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  • #85,401
  • Jan 10, 2018 11:00am Jan 10, 2018 11:00am
Quoting shum
real trader dont have time to spend it on non sens discussions, every person have his vision and positions about trading. real trader make money and dont need to explain or to demonstrate somthing.. i see some peoples here have inaf time to coment here, when they trade? i dont understand.. if you make money, will you spend your time to stay on the forum? back to the thread..some trades take. {image} {image} {image}
so... all 3 pairs hit tp..
180 pips on 3 pairs..
done for half of week..
In the same time some "experts"..guru of PA.... sayd that sl is to big, tp to small,
or..
Quoting catalin_eros
{quote} I think he is inexperienced, that's all, as we all have been at one point. He will be better if he struggles to learn and doesn't give up. I say 'inexperienced' because although he joined FF in 2011, he seems to rely solely on indicators/oscilators, as he puts all the weight on TDi, and even Tekkies would agree with me that this is not the way to do it, as he uses PA in his trading, too.

and bla bla... PA is PA, suples dimonds , sellers..buyers.....
well a lot of bulshit what have nothing to do with this thread...
so this was just a simple exemple why traders who come here for learn this system, dont need to read and listen those experts...
Please go to first post, learn the rules and try to trade this system for cople of months in demo account.. its work 100% like other systems here in ff, but it will work just for traders who are feel and understand it,and who understand that can trade it, and who folow the rules.. without right rules system will not work, like other systems to..
i try to blow my demo account with 30% risk on the trade with this system...and i cant..its imposible.
For PA guru, please open your thread and teach other traders to gamble with your PA...but i sugest you to not waste your time.. this PA has nothing to do with real markets, real banks levels and etc.. you dont need to prove me aniyhing, prove yourself that you can yearn good money from your PA.

for others i repeat system work, but not for all. We all are different.. and systems are different.. dont tray to trade what you dont understand, and dont tray to teach other people that what understand you its true, and what you dont understand its false..
cheers.
one more..
stop to trade cross pairs.. here exist list of what pairs author was trading.
  • #85,402
  • Jan 10, 2018 12:01pm Jan 10, 2018 12:01pm
Quoting shum
{quote} so... all 3 pairs hit tp.. 180 pips on 3 pairs.. done for half of week.. In the same time some "experts"..guru of PA.... sayd that sl is to big, tp to small, or.. {quote} and bla bla... PA is PA, suples dimonds , sellers..buyers..... well a lot of bulshit what have nothing to do with this thread... so this was just a simple exemple why traders who come here for learn this system, dont need to read and listen those experts... Please go to first post, learn the rules and try to trade this system for cople of months in demo account.. its work...
Oops! It looks I've made an enemy. It was about time.

Look, man, I was not trying to hurt your feelings. I am glad that you manage to make money, I mean demo money, with the original method. If you take a look at my old posts, you can see that I was also using the original method, alongside guppies method, which I learned from SJ. But I feel more comfortable making use of PA, like so many great traders on this forum. Let me know if, in one year, you will also be trading the same method, and with a live account. because there is a huge difference between trying a system with real money and trying a system with demo money.

You got upset because i quoted a post of yours that turned out a loser, because you sold into very strong support. You based your analysis on TDI alone. That is wrong. Next time you sell into support, you might be lucky, and the support might break, but that does not mean it is right to trade into a strong S/R, only because on indicator says so. I quoted your post in order to make others see what was wrong with it. But since I consider myself a mediocre trader, I might be wrong and you might be correct: it is the best thing to sell into a strong support if the indicators tells you to, the best of the best!

Since I am here to learn more about trading from good traders, I think the above subject is closed for me. Good luck and many green pips to you!
  • #85,403
  • Jan 10, 2018 12:06pm Jan 10, 2018 12:06pm
Quoting Divergence
Well I tried to help but I might be wasting my time and energy good luck to you all
I do not normally trade M5, and I did not plan on trading in the beginning of January, but I was bored while traveling today with some personal business, and I had to kill the time on the road. So I took a look at M5 charts. I entered with very small lots (since I've never traded S/D before), based on your S/D technique. I entered based on what you explained to me via PM, and it worked out. 124 pips on EU, which helped me with the travel expenses. So don't tell me that you are wasting your time here, because you are not. And know that I am one of the worst M5 traders in the World, that is why I trade D1 on Strat's thread, and I never bother trading the LTFs there.

