are better off making average returns from stock market. It offers a far better risk adjusted return compared to this scam-filled forex trading industry.

Look around at the Factory. All the long and short running threads and ask the number one question you should know.... "Is this strategy profitable, for how long and where is the proof/evidence? If you don't find it, it only prooves the OP is just a lonely fool living a miserable life in his Mama's basement looking for other loners to chat and waste everyone's time. Factory is a magnet for such idiots and Factory loves to have them out here to generate page hits and ad revenue.

VeeFX: The world around you will never change unless you think and act differently! Start with your loved ones before they leave you alone to live your miserable life!
Staying in my lane...
  • #2,090
  • Jun 11, 2018 12:09pm Jun 11, 2018 12:09pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} WTF....this is becoming a drama on Broadway. :-( As I said at the very begnning, the intent might be sincere but his approach here on the factory is flawed right from the beginning. If I had such information, I would have done this sooooo differently but another conspiracy theorist in me tell me this behavior is all part of his design to intentionally get banned from the broker-ad-funded factory just to prove his theory of SM coming after DM traders like us miserabs waiting for some fancy indicator to tell us buy buy buy or sell sell sell...
well said. agree with you.

smart way to trade, hard way to trade...

though we all prefer to trade smart, hard way also works.

only thing is we dont know if they all are profitable...

as you said, unless we see a historical profit factor for 5 years minimum, which I doubt if any of those self-proclaimed pro traders have and willing to show, all of their systems belong to bin.
newzTrader
  • #2,091
  • Jun 11, 2018 12:18pm Jun 11, 2018 12:18pm
Quoting newzTrader
{quote} well said. agree with you. smart way to trade, hard way to trade... though we all prefer to trade smart, hard way also works. only thing is we dont know if they all are profitable... as you said, unless we see a historical profit factor for 5 years minimum, which I doubt if any of those self-proclaimed pro traders have and willing to show, all of their systems belong to bin.
Yep... my research tells me ALL TA and PA systems dependent on Price x Time series will fail within 3 years with the exception of Tick-based systems which I could not include in my testing framework. Look around us, almost 99% of threads are TA or PA based and almost 99% of retail traders lose their shirts in this environment. There seems to be a common theme that NO ONE is willing to acknowledge and take necessary steps to think "outside of swamp factory". Unless you dig yourself a mile deep into the actual data, you will always be blinded by charts and price driven strategies.
Staying in my lane...
  • #2,092
  • Jun 11, 2018 1:20pm Jun 11, 2018 1:20pm
And here we go again...more useless opinions and mumblings that provide no value...Simply astounding.

After all of the requests, after all of the pleads for ForexFactory discontents, distractors, and pseudo-Philosophers to go share their ramblings and philosophies somewhere else, with FF silenced, this thread has become another carcase left to be picked apart by the scavengers. Congratulations - well done. Another thread destroyed by the mob who have nothing better to do with their lives. What a shame.

To FF - I'll send you a PM but wanted to state publicly as well - you knew all along - Pearls before swine. Appears that there are just too many swine to handle right now. Let's find another place to continue where those interested can focus without all of the distraction. Thanks for what you shared. I suggest you not expend anymore of your time trying to help in this context. "I Corinthians 14:38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant." It is a truth that you cannot change.

I'm certainly done on this thread unless you return.
  • #2,093
  • Jun 11, 2018 1:32pm Jun 11, 2018 1:32pm
Hi FF has made a new video:

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  • #2,094
  • Jun 11, 2018 3:10pm Jun 11, 2018 3:10pm
Quoting newzTrader
{quote} Since you mentioned thread started by me, I should say this... people should be running away from you...look at your blabbering...going from this to that to this and finally coming back to that. what a moron. It seems you thrive on forexfactory users' feedback, IMs and praises. And I also figured if you don't post for every 10mins, some kind of post on/about anything, you get bored...and seems that qualifies you as Psycho. We have seen several of your attempts to quit a thread, run from there...due to your addiction you never able to do..Get...
hahahaha but why comment in big blue letters.....

What did I tell you and the others in early May and you said I was an idiot for taking 10 lots in a sell on the USD/CHF when it was going up and in an uptrend...... You thought it was a joke. The other said it was shit.. I got called every thing under the sun..

Now do the math newstrader.

Nearly 200 pips (2000 points up to you) - I don't need anyone. I will never follow anyone. I don't need to. I don't need this place.

I don't post in the other thread now cause I don't have to.. Every one made money from the go until I told them not to trade as the market was resetting itself.. They did and lost... Like life people just don't listen. They think they know it all but they don't.

