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  • #9,921
  • Oct 5, 2017 3:54am Oct 5, 2017 3:54am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Edit: "public hangings?" Day out with the kids then... I live near a famous public hanging place in the middle ages. How about public hung, drawn and quartered too? You can't beat us on gruesome history!

to be fair with someone like Ian Brady/Ian Huntley you wound get some audience for a public hung drawn and quartered if you was charging £5 at entry and you had some fireworks and a light show i think it would still be profitable but i may be biased i never like people called Ian
  • #9,922
  • Oct 5, 2017 3:55am Oct 5, 2017 3:55am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} come on son up your troll game comparing the execution of a murderer to cutting someones hand off for stealing bread or execution a gay person by throwing them off a tall building/mountain or stoning women to death for adultery or saying women testimony in court is worth less than a man even if she is accusing and he is the defendant your troll game is weak these days what exactly happened to you?
Call it "martial law" if you prefer...
  • #9,923
  • Oct 5, 2017 3:56am Oct 5, 2017 3:56am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} The "deep state" issue ... Trump has been reading from prepared remarks and this time he is not going off script to make his usual idiotic remarks.. So yes, this is a huge anomaly. Something is not right, not right at all..

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  • #9,924
  • Oct 5, 2017 4:04am Oct 5, 2017 4:04am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} Call it "martial law" if you prefer...
but martial law doesn't have a inheritance system that favours people base on gender or a tax for non believers up your troll game and become funny again or jog on
  • #9,925
  • Oct 5, 2017 4:16am Oct 5, 2017 4:16am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} but martial law doesn't have a inheritance system that favours people base on gender or a tax for non believers up your troll game and become funny again or jog on
I can assure you that someone's favorite public hanging is just like any other public hanging...
  • #9,926
  • Oct 5, 2017 4:30am Oct 5, 2017 4:30am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} I can assure you that someone's favorite public hanging is just like any other public hanging...
how many public hangings have you been too?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4950422/Aaron-Barley-killed-mother-son-jailed-life.html#comments

dose this guy deserve to live at the taxpayers expense?

killing someone for adultery and killing someone for a horrendous crime are not the some thing in my opinion do you think they are the some thing from a moral viewpoint?

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this is how a lot of people feel about people that commit a horrendous crime
  • #9,927
  • Edited 5:41am Oct 5, 2017 4:53am | Edited 5:41am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} how many public hangings have you been too? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4950422/Aaron-Barley-killed-mother-son-jailed-life.html#comments dose this guy deserve to live at the taxpayers expense? killing someone for adultery and killing someone for a horrendous crime are not the some thing in my opinion do you think they are the some thing from a moral viewpoint? {image} this is how a lot of people feel about people that commit a horrendous crime
It's only a matter of degree, is it not ?
If you believe that adultery is a horrible crime, then a good stoning is in order (;
Choose your world but always be aware that "institutionalised justice" does not work.
There is the Law of the Land and there is what must be done (the real justice).
Someone like Aaron Barley should have his day in court, but not make it to court on day 1.
  • #9,928
  • Oct 5, 2017 6:14am Oct 5, 2017 6:14am
Quoting marinecorps
{quote} yes, bump stocks will be illegal soon. I truly do not comprehend going after the machinery and not the operator of said machinery. The focus should be on firearm operators and their mental capacity and not the actual firearm itself. Same as a car, plane, knife, or any other potential weapon. And regarding background checks, still don't understand that argument. I have had to do background checks everytime I have purchased a weapon.
Yeah I don't get why they would be illegal when Obama and his admin had approved of this.
  • #9,929
  • Oct 5, 2017 6:28am Oct 5, 2017 6:28am
Hello Stew
  • #9,930
  • Oct 5, 2017 6:33am Oct 5, 2017 6:33am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} Is it my eyes or is that what we call in the UK a Lump Hammer ? {image} http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CK-357005-ANTI-VIBRATION-3lb-1361g-ONE-PIECE-STEEL-FORGED-CLUB-LUMP-HAMMER/122640741305?_trkparms=aid%3D555019%26algo%3DPL.BANDIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20170912101845%26meid%3Dcb9d97f037904072813bedd4e7f156cb%26pid%3D100705%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26&_trksid=p2045573.c100705.m4780
yes that's a lamp hammer
  • #9,931
  • Oct 5, 2017 6:44am Oct 5, 2017 6:44am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} Yeah I don't know about that especially over a 1100 yards which is the distance that was allegedly reported as being the distance of the shooting and the amount of people that died 59 and counting. There is no way a single gun from that distance could have accomplished that feat. You also have to account for wind velocity and angle and when those factors are accounted for in the overall equation it simply doesn't add up in the overall assumption that a single gun man firing from a 32 floor Hotel room is solely responsible. Also not all rifles...
I don't dispute anything you say. I am merely pointing out that a crowd is a barn-door sized target, it is not necessary to be accurate.
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  • #9,932
  • Edited 7:02am Oct 5, 2017 6:51am | Edited 7:02am
Quoting DrManhatten
https://youtu.be/mBbOFwWquAw Compelling video that provides evidence of multiple shooters. This one is weird and it gets weirder!
Ok, no doubt there were multiple shooters.