P.S.: If Tekkies made sure you closed the door behind you, I made sure I put my foot in front of the door, to prevent it from closing.
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  • #85,404
  • Jan 10, 2018 12:34pm Jan 10, 2018 12:34pm
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} it much easier than telling people look, big candle, small candle , and bigger candle...right?
It sure is, Emm. It makes me look smart, too. If you say big candle, I do not know exactly what it looks like. But if you tell me BEEB, for example, I know with my eyes closed what you see on the chart.
  • #85,405
  • Edited 12:47pm Jan 10, 2018 12:37pm | Edited 12:47pm
Quoting alihay
{quote} hi I have problem in Exit Points, and thank for u if guide me by chart. thank u

Hi,

There are different ways to manage trade Exits.

Every Entry must have 2 Exits (minimum)

Exits #1 is your initial Stop Loss SL

Exit #2 is your Target or Take Profit TP

If I am trading the reversals, I would normally place my SL above the swing high for Sell and below the swing low for Buy.
However, if I am trading after the reversal, i.e. continuation , I will place my initial SL using the previous 2 bars high (Sell) or 2 bars low (Buy)

The trade exit management is:

1) Move SL to Breakeven as soon as price move in favour by for e.g. 25pips. You can change this according to the H4 volatility of the pair.

2) Use Trailing Stop, i.e. when the price move +25pips, you move your trailing SL to 25pips from the market.

See below example using GJ trades this week. This is for Single Entry/Single Exit SE/SE trades .

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Note: there are different ways to manage trade exits.
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #85,406
  • Jan 10, 2018 1:00pm Jan 10, 2018 1:00pm
Quoting catalin_eros
{quote} I do not normally trade M5, and I did not plan on trading in the beginning of January, but I was bored while traveling today with some personal business, and I had to kill the time on the road. So I took a look at M5 charts. I entered with very small lots (since I've never traded S/D before), based on your S/D technique. I entered based on what you explained to me via PM, and it worked out. 124 pips on EU, which helped me with the travel expenses. So don't tell me that you are wasting your time here, because you are not. And know...
I see only one of each:
BUOB
BUEB
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #85,407
  • Jan 10, 2018 1:02pm Jan 10, 2018 1:02pm
Quoting catalin_eros
{quote} It sure is, Emm. It makes me look smart, too. If you say big candle, I do not know exactly what it looks like. But if you tell me BEEB, for example, I know with my eyes closed what you see on the chart.

if only when MT4 and MT5 can talk, then the visually impaired can also trade via voice input...
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #85,408
  • Jan 10, 2018 1:12pm Jan 10, 2018 1:12pm
Quoting dmlp14
{quote} Hi Em! Synergy Pro TDI Green line has more rounded (tilted) angles in comparison with the standard TDI RT. Synergy Pro TDI gives some sort of statistical advantage? Or is it just a personal visual preference?

Neither have any statistical advantage. They are coded differently therefore we must forward test both in realtime live market.

I develop my trading systems using one or the other, rules are different based on what you see how the TDI responds to the price action.

If you want to trade like Big E' post#1, then use the TDI Red Green in Post#25.

If you are conservative trader and want to use the PAC, then use the TDI Realtime with Pro setting. You stay in the trade for most part of the 'trend'.

After more then 5 years , I can trade without any TDI. You need at least 3 to 5 years of trading experience to make this decision to drop the TDI.

Spend more time working on your Money Management strategy and also develop the Mental fitness (conditioning) for trading.
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #85,409
  • Jan 10, 2018 1:38pm Jan 10, 2018 1:38pm
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} Hi, There are different ways to manage trade Exits. Every Entry must have 2 Exits (minimum) Exits #1 is your initial Stop Loss SL Exit #2 is your Target or Take Profit TP If I am trading the reversals, I would normally place my SL above the swing high for Sell and below the swing low for Buy. However, if I am trading after the reversal, i.e. continuation , I will place my initial SL using the previous 2 bars high (Sell) or 2 bars low (Buy) The trade exit management is: 1) Move SL to Breakeven as soon as price move in favour by for e.g. 25pips....
Thumbs up. Comes out as down on a mobile phone as can't press the edge correctly.
  • #85,410
  • Edited 2:17pm Jan 10, 2018 2:06pm | Edited 2:17pm
Quoting catalin_eros
{quote} Oops! It looks I've made an enemy. It was about time. Look, man, I was not trying to hurt your feelings. I am glad that you manage to make money, I mean demo money, with the original method. If you take a look at my old posts, you can see that I was also using the original method, alongside guppies method, which I learned from SJ. But I feel more comfortable making use of PA, like so many great traders on this forum. Let me know if, in one year, you will also be trading the same method, and with a live account. because there is...

