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  • #101
  • Nov 16, 2017 7:58am Nov 16, 2017 7:58am
Quoting alphaomega
... in my automatic logs!...

Hello, alphaomega!


Could say or maybe share it here what tool do you use for creating auto logs?
  • #102
  • Nov 16, 2017 8:00am Nov 16, 2017 8:00am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} If no one knows what will happen next is that not by definition random? Non random is that we know what time the sun will rise every day. Random would be just the opposite. Now there are forces that pull and push on markets, but how hard they pull and push is completely unknown, hence, random.
That is why i separate the two concepts . Just because we donīt know , that doesnīt make it random ...
  • #103
  • Nov 16, 2017 8:20am Nov 16, 2017 8:20am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} If no one knows what will happen next is that not by definition random? Non random is that we know what time the sun will rise every day. Random would be just the opposite. Now there are forces that pull and push on markets, but how hard they pull and push is completely unknown, hence, random.
Using your definition of predictability, the sun rise/sunset. The sun rises at 7:20 am and sets at 5:04 pm every day so I should be able to see the sun during those times. That is predictable.

Can you predictably guess which days in December 2018 you will not be able to see the sun at all? Or days it will be partly cloudy?

That is the market. Predictable, but not predictable. Probability trading is what separates the winners from the losers.
Ecclesiastes 1:9
  • #104
  • Nov 16, 2017 8:43am Nov 16, 2017 8:43am
Quoting Zemanel
{quote} That is why i separate the two concepts . Just because we donīt know , that doesnīt make it random ...
Except that we do. Take as much data on the daily hloc on the Euro and just run a frequency distribution on days closing up vs. days closing down. It is very near 50%. Very near a coin flip. That is why fundamentals are important. Something else to consider is that trends are made of just a very few days in the trading year, most days are sideways action.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #105
  • Nov 16, 2017 8:43am Nov 16, 2017 8:43am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} If no one knows what will happen next is that not by definition random? Non random is that we know what time the sun will rise every day. Random would be just the opposite. Now there are forces that pull and push on markets, but how hard they pull and push is completely unknown, hence, random.
I agree. If you claim the market is not random then you somehow know of the forces at work that determine what will happen next. If not, you might be successfully trading a random market until your system stops working when the law of large numbers kick in.
  • #106
  • Nov 16, 2017 8:45am Nov 16, 2017 8:45am
Quoting newbegger
{quote} Using your definition of predictability, the sun rise/sunset. The sun rises at 7:20 am and sets at 5:04 pm every day so I should be able to see the sun during those times. That is predictable. Can you predictably guess which days in December 2018 you will not be able to see the sun at all? Or days it will be partly cloudy? That is the market. Predictable, but not predictable. Probability trading is what separates the winners from the losers.
And yet you can still tell day from night. Therefore, seeing the sun itself is not necessary as you can see it's obvious effects, and those effects are predictable as long as the earth maintains it's orbit. When you speak of cloudy days, you are only speaking of variables in the randomness that make it appear nonrandom.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #107
  • Nov 16, 2017 8:53am Nov 16, 2017 8:53am
Quoting alphaomega
Some people will get the message. Others will not.
Trading is a business for the GangBanksters. Anyone who thinks a business can be ran randomly is nothing, but a complete, round shaped fool.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #108
  • Nov 16, 2017 10:59am Nov 16, 2017 10:59am
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  • #109
  • Nov 16, 2017 11:07am Nov 16, 2017 11:07am
Way to go Alpha!!
There HAS got to be some rules on how the charts behave within reason, just like in life. We adhere and are governed by rules, and there is no reason
why the charts should not be the same. After all, they are only a representation of peoples emotions and views of the market.
  • #110
  • Edited 11:25am Nov 16, 2017 11:11am | Edited 11:25am
Quoting photize
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"Acording to the original poster it is random !" (should be "According....")

Autohotkey code to decipher alphaomega's cipher:
Inserted Code
InputBox, txt, Decoder, Input text to be decoded
cnt:=0
result:=""
while (cnt<StrLen(txt))  {
  result:=result Chr(ToDec(SubStr(txt,cnt+1,8),2))
  cnt+=8
}
MsgBox % result

q$BXtVJn*8rbh?^?dvJaB7c5G:imsP1F'HlnFCNFztaba2IJaCbM,gN?dc5KMnp
  • #111
  • Nov 16, 2017 11:30am Nov 16, 2017 11:30am
Quoting hanover
{quote} "Acording to the original poster it is random !" (should be "According....") Autohotkey code to decipher alphaomega's cipher: InputBox, txt, Decoder, Input text to be decoded cnt:=0 result:="" while (cnt<StrLen(txt)) { result:=result Chr(ToDec(SubStr(txt,cnt+1,8),2)) cnt+=8 } MsgBox % result q$BXtVJn*8rbh?^?dvJaB7c5G:imsP1F'HlnFCNFztaba2IJaCbM,gN?dc5KMnp

What to do with the code?
  • #112
  • Nov 16, 2017 11:39am Nov 16, 2017 11:39am
Its been a great thread. Lots of fun and great information,



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  • #113
  • Nov 16, 2017 11:41am Nov 16, 2017 11:41am
Quoting Botan626
What to do with the code?
It's an industrial strength encryption, probably not worth anybody's time trying to solve it.
It decodes to "the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" if anybody's interested.
I was just having some fun.
  • #114
  • Nov 16, 2017 11:42am Nov 16, 2017 11:42am
Quoting Botan626
{quote} What to do with the code?
Open a Live account with Peeperstone and paste the code in the promotion input there...
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #115
  • Edited 8:37pm Nov 16, 2017 11:49am | Edited 8:37pm
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  • Edited 8:37pm Nov 16, 2017 11:50am | Edited 8:37pm
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  • #117
  • Nov 16, 2017 11:58am Nov 16, 2017 11:58am
Quoting hanover
{quote} It's an industrial strength encryption, probably not worth anybody's time trying to solve it. It decodes to "the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" if anybody's interested. I was just having some fun.

I meant the one that Inserted. How to use it?
  • #118
  • Nov 16, 2017 12:08pm Nov 16, 2017 12:08pm
Quoting Botan626
I meant the one that Inserted. How to use it?
It is just an example showing the use of the autohotkey language. Ideally, you need to also download this editor to use it interactively.

Arguably the best use for autohotkey is to create macros that remap your keyboard, i.e. so that you can just press one key and it will play back a sequence of predefined keystrokes. However, the developers took it one significant step further and created a fairly comprehensive programming language around the macro facility. I used the autohotkey language to write the news downloader here and also this app here.

I'll make this my last post here so as not to take this thread any further off-topic.
  • #119
  • Nov 16, 2017 12:14pm Nov 16, 2017 12:14pm
Quoting hanover
{quote} It is just an example showing the use of the autohotkey language. Ideally, you need to also download this editor to use it interactively. Arguably the best use for autohotkey is to create macros that remap your keyboard, i.e. so that you can just press one key and it will play back a sequence of predefined keystrokes. However, the developers took it one significant step further and created a fairly comprehensive programming language around the macro facility....
Thanks for clarification.

Learned something new today.
  • #120
  • Nov 16, 2017 12:36pm Nov 16, 2017 12:36pm
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