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  • #75,541
  • Apr 10, 2018 1:50pm Apr 10, 2018 1:50pm
Quoting SunTrader
{quote} I'm not a lib so I take that as name calling. And so would a lib by the way. While Trumpie on the other hand is a RHINO. And I have no problem calling him a name ... or two.
Arguing with libs is my hobby in the real world. None can stand up to arguments when it comes to freedom, individual rights and the US constitution.
  • #75,542
  • Apr 10, 2018 2:00pm Apr 10, 2018 2:00pm
Quoting Winston Reed
{quote} Arguing with libs is my hobby in the real world. None can stand up to arguments when it comes to freedom, individual rights and the US constitution.
My teachers are Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Dan Bongino, Billy Cunningham, Dennis Praeger and many others. I support many conservative institutions such as Hillsdale College, Conservative Review and Judicial Watch. I also support an article 5 convention of states to reign in the federal government and limit it's power.
  • #75,543
  • Apr 10, 2018 2:01pm Apr 10, 2018 2:01pm
Quoting nealpek
None can stand up to arguments when it comes to freedom, individual rights and the US constitution. Exactly, Because these things don't exist anymore, lol!!
It's sad that you believe that. They do exist and it's only by fighting for them that they will continue.
  • #75,544
  • Apr 10, 2018 2:04pm Apr 10, 2018 2:04pm
Quoting Winston Reed
{quote} The US is the big leagues. No one wants a war with us since no one is going to come out a winner. A war between the US and any major power such as China or Russia will end badly for all parties. This is about posturing. Neither Russia nor China want a real war. Russia wants to push it's weight around with smaller fry and China wants to continue its empire and rule it's people which it can't do unless it keeps them happy. China is full of many different factions and at anytime one or many of them could begin an uprising against the communist...
Russia is not ruled with fear any longer. Putin has done great things for the Russian people and the Russian economy. Russia is a very powerful military and they will stake their claim to Syria. Not because they want to challenge the USA or because they want to prove how tough they are, if Russia loses Syria, Saudi Arabia and Qatar will build an oil pipeline directly to Europe. This would destroy the Russian economy and probably put Putin and his family in a very bad place.

Of course Russia doesn't want a war, but they are in a corner and when you are in a corner and given no choice you come out fighting. If Trump is dumb enough, or controlled enough, to start war in Syria it will get very ugly very fast.
  • #75,545
  • Apr 10, 2018 2:06pm Apr 10, 2018 2:06pm
Quoting nealpek
Limbaugh and Hannity are your teachers? Enough said....
And you have also revealed who you are......
  • #75,546
  • Apr 10, 2018 2:11pm Apr 10, 2018 2:11pm
Perhaps one day we could civilly discuss some of the topics you raised. This obviously isn't the medium for this exchange. So I simply bid you peace!
  • #75,547
  • Apr 10, 2018 2:21pm Apr 10, 2018 2:21pm
Quoting unlv_tj
{quote} Russia is not ruled with fear any longer. Putin has done great things for the Russian people and the Russian economy. Russia is a very powerful military and they will stake their claim to Syria. Not because they want to challenge the USA or because they want to prove how tough they are, if Russia loses Syria, Saudi Arabia and Qatar will build an oil pipeline directly to Europe. This would destroy the Russian economy and probably put Putin and his family in a very bad place. Of course Russia doesn't want a war, but they are in a corner and...
Russia's economy is a fraction of the US economy and there is nothing great about it. I heard it is about the size of the Italian economy but I need to verify that. The economy is dictated by oligarch billionaires funneling money through their criminal enterprises into their own and Putin's pockets. This is so they can buy their yachts and sexually abuse children they have transported via the sex slave conduit. The US rightfully has sanctioned many of these criminal enterprises shutting off their access to funds world-wide. Their military is powerful because they can confiscate from the people what they want and they engage in whatever shady worldwide transactions that give them access to weapons. And it is a fact that people live in fear of government retaliation if they speak against it. Do you think Russians have freedom of speech? Speak against the Russian government and you will either be locked up in gulag or suffer a horrible death due to unexplained poisoning.

