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  • #21
  • Apr 6, 2018 10:54am Apr 6, 2018 10:54am
Quoting renkotop
@Voldemar227: does ea expire?
does the ea expire or not???
  • #22
  • Apr 6, 2018 11:01am Apr 6, 2018 11:01am
Quoting renkotop
{quote} does the ea expire or not???
no, what's the Councilman's term ? Are you talking about ?
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  • #23
  • Apr 6, 2018 1:20pm Apr 6, 2018 1:20pm
USDJPY, starting lot 0.1, Martingale multiplier 2.0, Maximal Lots=0.8, H1. Test is from 2017.01.09 to date.

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  • #24
  • Apr 6, 2018 3:12pm Apr 6, 2018 3:12pm
not good, the drawdown is
Learn, a forex trader must, unlearn and relearn he will.
  • #25
  • Apr 6, 2018 9:16pm Apr 6, 2018 9:16pm
something you may want to know and consider:

the Lotto model and the Insurance model,

combine both and come up with a "Cash Flow" model

and diversify your trading and to make good use of your OPM.

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  • #26
  • Apr 7, 2018 10:52am Apr 7, 2018 10:52am
@Voldemar227: I made a lot of Tests in the past and result always is, that a grid/Martingale always blows up the Account.

I' ve a proposal from FF member "bgntrs and I want you to integrate the System from him in order not to blow up the Account anymore.

Proposal is attached.
Waiting for your Reply.

Thanks, renko
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  • #27
  • Apr 7, 2018 11:03am Apr 7, 2018 11:03am
Quoting renkotop
@Voldemar227: I made a lot of Tests in the past and result always is, that a grid/Martingale always blows up the Account. I' ve a proposal from FF member "bgntrs and I want you to integrate the System from him in order not to blow up the Account anymore. Proposal is attached. Waiting for your Reply. Thanks, renko {image}
It is very difficult to translate a PDF file, I do not understand what the speech is about.
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  • #28
  • Apr 7, 2018 11:10am Apr 7, 2018 11:10am
Quoting Voldemar227
{quote} It is very difficult to translate a PDF file, I do not understand what the speech is about.
It means if you are running into a certain amount of drawdown you should cut the "bad" order(s).
renko
  • #29
  • Apr 7, 2018 11:24am Apr 7, 2018 11:24am
Quoting renkotop
{quote} It means if you are running into a certain amount of drawdown you should cut the "bad" order(s). renko
How to shorten ?
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  • #30
  • Apr 7, 2018 11:34am Apr 7, 2018 11:34am
Quoting renkotop
{quote} It means if you are running into a certain amount of drawdown you should cut the "bad" order(s). renko
He seems to use Google translate from English to Russian to understand what was written.

Suggestion he is making is: (am copying and pasting the content).

In the image above, I have circled the biggest problem for us now in the downtrend. The trades
which are furthest away from the current market price. These are causing the biggest problem
because they are so many pips away from the market and most difficult to recover. These trades are
the ones we must target.
You may think that the latest martingale trades are the biggest problem because of their size.
However, they are much closer to the current market price so more often than not, the small trades
which were placed first are in fact in more individual DD and more difficult to recover. I have seen
this countless times over the past 2 years of playing around with martingales.
So the idea is that when the EA triggers recovery mode, for example, $-100, the EA begins to hedge
and first targets the first 5 trades. So the EA opens a hedge trade which is 3x the amount of the first 5
trades. So if the first 5 trades total 0.05, then the initial hedge trade will be 0.15. So in the above
chart, we will have a 0.15 SELL trade open when the recovery mode is activated.
HOWEVER, this is the most important part, the EA MUST CONTINUE opening BUY trades as normal in
the downtrend. Otherwise we will have a big gap of no trades and just be in a big loss waiting for
market to turn. No matter what happens, the market will eventually turn so we need to have trades
close to that turn.
The question now appears what happens if the market reverses as soon as the hedge is placed? The
answer to this is that the TP of the normal martingale trades takes into account the hedge trade too.
So this means the TP will be modified when the hedge trade is placed.
So whether the market continues to move downor reverse, we are in a ‘win win’ situation. It’s the
best of a bad situation. Targeting the first 5 trades only, means we don’t have to havea large margin
  • #31
  • Apr 7, 2018 11:39am Apr 7, 2018 11:39am
Quoting cdsaa
{quote} he seems to use google translate from english to russian to understand what was written. Suggestion he is making is: (am copying and pasting the content). In the image above, i have circled the biggest problem for us now in the downtrend. The trades which are furthest away from the current market price. These are causing the biggest problem because they are so many pips away from the market and most difficult to recover. These trades are the ones we must target. You may think that the latest martingale trades are the biggest problem because...
У нас есть 5 ордеров по 0,01 лоту и один сел лотом 0,05 рынок развернется.
Мы закроем все 5 бай ордеров но что мы будем делать с сел ордером лотом 0,05 ?
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  • #32
  • Apr 7, 2018 11:40am Apr 7, 2018 11:40am
Quoting Voldemar227
{quote} How to shorten ?

