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  • #141
  • Dec 25, 2017 2:36pm Dec 25, 2017 2:36pm
Interesting idea.

What do we need up front. Just open a TE or post it somewhere? Post 1 mentions snapshot of beginning balance...again to be posted or just retained for reference?
  • #142
  • Edited 2:56pm Dec 25, 2017 2:41pm | Edited 2:56pm
u R a pompous asshole + much More = all u had 2 do ist "shut ur fukkin PM " but 4sure u knew that
da n0o0b + $hit_Disturber
  • #143
  • Dec 25, 2017 2:55pm Dec 25, 2017 2:55pm
Quoting spyderman
Interesting idea. What do we need up front. Just open a TE or post it somewhere? Post 1 mentions snapshot of beginning balance...again to be posted or just retained for reference?
i would guess that if the goal is to survive 2018, a day to day display would not be a must. ( unless u opt for it).
since many showed interest to virtually open a no-deposit needed bonus account of sub-100$, in face of that balance matters little, really.

chances are that there will be a few maxed out leverage lucky run-ups, even more not-so-lucky maxed out blown out within a month or so...and a few more serious, though boring TEs that will only grow maybe 0-10% a month...

stone me, but those who can only open/trade sub-100$ account (and with few 3rd world country exceptions even sub-1000$) sort of straight equal to the verbal diarrhea group...simple if they would be good traders they should have some capital at hand, that can be used with longer term money management in mind.
we all entitled to some opinion, and that is mine.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #144
  • Dec 25, 2017 4:07pm Dec 25, 2017 4:07pm
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote}... balance matters little, really. chances are that there will be a few maxed out leverage lucky run-ups, even more not-so-lucky maxed out blown out within a month or so...and a few more serious, though boring TEs that will only grow maybe 0-10% a month...
You drew my attention to the live annual standings at FF. Based on what I have saw there, I have made simple calculations, which might not be correct. But take them as an educated guess only? The ratio of those who survive a year is around 0.001%. Below 0.001%, actually. That is a thousand of a percentage. There will be no lucky guys from the low balance traders. No one will survive a full year, if there is an absence of skills - there will be no survivors. Luck can work in their favour for a month or two. Maybe even three. That is it...

So, do not worry. At the end, it is only our own choices, who determine our destiny.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #145
  • Dec 25, 2017 4:26pm Dec 25, 2017 4:26pm
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} You drew my attention to the live annual standings at FF. Based on what I have saw there, I have made simple calculations, which might not be correct. But take them as an educated guess only? The ratio of those who survive a year is around 0.001%. Below 0.001%, actually. That is a thousand of a percentage. There will be no lucky guys from the low balance traders. No one will survive a full year, if there is an absence of skills - there will be no survivors. Luck can work in their favour for a month or two. Maybe even three. That is it......

  1. With Trade Explorers:
  2. 13,534

this is however not showing private TEs, and not separate demo and live TEs, and most importantly ignore the numbers of failed and removed TEs...
but i would still like to think it is closer to 0.1% of those survive for 1 year+.

but is that really a bad number?
maybe not so.
take an example,
running.
everyone can run. virtually. same as 'trading'. pushing buy/sell is not that difficult, right? neither running, from usually 2yrs old on, all can do.
some can run just faster, some slower. lets ignore that, same as not the gains matter here, but the survival, longevity.
so, to be easier to compare take something that needs longevity...
running marathon.
can/do more than 0.001% of the full marathon?
same apply to many other activities.
why would the survival rate in trading have to be so different?

there is always, always another trade!!
  • #146
  • Dec 25, 2017 10:12pm Dec 25, 2017 10:12pm
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote} but i would still like to think it is closer to 0.1% of those survive for 1 year+. but is that really a bad number? maybe not so. take an example, running. everyone can run. virtually. same as 'trading'.
Exactly. I was also thinking of something in between 0.10% and 0.01%. Whatever the %, it is extremely low.

And trading is like running. But they want to sprint the marathon distance. Those who do not sprint survive...
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #147
  • Dec 25, 2017 10:22pm Dec 25, 2017 10:22pm
oh boy.. this "year" its gona be "interesting" THATS FOR SURE !!!