I am always astounded at how Americans glorify countries like Russia and put down their own country...America. I believe you would feel much differently if you actually were a citizen of Russia or China. And I don't mean an American living in those countries because they are treated very well to make it look like the government is so good.
  • #75,548
  • Apr 10, 2018 2:22pm Apr 10, 2018 2:22pm
Quoting nealpek
Perhaps one day we could civilly discuss some of the topics you raised. This obviously isn't the medium for this exchange. So I simply bid you peace!
Sorry but I didn't start it. But I'm glad to finish it. Bail if you like but it's rather cowardly.
  • #75,549
  • Apr 10, 2018 2:38pm Apr 10, 2018 2:38pm
Quoting nealpek
I didn't start anything either. I simply corrected your misunderstanding of the markets and the president role in it. It's ok, you just don't know what you don't know! It's all good....peace!
My understanding of the market is spot on. It is you who misunderstand. To say Trump has had no role in the recent gyrations of the market is merely your attempt to reject him as having any credible role in the US. I'm sure if it was Obama you would be singing a different tune.
  • #75,550
  • Apr 10, 2018 2:45pm Apr 10, 2018 2:45pm
Quoting Winston Reed
{quote} Russia's economy is a fraction of the US economy and there is nothing great about it. I heard it is about the size of the Italian economy but I need to verify that. The economy is dictated by oligarch billionaires funneling money through their criminal enterprises into their own and Putin's pockets. This is so they can buy their yachts and sexually abuse children they have transported via the sex slave conduit. The US rightfully has sanctioned many of these criminal enterprises shutting off their access to funds world-wide. Their military...
No, of course Russia does not have the 1A. But the USA is probably 10 years, maybe 2 years if Trump bumbles this and loses to the Democrat, from losing the 1A and then 2A.

No need to talk up our economy, it is a disaster. Unless we think we can borrow money forever to pay for our out of control spending, which obviously will not happen.

All in all, this is about Syria. Russia isn't going to back down. Russia will give us a fight we have never experienced. So we better just stay the hell out of Syria and focus on fixing our disaster of a country before the debt bubble pops.
  • #75,551
  • Apr 10, 2018 2:46pm Apr 10, 2018 2:46pm
Quoting Winston Reed
{quote} My understanding of the market is spot on. It is you who misunderstand. To say Trump has had no role in the recent gyrations of the market is merely your attempt to reject him as having any credible role in the US. I'm sure if it was Obama you would be singing a different tune.
Their is near perfect correlation between Trump economic policy announcements an market moves. The banks and financial institutions react with emotion like puppets. LOL.
  • #75,552
  • Apr 10, 2018 3:00pm Apr 10, 2018 3:00pm
Quoting unlv_tj
{quote} No, of course Russia does not have the 1A. But the USA is probably 10 years, maybe 2 years if Trump bumbles this and loses to the Democrat, from losing the 1A and then 2A. No need to talk up our economy, it is a disaster. Unless we think we can borrow money forever to pay for our out of control spending, which obviously will not happen. All in all, this is about Syria. Russia isn't going to back down. Russia will give us a fight we have never experienced. So we better just stay the hell out of Syria and focus on fixing our disaster of a...
The US economy is doing fine. To call it a disaster is drama and an exaggeration. Not unusual rhetoric for liberals. Our debt to GDP ratio is actually much lower than most countries'. The debt is a result of government overspending not business practices. Coorporations and business in general is doing just fine despite government budgetary indiscretions. However by freeing up business to conduct business to create profit will stoke the economies engine and help to produce more tax revenue that may help reduce the debt. One thing is for sure. The government is spending more than it takes in and this can only be stopped by not spending....LOL.

