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  • #29,941
  • Jun 3, 2018 11:14am Jun 3, 2018 11:14am
Quoting billytt
{quote} wow,fancy seeing you ... I remember you saying TS, Frequency Distribution is what i took stats off, and i did not know it had a name, so thanks for that. Not sure about Advanced Alien Civilization as i have never looked at it. I always look to see how the market movers act usually just after UK open and then look for consistencies AND inconsistencies and then take stats.... Then these stats FD are then played off against each other hence i have a ridiculously high strike rate. I make more following a loss.. Anyway bud, take care and good...
Good day, Mate. I still read your thread. Been accused of many things so I keep most of my posting to my threads. Advanced Alien Civilization just a code name cause many mates kicked off for naming by name. Bunch of bollocks.

Cheers!
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  • #29,942
  • Jun 3, 2018 11:15am Jun 3, 2018 11:15am
Quoting lemercenaire
{quote} Ha, yeah, my brother had a Siberian Husky, my sister a Samoyed. The Sammy's best friend was a wee Yorkie and I used to babysit when they went on hols etc. The husky was a very, very, clever dog. Worked out how to open the electric gates by standing up on two hind legs and bopping the green button. Once she got out, she would wander for miles and miles. Led us all a merry dance through field 'n dale. My bro' added a bunch of rare black sheep to the menagerie once and you would find her sitting at the gate there. She never did anything...just...
Looks like this thread has gone to the dogs! WOOF
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  • #29,943
  • Jun 3, 2018 11:44am Jun 3, 2018 11:44am
Hi Billy,

GU
If the break for 5 pips fails, the break of the other end of 8:00-8:15 bar usually brings the pips, I have manually checked 35 occurrences so far.


How would you trade this example? The first bar is 13 pips.

Would you take the 13pips loss and reverse sell? Would you kick the counter earlier? With the same size lot or double lot size? What kind of pips will you be looking for?

Any other things you would look for? like range? If so what kind of range?

I would of doubled lot size and gone for 10pips TP and take the 13 pips loss.

Thanks any idea would help,
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  • #29,944
  • Edited 12:41pm Jun 3, 2018 11:53am | Edited 12:41pm
Quoting samuel2133
Hi Billy, GU If the break for 5 pips fails, the break of the other end of 8:00-8:15 bar usually brings the pips, I have manually checked 35 occurrences so far. How would you trade this example? The first bar is 13 pips. Would you take the 13pips loss and reverse sell? Would you kick the counter earlier? With the same size lot or double lot size? What kind of pips will you be looking for? Any other things you would look for? like range? If so what kind of range? I would of doubled lot size and gone for 10pips TP...

What if you fail also this trade? Double size again? Very risky and stressful, isnt'it?

Easy to do with micro and minilots. We are looking for money with 5-10 pips, so we are supposed to trade at least 1 lot. If you have a very very big bank (500/750k) i think it is good: you have margin and you aren't over leveraged, you can double a lot of times..

Think the worst scenario and build a plan of escape on it. On 1000 trades it could happen 1 time, if one hasn't a big bank you risk to blow months of works with 1 trade

Now i know this is unlikely to happen, but i am a little bit paranoid This is why i counter searching the breakeven for now; It's more easy for me, less stressful (i have a very small bank, less than what you think) and you are still profitable if you loss the 90% of the time

This isn't absolutely "a tip", i' m just thinking aloud
  • #29,945
  • Jun 3, 2018 1:04pm Jun 3, 2018 1:04pm
Quoting TooSlow
{quote} Good day, Mate. I still read your thread. Been accused of many things so I keep most of my posting to my threads. Advanced Alien Civilization just a code name cause many mates kicked off for naming by name. Bunch of bollocks. Cheers!
it happens, as long as you are trading and keeping well, that is the main thing..
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #29,946
  • Jun 3, 2018 1:14pm Jun 3, 2018 1:14pm
[quote=MrGreen95;11128774]{quote} What if you fail also this trade? Double size again? Very risky and stressful, isnt'it? Easy to do with micro and minilots. We are looking for money with 5-10 pips, so we are supposed to trade at least 1 lot. If you have a very very big bank (500/750k) i think it is good: you have margin and you aren't over leveraged, you can double a lot of times.. Think the worst scenario and build a plan of escape on it. On 1000 trades it could happen 1 time, if one hasn't a big bank you risk to blow months of works with 1 trade Now i know this is unlikely to happen, but i am a little bit paranoid This is why i counter searching the breakeven for now; It's more easy for me, less stressful (i have a very small bank, less than what you think) and you are still profitable if you loss the 90% of the time