EDIT: i can see already lots of people that are "monthly" traders taking like 4 trades in the whole year.. and "survive" lol
  • #148
  • Dec 25, 2017 11:14pm Dec 25, 2017 11:14pm
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  • #149
  • Dec 25, 2017 11:36pm Dec 25, 2017 11:36pm
Quoting havo
oh boy.. this "year" its gona be "interesting" THATS FOR SURE !!! EDIT: i can see already lots of people that are "monthly" traders taking like 4 trades in the whole year.. and "survive" lol
It won't be monthly, but price will have to move a certain for me to get involved. If it takes a month, so be it!
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #150
  • Dec 26, 2017 4:12am Dec 26, 2017 4:12am
Quoting MoneyZilla
Added in the rules a new rule. Accounts from Gainsy, Fort Financial, WelTrade are not allowed. Will update the disallowed brokers list with more street dog branded brokers, like these scammers (for me).
Please do.
I can't wait to see the list of the disallowed brokers.
Thanks in advance
Trade to trade well
  • #151
  • Dec 26, 2017 4:57am Dec 26, 2017 4:57am
Time ago we had other thread with same challenge. What is the real goal of this challenge? Try losers let to be it. Make a list of profitable traders for offer some business later?
Try don't lose pants never...
  • #152
  • Edited 7:05am Dec 26, 2017 6:38am | Edited 7:05am
sume Mfukkers R really good in photoshoppin etc2 =
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  • #153
  • Dec 26, 2017 9:44am Dec 26, 2017 9:44am
Quoting MoneyZilla
Any LIVE account sizes you can afford are most welcomed. I would suggest you to try the challenge in a cent account.
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It appears a Cent account can not be made public.
Let me know if any succeeds at that.
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Happy 2018
L.L.L.T
  • #154
  • Dec 26, 2017 10:17am Dec 26, 2017 10:17am
Quoting KayStreet
{quote} ____ It appears a Cent account can not be made public. Let me know if any succeeds at that. ____ Happy 2018
I have asked FF about the cent option, but no reply on the matter.

All cents might need to use fxblue.com, if FF remains silent... Lets see what will happen after NY. If there is no cent available I will do one regural with FF TE and one or more cents with fxblue, but only to show you the potential or turtle trading in a cent. Some call it here monthly trading... using with hundreds of trades per month. Maybe even thousands.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #155
  • Dec 26, 2017 10:19am Dec 26, 2017 10:19am
Hello @MoneyZilla,
I'd like to be part of this experiment as well... how do I join the VDM train?
  • #156
  • Dec 26, 2017 10:21am Dec 26, 2017 10:21am
let the VD trading championship begin
  • #157
  • Dec 26, 2017 10:24am Dec 26, 2017 10:24am
Quoting braintheboss
What is the real goal of this challenge?
This tread is the purgatory of the agressive guys with big mouths. You see someone anywhere on FF? Send the unlucky fella here. Lets see if his/her talks matches his/her trading skills. I bet the chance for that to happen is less than 0.01%. Statistics says so.
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Try losers let to be it. Make a list of profitable traders for offer some business later?
I do not know about that.

My personal biggest worry is how to build up my own trades, so the guys interested in how it is done, will just suck it from the smelly end... I am responsible only for myself.

Quoting TakeUrPills
Hello @MoneyZilla, I'd like to be part of this experiment as well... how do I join the VDM train?
Just open a TE (preferably) and/or a fxble.com account if you shall trade on a live cent and post it here.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #158
  • Dec 26, 2017 10:30am Dec 26, 2017 10:30am
Quoting KayStreet
{quote} ____ It appears a Cent account can not be made public. Let me know if any succeeds at that. ____ Happy 2018
there used to be OK to attach cents...
as visible some still..
like this one from Exness
https://www.forexfactory.com/yaphets#acct.69-tab.report

  1. USD
  2. Micro (1K)
  3. 1000:1

or this one from XM: ( last sync only 35 days ago, traded this month!)
https://www.forexfactory.com/keninve....91-tab.report

  1. USD
  2. Micro (1K)
  3. 888:1

are you sure it is impossible to attach a cent account?

there is always, always another trade!!
  • #159
  • Dec 26, 2017 11:18am Dec 26, 2017 11:18am
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote}..are you sure it is impossible to attach a cent account?
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Not sure.
Got it ready but can only be visible to me.
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L.L.L.T
  • #160
  • Edited 12:24pm Dec 26, 2017 11:26am | Edited 12:24pm
I'm not sure how to link my TE here

this is the link

Edit: I just learned to show the TE in my post signature
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