The US is not going to back down either especially with Trump in office. Thank God. If a real war ensued the US would also take it to the Russians like they've never experienced. We will not back out from Syria without a proper response to this poisoning of innocent citizens.

Our country is not a disaster. It is thriving despite the Democrats/liberals attempts to tear it down. Freedom is a powerful thing.
  • #75,553
  • Apr 10, 2018 3:10pm Apr 10, 2018 3:10pm
Quoting nealpek
Is this what Hannity taught you? Perfect example. You so desparately need your choice for leader to be right or for your team to win that you aren't able to fully distinguish fact from fiction. Butterflies are correlated with spring, but don't cause spring to appear! As long as your "team" wins, it doesn't really matter what game is being played! Peace.
Actually my own observation. Just go back an look. It's pretty obvious.

Yes I'm on the Trump team. I believe they are winning and this is why:
1. Reducing taxes for all Americans
2. Addressing the trade deficit head on with China
3. Not backing down to Russia like Obama and Hilary did.
4. Eliminating the healthcare insurance mandate through the tax reduction bill.
5. Addressing the illegal immigration problem head on even offering the dems amnesty for over 800K illegals which was rejected.
6. No wall no problem. National Guard to the border. BoooYahhh!!!!


DJIA close + 428.90.

Anybody need an airline ticket to move to another country?
  • #75,554
  • Apr 10, 2018 3:15pm Apr 10, 2018 3:15pm
Quoting Winston Reed
{quote} The US economy is doing fine. To call it a disaster is drama and an exaggeration. Not unusual rhetoric for liberals. Our debt to GDP ratio is actually much lower than most countries'. The debt is a result of government overspending not business practices. Coorporations and business in general is doing just fine despite government budgetary indiscretions. However by freeing up business to conduct business to create profit will stoke the economies engine and help to produce more tax revenue that may help reduce the debt. One thing is for sure....
The US economy is NOT doing fine. I think Trump has some great ideas, but most will be stopped by the Globalist owned congress. We had to borrow another $700+ billion this year just to pay our bills. That isn't doing fine, that is collapsing. Our debt to GDP is better than the bankrupt countries in western Europe, but to be "better" than countries being forced into austerity isn't a good measuring stick.

What do you mean the USA will take it to the Russians? Are you going to sign up to fight the Russians? This wouldn't be like Iraq, it would likely be the death total for the 15 years in Iraq in just a week fighting the Russians. It would be a disaster for us. And what the hell would be the point in us going through that hell? Just to get that "mean" Assad, while people FAR FAR FAR worse than him run other countries in FAR FAR FAR more evil ways?
  • #75,555
  • Apr 10, 2018 3:15pm Apr 10, 2018 3:15pm
Quoting Winston Reed
... when it comes to freedom, individual rights and the US constitution.
Which Trumpie has shown means nothing to him. Take off the blinders.
  • #75,556
  • Apr 10, 2018 3:20pm Apr 10, 2018 3:20pm
Quoting nealpek
If a real war ensued the US would also take it to the Russians like they've never experienced Perhaps you need to cancel your cable subscription, or start watching the nat geo channel. it's mucking up your mind! It's ok, I understand.....
I get my info from many sources. I even watch the libs channels to keep track of the BS they spew. Global warming is not one of my issues like NGC tries to put forth. MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, etc. etc. are all the same. Spewing hatred, false science and anti-Americanism. I deal in facts, science and the US constitution.