Mr G, look at a gain as %%%% percentage not £££-$$$$.
500/750K i was trading with a lot lot higher but that is irrelevant, look at %%%%%%%.

if you think pessimistically you will trade pessimistically .
NO LEVERAGE and that is changing shortly for those that do...
Trades do fail and that is why we trade specific bars, we need the stats....

You do make a good point though.
one question, if that trade fails ? and that trade fails ? etc

WHAT ABOUT ,, it that trade wins? and that trade wins? etc
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #29,947
  • Jun 3, 2018 1:18pm Jun 3, 2018 1:18pm
Quoting samuel2133
Hi Billy, GU If the break for 5 pips fails, the break of the other end of 8:00-8:15 bar usually brings the pips, I have manually checked 35 occurrences so far. How would you trade this example? The first bar is 13 pips. Would you take the 13pips loss and reverse sell? Would you kick the counter earlier? With the same size lot or double lot size? What kind of pips will you be looking for? Any other things you would look for? like range? If so what kind of range? I would of doubled lot size and gone for 10pips TP and take the 13 pips loss. Thanks...
Hi, The majority of times i will adjust a candle range less than 15 to 15. so 8 will have 7 added to it.
a range of 13 might be left at 13 but like i say, it will probably be adjusted to 15.
a very small range can be telling a story.
The first break i trade as normal and then the second entry would be at the manually adjusted range with a counter and a trade for 5%.
That is the beginning
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #29,948
  • Jun 3, 2018 1:19pm Jun 3, 2018 1:19pm
Quoting TooSlow
{quote} Looks like this thread has gone to the dogs! WOOF
bark bark
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #29,949
  • Jun 3, 2018 1:20pm Jun 3, 2018 1:20pm
Quoting samuel2133
Hi Billy, GU If the break for 5 pips fails, the break of the other end of 8:00-8:15 bar usually brings the pips, I have manually checked 35 occurrences so far. How would you trade this example? The first bar is 13 pips. Would you take the 13pips loss and reverse sell? Would you kick the counter earlier? With the same size lot or double lot size? What kind of pips will you be looking for? Any other things you would look for? like range? If so what kind of range? I would of doubled lot size and gone for 10pips TP and take the 13 pips loss. Thanks...
You're getting into Secret Sauce territory...the 30G's worth

This situation can be dealt with by running WZ over Billy's base method...MY not-quite-so-secret-sauce, lol.

I'm on my phone here and if I try and type this out in detail, my thumbs will fall off...but just think about it and I can possibly get into it more next week.
  • #29,950
  • Jun 3, 2018 1:42pm Jun 3, 2018 1:42pm
Quoting lemercenaire
{quote} You're getting into Secret Sauce territory...the 30G's worth This situation can be dealt with by running WZ over Billy's base method...MY not-quite-so-secret-sauce, lol. I'm on my phone here and if I try and type this out in detail, my thumbs will fall off...but just think about it and I can possibly get into it more next week.
agreed, with a 15 min bar the range is going to be short , so i have 15 as a base line.

First thing for me is the counter, to hold the -15 and secondary the trade for the 5%.

should that fail i stick to the counters (2) and look at the 04-00 & 00-00 45 hour bars OR i repeat Or, leave it until the day after..
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #29,951
  • Jun 3, 2018 1:56pm Jun 3, 2018 1:56pm
hahaha you' re right Billy. I tend to be pessimistic, this thing is also reflected on trading

I have to work on it
  • #29,952
  • Jun 3, 2018 2:02pm Jun 3, 2018 2:02pm
To Mr G,

I checked. I am still looking to find a single fail. But I didn't check them all.