In simple terms.

when our initial order is BUY 0.01 and trend goes against us downtrend- martingale kicks in.

and now we have multiple levels of martingale opened.

While Martingale is running with opening BUY orders. after about -$50, we need to start another new order of about 3x (total of first 5 buy orders open -0.01*5 = 0.05) now open Sell order of 0.15 as the it is on downtrend. When the pips or amount equals to the loss on first 5 buy orders- close both buy & sell (0.01x5 BUY orders) and (0.15 sell order hedge order).


While Hedge starts with SELL order, we continue with BUY orders on usual martingale. We do not stop that. It could be now on level 4 or so.
  • #33
  • Apr 7, 2018 11:42am Apr 7, 2018 11:42am
Quoting Voldemar227
{quote} У нас есть 5 ордеров по 0,01 лоту и один сел лотом 0,05 рынок развернется. Мы закроем все 5 бай ордеров но...
We have to close both 5 buy orders (0.01) and 1 sell order (0.15) when both amounts equal.

- $50 +$50 or something like that
  • #34
  • Apr 7, 2018 11:44am Apr 7, 2018 11:44am
Quoting cdsaa
{quote} In simple terms. when our initial order is BUY 0.01 and trend goes against us downtrend- martingale kicks in. and now we have multiple levels of martingale opened. While Martingale is running with opening BUY orders. after about -$50, we need to start another new order of about 3x (total of first 5 buy orders open -0.01*5 = 0.05) now open Sell order of 0.15 as the it is on downtrend. When the pips or amount equals to the loss on first 5 buy orders- close both buy & sell (0.01x5 BUY orders) and (0.15 sell order hedge order). While Hedge starts...
Price drops we have 5 buy orders 5*0, 01 and -50$ we opened sell lot 0, 15, the price began to rise again what do we do ?
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  • #35
  • Apr 7, 2018 11:50am Apr 7, 2018 11:50am
Quoting Voldemar227
{quote} Price drops we have 5 buy orders 5*0, 01 and -50$ we opened sell lot 0, 15, the price began to rise again what do we do ?

INitial Martingale is still running and we are continuing to open BUY orders.

at what level will we be when we start opening SELL order.
  • #36
  • Apr 7, 2018 11:53am Apr 7, 2018 11:53am
Take a close look at the screenshot
In this situation, you need 500 points to the bottom to get 0 by drawdown is a green mark on the right
and with the growth of the red mark right through the 2000 points will be a huge disadvantage
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  • #37
  • Apr 7, 2018 11:58am Apr 7, 2018 11:58am
Quoting cdsaa
{quote} INitial Martingale is still running and we are continuing to open BUY orders. at what level will we be when we start opening SELL order.
Ok Look
0,10 lots Buy orders and 0.15 lots sell orders disaster
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  • #38
  • Apr 7, 2018 12:09pm Apr 7, 2018 12:09pm
Am trying to build excel to come up with formula


We cannot open SELL order so close 500 points. we need to see where we can start the hedge option start.

usual Martingale should null the new sell order. but if initial buy order 0.10 then we shouldnt be opening 0.15 it is too early.

In that pdf, that guy was talking about 200 pip movement- almost 2000points.
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  • #39
  • Apr 7, 2018 12:14pm Apr 7, 2018 12:14pm
Quoting cdsaa
Am trying to build excel to come up with formula We cannot open SELL order so close 500 points. we need to see where we can start the hedge option start. usual Martingale should null the new sell order. but if initial buy order 0.10 then we shouldnt be opening 0.15 it is too early. In that pdf, that guy was talking about 200 pip movement- almost 2000points. {file}
How's that for an idea ?
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alternate buy and sell ?
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  • #40
  • Apr 7, 2018 12:16pm Apr 7, 2018 12:16pm
I think we with You write Grail )))
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