I worked for Barclays Investment bank for 7 years.. I worked with my father who was one of the best traders I know.

99% of the stuff on this forum is shit... but you will keep on following.. If you don't like my thread and my posts why do you keep copying and pasting them into your own?

I got called and named for not showing a real account but when I did all hell broke lose..... Was it to big for your eyes..

So who is the real moron.. My daughter can trade better then you.
The most violent element in society is IGNORANCE
  • #2,095
  • Jun 11, 2018 3:38pm Jun 11, 2018 3:38pm
Quoting Hambone
And here we go again...more useless opinions and mumblings that provide no value...Simply astounding. After all of the requests, after all of the pleads for ForexFactory discontents, distractors, and pseudo-Philosophers to go share their ramblings and philosophies somewhere else, with FF silenced, this thread has become another carcase left to be picked apart by the scavengers. Congratulations - well done. Another thread destroyed by the mob who have nothing better to do with their lives. What a shame. To FF - I'll send you a PM but wanted to state...
How would you trade based on what you know now? How would you prevent manipulation based on what you know now? Where will you set your entry and where will you exit... pick any screenshot from his video.
If inverse is what we should trade to align with the algo, the response will be "it is not that straightforward"
if going against sudden spikes (if you could catch them), the response will be "it is not that straight forward"
if trading towards stop accumulations, the response will be "it is not that simple"
and the list goes on and on.

then I offered some of my solution of ignoring wicks and other things I shared and that was also conceived as "noise" by you

You tell us what is the solution for Retail Traders? That is all I care about. How can we improve our trading based on what we learnt from his posts and videos?

I say it again....

"Should we quit trading retail spot FX? - I would personally agree as the odd are against us before we take the first trade
"what would happen if we all trade with only market orders" - The response I got was "SM know everything you do in our personal accounts... distance from margin call etc". If this is really the case, NO ONE CAN WIN IN RETAIL SPOT FX TRADING ENVIRONMENT. It will be a complete waste of time
"Should we use automated systems and trade like algos with hidden sl/tp/margin call protections etc" - This is also not an acceptable solution to FF
Then I asked " what if we all trade 1 microlot per 100K capital on a 1:1 account leverage" - I did not get a response

We kept on going in circles even after my own personal time and contribution on this thread. I value my time and effort far more than knowledge and $profits. Did I learn something ? Absolutely
Can I use it to my trading advantage to win big in a consistent manner based on information shared? I highly doubt that.

With that said, it is time to come out and tell us the Solution Statement. If you have none (it appears that way to me), it is okay to say that as well.

The infomercial can only go on for so long! It has run it's course. Time to move towards a solution if you have somethimg to share!
Staying in my lane...
  • #2,097
  • Jun 11, 2018 5:59pm Jun 11, 2018 5:59pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} Yep... my research tells me ALL TA and PA systems dependent on Price x Time series will fail within 3 years with the exception of Tick-based systems which I could not include in my testing framework. Look around us, almost 99% of threads are TA or PA based and almost 99% of retail traders lose their shirts in this environment. There seems to be a common theme that NO ONE is willing to acknowledge and take necessary steps to think "outside of swamp factory". Unless you dig yourself a mile deep into the actual data, you will always be blinded...
I have been profitable more than 3 years; and I use pure TA and PA based systems with price x time series (especially 1m and 5m bars).

Tried tick based systems; but found out that they are full of shit most of the time; because time is as important as price in trading.

the myth is busted.
  • #2,098
  • Edited 7:46pm Jun 11, 2018 6:19pm | Edited 7:46pm
Quoting alphadude
{quote} I have been profitable more than 3 years; and I use pure TA and PA based systems with price x time series (especially 1m and 5m bars). Tried tick based systems; but found out that they are full of shit most of the time; because time is as important as price in trading. the myth is busted.
Hmmmm.. where is your TE that with more than 3 yrs?
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  • #2,099
  • Jun 11, 2018 7:19pm Jun 11, 2018 7:19pm
Quoting alphadude
{quote} I have been profitable more than 3 years; and I use pure TA and PA based systems with price x time series (especially 1m and 5m bars). Tried tick based systems; but found out that they are full of shit most of the time; because time is as important as price in trading. the myth is busted.
The Forex market doesn't give a damn about time... PA is the key.. What has time got to do with trading forex. NON.

The EUR, USD, CHF etc doesn't give a damn if it's 1pm or 3.30pm.... it will do what its going to do. The Session helps but not time. Forget time when trading forex.
The most violent element in society is IGNORANCE
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