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  • #10,101
  • Oct 9, 2017 3:15am Oct 9, 2017 3:15am
Quoting jen101
{quote} A knackered old banger isn't very good when it disintegrates when you're rear shunted by a lorry, which is more likely than being held at gunpoint for your car keys. Lorries are a menace, especially the foreign ones who have been going for 48 hours, the driver's watching porn and pissing into bottles, about to drop from a heart attack. My car is built like a tank and it has the performance and handling to not be involved in situations in the first place. I can easily blast out of it if there is the space, better than most. If not, then it...
Saab 900 Turbo ??
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  • #10,102
  • Oct 9, 2017 3:18am Oct 9, 2017 3:18am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} The quantity of water in the bucket is irrelevant, it just has to be going fast enough to keep the water in the bucket. There are two reasons nobody uses a full bucket; a) damage limitation, b) a full bucket weighs too much to be able to achieve critical velocity with hurting yourself or getting soaked.
Ex even if experiment was conducted by machine to account for the weight it won't work, the water will spill if full. Do it with an egg cup first with just the bottom covered and then full. The containment vessel has to have greater capacity to contain the water, the centrifugal force pushes it to the side but too much in there and it spills.

The flat earth model does have some things going for it IMO. If anyone here has ever been involved in construction at planning level, you will have noticed that no account is ever taken of geodetic data even when you have miles and miles of motorway. One plane survey is just linked up the next plane survey and no account for curvature. Plane as in level surface above sea level and no adjustment for curvature. Rather odd if we live on a ball don't you think.
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  • #10,103
  • Oct 9, 2017 3:23am Oct 9, 2017 3:23am
Quoting jen101
{quote} A knackered old banger isn't very good when it disintegrates when you're rear shunted by a lorry, which is more likely than being held at gunpoint for your car keys. Lorries are a menace, especially the foreign ones who have been going for 48 hours, the driver's watching porn and pissing into bottles, about to drop from a heart attack. My car is built like a tank and it has the performance and handling to not be involved in situations in the first place. I can easily blast out of it if there is the space, better than most. If not, then it...
It may be more likely in a leafy burb but inner city it is rife. I don't care how good performance is of your car if a 40 T wagon goes into you at speed you are likely history.
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  • #10,104
  • Oct 9, 2017 3:25am Oct 9, 2017 3:25am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} Saab 900 Turbo ??
BMW 525d m sport in manual, otherwise I would have had the 530.
  • #10,105
  • Oct 9, 2017 3:25am Oct 9, 2017 3:25am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} As I was writing I was thinking about Spike Milligan, who shot intruders with a shotgun and stayed out of jail.
Wasn't aware of that. Maybe his profile saved him ? I loved Spike's humour
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  • #10,106
  • Oct 9, 2017 3:27am Oct 9, 2017 3:27am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} It may be more likely in a leafy burb but inner city it is rife. I don't care how good performance is of your car if a 40 T wagon goes into you at speed you are likely history.
I keep away as far as I can from lorries. Outside lane is the safest.
  • #10,107
  • Oct 9, 2017 3:39am Oct 9, 2017 3:39am
https://youtu.be/IY5A6Sn1fE4
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  • #10,108
  • Oct 9, 2017 3:40am Oct 9, 2017 3:40am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} When you suddenly go quiet we know she has found you.... {quote} I had not realised until now how much we British take our education for granted. Anybody paying attention in regular science classes at school would know why the water stays in the bucket. That leads me to consider all those in other countries who don't have any education at all, it is no wonder that the flat-Earth society gains traction.
Our private education is about the best in the world. This weekend, we visited a school and the facilities were just incredible. The teachers treat you like a customer rather than a burden, there is no patronising attitude you get so much in the state sector. The kids recently did a project where they created new chocolate bars with the school chef, learnt to take it to market, did Excel spreadsheets for their P&L, learnt to present a pitch for funding, learnt the marketing and made a TV ad! This is primary school! No libtard brainwashing. They do have entrance tests as they do get oversubscribed but I reckon it also is a m slim filter, lol. Anyhow, there is far too much focus on Science and Maths for the likes of those. 42 Oxbridge last year! My kids will be going there. We're opting out of the system. Would you want to hire my kids in a few years? Ok more than a few.
  • #10,109
  • Oct 9, 2017 3:45am Oct 9, 2017 3:45am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} Ex even if experiment was conducted by machine to account for the weight it won't work, the water will spill if full. ....
c) when the bucket is full, or nearly full, it cannot be accelerated sideways without some spilling out. ....which leads me to wonder if there is a solution involving changing the attitude of a full bucket and applying acceleration whilst controlling the bucket's attitude in order to avoid spillage. I guess that is another mensa-puzzle


Quoting jen101
{quote} BMW 525d m sport in manual, otherwise I would have had the 530.
Cool!