Basically, if the other end of the bar didn't break, you need to be able to bear the DD and not close the fail. It will mostly break in the original direction for 5pips (and more sometimes) or break the other end for 10 pips or more.

Third scenario, would be that it breaks first end fails, then breaks second end and fails (fails to reach 10 pips not fails to reach 5 pips) and then breaks back in the original direction and then gives 10 and more.

Price needs to take a direction.

My humble opinion.

Am I in the right path, lol.
  • #29,953
  • Jun 3, 2018 2:05pm Jun 3, 2018 2:05pm
Quoting lemercenaire
{quote} You're getting into Secret Sauce territory...the 30G's worth This situation can be dealt with by running WZ over Billy's base method...MY not-quite-so-secret-sauce, lol. I'm on my phone here and if I try and type this out in detail, my thumbs will fall off...but just think about it and I can possibly get into it more next week.
Sure Lem. I will look for your reply. Thanks buddy.
  • #29,954
  • Jun 3, 2018 2:07pm Jun 3, 2018 2:07pm
Quoting billytt
{quote} agreed, with a 15 min bar the range is going to be short , so i have 15 as a base line. First thing for me is the counter, to hold the -15 and secondary the trade for the 5%. should that fail i stick to the counters (2) and look at the 04-00 & 00-00 45 hour bars OR i repeat Or, leave it until the day after..
lol Billy, this is getting complex, but I guess the logic is simple once you do it live.

But you enter the break of that other end of the 15 range and then grab 5%?
  • #29,955
  • Jun 3, 2018 2:12pm Jun 3, 2018 2:12pm
Quoting samuel2133
To Mr G, I checked. I am still looking to find a single fail. But I didn't check them all. Basically, if the other end of the bar didn't break, you need to be able to bear the DD and not close the fail. It will mostly break in the original direction for 5pips (and more sometimes) or break the other end for 10 pips or more. Third scenario, would be that it breaks first end fails, then breaks second end and fails (fails to reach 10 pips not fails to reach 5 pips) and then breaks back in the original direction and then gives 10 and more. Price needs...
You must also remember, i play bars against each other, that is why i have stats for 00-00 and 04-00 4 bar and the 08-00 15.
Then look what happens, we have the Daily and then we might have 4 hour inside bars and even a inside bar on the Daily....
I play my first trade, if it wins i am done for the day.
If it fails i go to next trigger (most times)
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #29,956
  • Jun 3, 2018 2:13pm Jun 3, 2018 2:13pm
well it has been a gorgeous day and still is...
not heard off my gf all day lol, so she will be busy with the VW people lol
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #29,957
  • Jun 3, 2018 2:19pm Jun 3, 2018 2:19pm
Hot and very sticky here today - and all week in fact.

Time for some Misu Chicken methinks and some Roland-Garros.

See y'all tomorrow.
  • #29,958
  • Jun 3, 2018 2:43pm Jun 3, 2018 2:43pm
Quoting lemercenaire
Hot and very sticky here today - and all week in fact. Time for some Misu Chicken methinks and some Roland-Garros. See y'all tomorrow.
i have Chicken n chili and sweet potatoe,, i eat this most days. lol
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #29,959
  • Jun 3, 2018 2:52pm Jun 3, 2018 2:52pm
Quoting samuel2133
{quote} lol Billy, this is getting complex, but I guess the logic is simple once you do it live. But you enter the break of that other end of the 15 range and then grab 5%?
yes..
example......
1st trade Fail with -15 ..
2nd trade opposite end counter to hold -15.
3rd trade (IF but nearly always done) for the 5 % ...

so we have -15 & a counter & +5%.
we then hunt the -15.
AND YES, we can have a stop if we choose.
i could add a bit more to the story lol. but maybe not yet
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #29,960
  • Jun 3, 2018 2:54pm Jun 3, 2018 2:54pm
Getting back to Mr G and his fails and counters,
we can get into a position where the counters begin to cancel each other out.

It has happened but those were days long ago lol.
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
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