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  • #721
  • Feb 27, 2018 3:00am Feb 27, 2018 3:00am
Long position on EURUSD
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  • #722
  • Feb 27, 2018 3:11am Feb 27, 2018 3:11am
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  • #723
  • Feb 27, 2018 5:18am Feb 27, 2018 5:18am
Quoting parisboy
Long position on EURUSD {image}
Have you reversed your trade now ?
  • #724
  • Feb 27, 2018 6:05am Feb 27, 2018 6:05am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Have you reversed your trade now ?
closed position at + 0,24
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  • #725
  • Feb 27, 2018 7:35am Feb 27, 2018 7:35am
Short position on EURUSD
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  • #726
  • Feb 28, 2018 12:32am Feb 28, 2018 12:32am
Quoting netjoker
{quote} pour l'euro : 1mn 32 - 40 128 - 79 256 - 157 15mn/5mn 32 - 156 128 - 312 256 - 625 30mn I don't know Same as the 15mn I think. 4H/2H/1H 32 - 625 128 - 1250 256 - 2500 daily 32 - 1875 128 - 3750 256 - 7500 look the map of parisboy {image}
can someone please give us the numbers used for the dax,1min,5/15min and 1hr/4hr and daily charts.
  • #727
  • Feb 28, 2018 2:48am Feb 28, 2018 2:48am
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  • #728
  • Edited 3:49am Feb 28, 2018 3:04am | Edited 3:49am
Quoting craig65
{quote} can someone please give us the numbers used for the dax,1min,5/15min and 1hr/4hr and daily charts.
Craig65

Everything has already been explained with numerous practical examples. You should read all the thread, and try to understand the methodology Because it is better to teach a man how to fish than to give him a fish.

Anyway presently DAX Price Action fluctuates within the "Fractal of Price "( Price Range) 0-10.000

Then its Main Octave is 10.000 / 8 = 1250

Using successive division by 2 Subharmonics are :

625
312,5
156,25
78,125
39,0625
19,53125
9,765625
4,8828125
2,44140625
1,220703125
  • #729
  • Feb 28, 2018 3:10am Feb 28, 2018 3:10am
EURUSD 1 minute
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  • #730
  • Feb 28, 2018 3:25am Feb 28, 2018 3:25am
EURUSD 5 minutes
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  • #731
  • Feb 28, 2018 3:25am Feb 28, 2018 3:25am
EURUSD 1 month 30 minutes
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  • #732
  • Edited 3:51am Feb 28, 2018 3:38am | Edited 3:51am
EURUSD 3 Months 60 minutes (1 H)
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  • #733
  • Feb 28, 2018 3:49am Feb 28, 2018 3:49am
EURUSD 6 Months 120 minutes (2 H)

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  • #734
  • Edited 6:04am Feb 28, 2018 5:50am | Edited 6:04am
Quoting OAPDave
When you use the Envelope Indicator it rounds numbers up so my effort is 256avg = 1.25 128avg = 0.62 32avg =0.31 Sorry, but still cannot do without my grid {image}
OAPDave

Rounding the Octave / Vibration ie the subharmonics used for the Envelope parameters is not a problem - it is secondary - means come AFTER the mastery of the general process and its implementation.

Most of the time the difference is meaningless for analysis and has minimal effect tending to zero for trading.
  • #735
  • Feb 28, 2018 5:51am Feb 28, 2018 5:51am
Quoting OAPDave
When you use the Envelope Indicator it rounds numbers up so my effort is 256avg = 1.25 128avg = 0.62 32avg =0.31 Sorry, but still cannot do without my grid {image}
try ALSO to DOUBLE the parameters of your grid
  • #736
  • Feb 28, 2018 6:17am Feb 28, 2018 6:17am
Quoting OAPDave
To force the chart shift on a 60min I after do either ! {image} {image}

OAPDave

note that when your are in a Range, (Trend is Neutral , Flat) Envelopes Limits coincide more or less with Horizontal Support & Resistance Lines (SRL)
  • #737
  • Edited 7:42am Feb 28, 2018 7:04am | Edited 7:42am
Quoting OAPDave
Think I am a getting a little carried away now ? {image}
OAPDave

it is very good that you practice and test the system and methodology by yourself. It is the best way to learn.

Always glad to help and answer your questions.
  • #738
  • Feb 28, 2018 7:51am Feb 28, 2018 7:51am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} May not be the brightest button but at least I am keeping you on your toes, thanks for your patience when I go off track a little but just spent that long with Murrey its become in grained with anything I look at
OAPDave

No problem. Me too I always use the Law of Vibration and the Octave and its harmonics

BUT :
For anyone with an original Gann course, if they will turn to the first page of the section titled The Basis of My Forecasting Method

, looking at line 10 from the bottom; they will read the following quote.

"There are 3 kinds of angles-the vertical, the horizontal, and the diagonal, which we use for measuring time and price movements."

Today every usage called "Gann angles" uses "diagonal angles" only.

Yet the Master says we must use all 3 angles-

the vertical angle,
the horizontal angle,
the diagonal Angle.

Definitely not the last and least important, the diagonal angle alone.

I am amazed practically nobody seems to have noticed his comprehensive statement about them in his courses.

The conclusion has to be that there's a lot more to Gann's use of angles than today's users ever dreamed of.

You will note that "Murrey" and followers use ONLY the " Horizontal" Angle (Line)
  • #739
  • Edited Mar 1, 2018 5:55am Feb 28, 2018 8:37am | Edited Mar 1, 2018 5:55am
Quoting OAPDave
To be fair I think Murrey does, its the MT4 versions that do not {image} {image}
To be fair "Murrey" does not !

Its sofware shows Angles - vertical, and diagonal.

But Murrey never uses them for trading .... because Murrey does not trade, Murrey only "talks about trading"

In the 2 explanations papers on Murrey's MML's found on the web and written by anonymous people that I have posted on this thread for download they also show Vertical and Diagonal Lines or Angles.

But nobody uses them.

Murrey talks at lengths of "his" MML's Murrey Math's Lines and that all.

Coders and developpers build EA about Murrey's MML's used as Support and Resistance lines.

But who shows how to use them to trade ?
  • #740
  • Feb 28, 2018 10:54am Feb 28, 2018 10:54am
I like analyze newborn corporations very much : we know the IPO - we have all the data.

Let's consider an unknown US start-up : FACEBOOK !

Note that introduction price was rounded at 37.5 = 3 x 12,5 within the "Fractal of Price" 0-100 whose Octave is 100 / 8 = 12.5

The IPO day you have already some information :

a) Price Action will fluctuate within the Fractal of Price 0-100 ( possible extension to 125)
b) Octave is 100 / 8 = 12,5
c) Octave subharmonics are 6,25, 3,125, 1, 5625, 0,78125, 0,390625 etc
d) Price Action can go to zero - Risk is 37,5
e) Price Action can go 100 - maximum potential profit is (100-37,5) / 37,5 = 62,5 / 37,5 = + 166%
f) If Fractal of Price is extended to 125 - maximum potential profit is (125-37,5) / 37,5 =87,5 / 37,5 = + 233 %
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