There was a short vid some years back of survivability testing that had been performed on some cars. The samples were dropped on their roofs from 2 metres to see what happened to the passenger compartment. All of them crushed down except for the Swedish variants, if I recall correctly (IIRC), particularly the Saab 900 maintained its shape completely indicating that any occupants would likely survive a roll-over crash ... asides from other injury causes of course.
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  • #10,110
  • Oct 9, 2017 3:58am Oct 9, 2017 3:58am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Our private education is about the best in the world. This weekend, we visited a school and the facilities were just incredible. The teachers treat you like a customer rather than a burden, there is no patronising attitude you get so much in the state sector. The kids recently did a project where they created new chocolate bars with the school chef, learnt to take it to market, did Excel spreadsheets for their P&L, learnt to present a pitch for funding, learnt the marketing and made a TV ad! This is primary school! No libtard brainwashing....
Sounds a great School Jen. Such a pity that the majority of state schools don't operate the same way.
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  • #10,111
  • Oct 9, 2017 4:06am Oct 9, 2017 4:06am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} c) when the bucket is full, or nearly full, it cannot be accelerated sideways without some spilling out. ....which leads me to wonder if there is a solution involving changing the attitude of a full bucket and applying acceleration whilst controlling the bucket's attitude in order to avoid spillage. I guess that is another mensa-puzzle {quote} Cool! There was a short vid some years back of survivability testing that had been performed on some cars. The samples were dropped on their roofs from 2 metres to see what happened to the...
I don't think so mate, when it can no longer be contained it just flows to find a level but as I'm not a mensa man perhaps there is a solution.
In my mind much is made of the velocity but without the correct size containment it will always just flow.
I suppose it could be proven by being full and sealed then when up to speed releasing the lid ? Would be interesting to see. I think it will still spill out as containment is the more important factor.
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  • #10,112
  • Oct 9, 2017 4:11am Oct 9, 2017 4:11am
Quoting Stu Effex
https://youtu.be/IY5A6Sn1fE4
...and from that vid, here's on that should be shown to kids so that they understand just how dangerous the road is.
https://youtu.be/rWRr2OfnKik
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  • #10,113
  • Oct 9, 2017 4:21am Oct 9, 2017 4:21am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} ...and from that vid, here's on that should be shown to kids so that they understand just how dangerous the road is. https://youtu.be/rWRr2OfnKik
Some of the incompetence is difficult to comprehend. Some of them are clearly doing other things and not driving. It is a missile in the wrong hands.
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  • #10,114
  • Edited 6:32am Oct 9, 2017 4:33am | Edited 6:32am
Just seen the flat earth stuff, not really a physics geek and you guys will know way more than me.

The first time I seen this stuff was a few years ago on another forum, the newest incarnation came from 4chan (I think) and most of the people who 'believed' in the flat earth and were publishing stuff on how the earth was flat were actually just elaborate trolls. Though I'm sure there are some true believers.

Now everyone seems to be talking about it and the conversation is a lot more serious whereas originally it was definitely a prank and most people understood it was, with some joining in and pretending to 'believe'.

Its has morphed into some bizarre social experiment now, watching how far conspiracy theories can go, and how people wrangle with 'truths' and 'facts' and 'sources'.
  • #10,115
  • Oct 9, 2017 5:35am Oct 9, 2017 5:35am
Quoting jen101
{quote} We're talking about if everyone was allowed guns like in America, not as the law is here now.
if you burgle a house with people in it even if they are asleep you get in more trouble and receive a longer jail sentence so in this hypothetical situation if gun's were legal in the UK and you burgle a house with one i'm sure you would received a longer jail sentence even if the gun was licence because it's easier for the crime to escalate sorry i was not clear in my first message about why if gun were legal in the UK criminals would not want to commit every crime with them it's like if you rob the guys with the cash box's and you do it with a weapon you received a longer jail sentence than if you just snatch the box and run or if you just punch them in the stomach and run it's because the crime is less likely to escalate than if you do it with a weapon
  • #10,116
  • Oct 9, 2017 5:46am Oct 9, 2017 5:46am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Our private education is about the best in the world. This weekend, we visited a school and the facilities were just incredible. The teachers treat you like a customer rather than a burden, there is no patronising attitude you get so much in the state sector. The kids recently did a project where they created new chocolate bars with the school chef, learnt to take it to market, did Excel spreadsheets for their P&L, learnt to present a pitch for funding, learnt the marketing and made a TV ad! This is primary school! No libtard brainwashing....
it's not just the better education you are buying but they will also be mixing with better people and in later life have better opportunities as a consequence
  • #10,117
  • Oct 9, 2017 6:37am Oct 9, 2017 6:37am
truly amazing to see any argument for easy assess to guns
like in the modern world they would help overthrow a rogue government is ridiculous
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  • #10,118
  • Oct 9, 2017 6:56am Oct 9, 2017 6:56am
For those who can understand.
https://youtu.be/pELwCqz2JfE
  • #10,119
  • Oct 9, 2017 7:27am Oct 9, 2017 7:27am
The two biggest killers are also the two most profitable industries... case closed

Cigarettes and Guns

Theres no monetary profit in morality, but there is monetary profit in capitalism. The last stage of a capitalist long run economic cycle is War...

there’s much money to be made in times of war.

so... mmm... most normal
people in the real world discover that real profit is nothing to do with monetary gain. But we’re nit quite there yet as a people.

Might take a tremendous ammount of suffering before we cave, and meanwhile old souls die young


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdvM0IB5Sbs
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  • #10,120
  • Oct 9, 2017 8:28am Oct 9, 2017 8:28am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} Sounds a great School Jen. Such a pity that the majority of state schools don't operate the same way.
If they were, we would rule the world. Again. Lol. If we got rid of those who shouldn't be here and got rid of most of the Civil Service who just shuffle bits of paper around anyway, we would be awash with cash and would be able to afford to educate our kids properly. Not much to ask for really.
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