..omg, you are not a girl no? so about what feelings hurt you speak man? ... calm down you didnt tuch me at all, but i am not sure about other traders around here, who try to lern this system.
i just give a exemple in real time, (with trades and enteres, but even after tp hit, you continue to say that there was a strong support, well that support didnt resist to the TDI signal, what a shame no?) that you guys are not right, speaking about other thinks here, trying to help.. Like i sayd, open your thread and there you can say what ever you whant, even that TMS dont work, that PA is gral, clean charts are the best, and so on.. its up to you.
Here we speak about 3-4 indicators and a system with rules based on them. I so that you sayd you was trading in past this system, then you change your trading skils and styles.... what can i say, bravo! if its work for you,it is comfortable, and its make for you good money, what can be better?..you done , you are in the game.
But why you tray to input all this staf here? it have no sense...this was TMS thread from the begin, and must to remain the same TMS system until the end. A lot of peoples come here and take from this system what they need, and move on..every of them, include you and me, everyone has his own way.. You say that you feel comfortable with using of PA, so you repeat my words from mesage above, everybody trade what feel better. Nobody forced you to stop trading PA and move to TMS coz TMS is real graal.. isn it? So then.... why you doing here what you doing? its a question for you, Divergence and other traders who come here with other ideas?
Do you realize that you confuze newbe traders and other peoples? no? than..you must to think about it... nobody need your help until it will not ask.

About my trading skils? and real account? you mised some of my posts, you will fiend the answer there if you will need, the fact is, that i have 2 systems, based on PA and clean charts, trading of banks levels.. unfortunatly one of the systems has her rights reserved, and i cant speak about it here, or anywhere else.. but is to far from what you know about PA for sure. The other fact is i dont like to trade it, even if it have signals with 80-140% reliability.. why? its the same..no comfort there, and its take a lot of time to stay in front of workstation.
And i dont know what you doing all the day, meaby you go at work, but i left my job for trading in 2013, and i am steel in this bussines..this is my work and live..
Ps.. one of my pasport is romanian too.
  • #85,411
  • Jan 10, 2018 2:18pm Jan 10, 2018 2:18pm
[quote=shum;10658039]{quote} so... all 3 pairs hit tp.. 180 pips on 3 pairs.. done for half of week.. In the same time some "experts"..guru of PA.... sayd that sl is to big, tp to small, or.. {quote} and bla bla... PA is PA, suples dimonds , sellers..buyers..... well a lot of bulshit what have nothing to do with this thread
Hi Shum

Well done, the market gave you some pips this week. I wouldn’t discount PA to quickly because what the market gives you, it will take off your next time if you ingnore PA. You will find some weeks the TDI agrees with PA when a strong move occurs, the next week the lagging TDI will burn you.

Why do you think almost no traders out there put there hand up when asked by Divergence, I am not aware of any profitable traders using Big E,s template. There are however lots of profitable traders who started here including myself who now trade with there own systems.
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  • #85,412
  • Jan 10, 2018 2:34pm Jan 10, 2018 2:34pm
[quote=RickM;10658653]
You said it Rick.
"There are however lots of profitable traders who started here including myself who now trade with there own systems."

Left a small part out:
They don't come back and post about the system they are using. Neither do they degrade other member's that do follow this method.
  • #85,413
  • Jan 10, 2018 2:36pm Jan 10, 2018 2:36pm
Quoting RickM
Quoting shum
{quote} so... all 3 pairs hit tp.. 180 pips on 3 pairs.. done for half of week.. In the same time some "experts"..guru of PA.... sayd that sl is to big, tp to small, or.. {quote} and bla bla... PA is PA, suples dimonds , sellers..buyers..... well a lot of bulshit what have nothing to do with this thread Hi Shum Well done, the market gave you some pips this week. I wouldn’t discount PA to quickly because what the market gives you, it will take off your next time if you ingnore PA. You will find some weeks the TDI agrees with
...
well meaby its take all the pips back from you..i dont know, but sure not from me, i am steel make pips on demo with this system(i trade demo like real, with the same feelings, coz i whant to use it on real, and i look sireosly on it, how its work), soon i will go with it on real..
the answers on all you say are in my last 3-4 posts. who is a real trader and what they doing or not doing.. who trade, and what they need from this system.