So my mind is quite clear. You should check out the cobwebs in your own head. By the way I'm quite at peace. It's why I can argue with individuals like you. So I don't need your wishes for my peace.
  • #75,557
  • Apr 10, 2018 3:22pm Apr 10, 2018 3:22pm
Quoting unlv_tj
{quote} .......Are you going to sign up to fight the Russians? ...
Maybe treat the injured. lol

Anyway what else can we expect from a believer:

"I (Private Bone Spurs) really believe I'd run in there even if I didn't have a weapon" Trump told governors at White House meeting on school safety.
  • #75,558
  • Apr 10, 2018 3:35pm Apr 10, 2018 3:35pm
Quoting unlv_tj
{quote} The US economy is NOT doing fine. I think Trump has some great ideas, but most will be stopped by the Globalist owned congress. We had to borrow another $700+ billion this year just to pay our bills. That isn't doing fine, that is collapsing. Our debt to GDP is better than the bankrupt countries in western Europe, but to be "better" than countries being forced into austerity isn't a good measuring stick. What do you mean the USA will take it to the Russians? Are you going to sign up to fight the Russians? This wouldn't be like Iraq, it would...
I would sign up tomorrow to fight for this country. Freedom has always come at great cost. Freedom will never be free. I exercise my 2nd amendment rights regularly and will do so if the need arises to fight against an overly powerful government whether it be ours or anothers'.

Trump is just over a year as President so I think his policies will have a very positive impact on our economy. I don't like the debt either but I am confident we'll over come this. I believe in the economy according to business not the government. government only takes. It produces nothing. Business is flourishing because of the tax cuts and I believe this will result in overall benefits not yet realized. As compared to communist countries the US benefits from the entrepreneurialship of it's citizens while communist countries benefit from the exploitation of their citizens. Taxation can be likened to this exploitation to some extent. If it becomes taxation without representation then we are back to the American Revolution. This is why I believe in the Convention of States according to the US Constitution. It is already rolling.
  • #75,559
  • Apr 10, 2018 3:39pm Apr 10, 2018 3:39pm
Quoting Winston Reed
{quote} I would sign up tomorrow to fight for this country. Freedom has always come at great cost. Freedom will never be free. I exercise my 2nd amendment rights regularly and will do so if the need arises to fight against an overly powerful government whether it be ours or anothers'. Trump is just over a year as President so I think his policies will have a very positive impact on our economy. I don't like the debt either but I am confident we'll over come this. I believe in the economy according to business not the government. government only...
I think Trump has some great ideas. One of the ideas was to stay the hell out of Syria, and he said so MANY times before he ran for president, and then on the campaign trail MANY times. If he gets us into Syria it is over for him. He will lose so much support, and that is if the war goes easy for us, and it certainly will not.
  • #75,560
  • Apr 10, 2018 3:47pm Apr 10, 2018 3:47pm
Quoting nealpek
1. for the rich 2. no manufacturing left 3 if you think we could war with russia, you need 2 fidget spinners! 4. 30-40 million people left without any health care. that's wonderful for them. 5 and 6. who is going to pick the oranges and do jobs americans don't want to do! 7.Your children are being taught by teachers making 300 a week who have to buy their own pencils. 8.most can't afford higher education and start out 50-75k in debt before first paycheck 9.congress removed milk budget for elementary school kids who can't afford to eat 10. Arm all...
We would have no problem taking on Russia. It would not be good for either side but we would not necessarily get the short end of the stick. Why do you think Russia would have the upper hand. When if comes to healthcare your fear mongering is just that. It is a false statement that Americans don't want to do those jobs. They've just never been given the opportunity to do so because we enslave foreign workers to do those jobs. I live in El Paso. TX and I am quiet familiar with teacher salaries. It amounts to quite a bit more than 300/week. The increase in college education is a direct result of Obama policies essentially giving colleges and universities a blank check with government funds. Hmmmm. I wonder if this has anything to do with the debt. Your fear mongering with elementary school kids not being able to eat unless the government provides "milk" for them in school is ludicrous. Why do you think everyone is so helpless and needs the government to provide their every need? You make a ridiculous statement regarding guns. No one not even the government will ever take ALL the guns away from law-abiding Americans not to mention the criminals who ignore the law. Yes lets penalize law abiding US citizens like me who own gun and rifles while the criminals laugh at us and can hardly wait for a mass disarming so they can take advantage.

You make ridiculous arguments. Logic prevails.
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