Pa in this thread is second..
no metter how good is PA if tdi dont give you the signal...
so the important think on first place here is tdi..then PA.
  • #85,414
  • Jan 10, 2018 2:38pm Jan 10, 2018 2:38pm
Trading Made Simple does work.

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Don't say I am just lucky. Have posted to many chart's in the past.
  • #85,415
  • Jan 10, 2018 3:04pm Jan 10, 2018 3:04pm
Quoting Tekkies
Trading Made Simple does work. {image} Don't say I am just lucky. Have posted to many chart's in the past.
Hi Tekkies

Yes but honestly, my grandmother could see the Jpy gaining in strength over the past couple of days. The PA was clearly forcing the price down and the TDI just followed. I believe the TDI is only great on a strong day move where on H4, we see a good bounce trade. Try using the TDI on a tight ranging market, it will fail.

And how do we know it is a ranging market.
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  • #85,416
  • Jan 10, 2018 3:13pm Jan 10, 2018 3:13pm
Sorry this is to funny not to post shum said this but i left my job for trading in 2013, and i am steel in this bussines.. then he said this i am steel make pips on demo with this system(i trade demo like real, so he leaves his job to trade demo for 4 yrs HILARIOUS Now I am done as I slam door in tekkies face hahaha
  • #85,417
  • Edited 4:10pm Jan 10, 2018 3:30pm | Edited 4:10pm
Quoting RickM
{quote} Hi Tekkies Yes but honestly, my grandmother could see the Jpy gaining in strength over the past couple of days. The PA was clearly forcing the price down and the TDI just followed. I believe the TDI is only great on a strong day move where on H4, we see a good bounce trade. Try using the TDI on a tight ranging market, it will fail. And how do we know it is a ranging market.
What? PA forcing price down. Since when does PA tell price what to do. Price is boss. PA is just the reaction of what Price does.

Tight ranging market? Like this one?
Few rules come to mind
- are the candles small
- short and long term trend
- are the wick's small
Basic babypip's stuff
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edit:
GBPUSD H4 has an sell order open. That is based on post#647
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Know post#647 and you can pick which trade's to place where and when. Have you read TDI Cross.pdf? Before this spiral down into a other senseless fight, I can not agree with you and that's leave it at this point and keep the peace.
  • #85,418
  • Jan 10, 2018 3:49pm Jan 10, 2018 3:49pm
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} I see only one of each: BUOB BUEB
You are wrong this time Emm. I was very attentive to the highs of the candles, before I made that post. Take a look at the attached image. Although it is a small difference, like 2 pips, the definition is the same, and they are both BUOBs. Do not disagree with me on this one, Emm, or I will ask you to start your own thread.
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  • #85,419
  • Jan 10, 2018 5:06pm Jan 10, 2018 5:06pm
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} What? PA forcing price down. Since when does PA tell price what to do. Price is boss. PA is just the reaction of what Price does. Tight ranging market? Like this one? Few rules come to mind - are the candles small - short and long term trend - are the wick's small Basic babypip's stuff {image}
Price and Price Action is the same thing.
We are supposed to be talking about H4 trading as per Big E rules where TDI is king.
But if you want to show trading in H1, we had better understand the rules of price action movement around news events, big round numbers and major resistance levels because the TDI is blind to these.
No one is saying we can’t make money trading on H4 crosses, if the market type is in trend mode.
Only the best traders with PA skills can earn REGULAR money trading H1 charts with TDI crosses.
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  • #85,420
  • Jan 10, 2018 5:11pm Jan 10, 2018 5:11pm
Have you read TDI Cross.pdf? Before this spiral down into a other senseless fight, I can not agree with you and that's leave it at this point and keep the peace.[/quote]

Good trading Tekkies, you can trade this way.
Just a pity there’s no one else to stick the fork into my back
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