The shots sound like home-made automatics because they don't keep up a regular rhythm. Only one burst sounded like a true automatic to me.
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  • #9,933
  • Oct 5, 2017 6:56am Oct 5, 2017 6:56am
What do you think of the farce that was May's speech yesterday? They let that prankster get to the front knowing full well what he was going to do and I believe someone had loosened the screws on those letters to make them fall off. I think it was all deliberate. Her coughing fit was a bonus. Reminds me of Hillary, lol.
  • #9,934
  • Edited 9:23am Oct 5, 2017 7:41am | Edited 9:23am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} I don't dispute anything you say. I am merely pointing out that a crowd is a barn-door sized target, it is not necessary to be accurate.
I see your logic, but considering everything I stated and the variables involved it would have been impossible for a 64 year old man to be able to pull that off and be the lone wolf that the narrative of MSM is suggesting.

I had some time to go over some of the photos today of the crime scene, and the impression I get is that the way the guns were found and the way his body was strewn about, it looks like as if the crime scene was planted. Other people I know who have experience with crime scenes who I discussed this with even agree with me. Also, and this is just a theory mind you, but I really don't believe he was the shooter at all, in fact when you consider it took 72 minutes before SWAT was able to get to his room and breach the door of his hotel room, he had already been shot dead allegedly by his own hand. How do we know he killed himself? He could have been set up and killed by someone else for all we know. When reflecting further that this guy was a multi millionaire and had a really good life where he could do anything he wanted, why would he give a shit about any bullshit political or social warrior causes? It makes no sense that he would do what he did. The only logical explanation to me is that maybe he found out he had a terminal illness and decided he was going to go all out in a blaze of glory, but that seems highly unlikely. But come on! He had 23 guns, and cartridges neatly stacked in the hotel room, and had another 19 guns found in his house. He had no military experience, no predisposition to owning guns, nor any record of going to a firing range to shoot any guns, nor any record of purchasing any type of guns. Someone would have known him if he had. Even in the Nevada desert someone would have known or seen him if thought he could go somewhere to secretly fire them off. So this is why this whole thing stinks to high heaven. (no pun intended).
  • #9,935
  • Oct 5, 2017 7:48am Oct 5, 2017 7:48am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} Yes we are all for Sharia law.
Hey! He didn't say LGBT!
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  • #9,936
  • Oct 5, 2017 7:50am Oct 5, 2017 7:50am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Well, actually you do have capital punishment and if that isn't enough of a deterrent, then I don't think anything is. Everyone in here knows how I feel about guns and it's in line with the vast majority of Brits. No we don't get it, don't get why NOTHING whatsoever is done to put innocent lives first. Edit: "public hangings?" Day out with the kids then... I live near a famous public hanging place in the middle ages. How about public hung, drawn and quartered too? You can't beat us on gruesome history!
haar .... Caxton !
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #9,937
  • Oct 5, 2017 8:05am Oct 5, 2017 8:05am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} haar .... Caxton !
McDonald's now.

"It is reputed to be a gruesome example of the cage variation of the gibbet into which live victims were placed until they died from starvation (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starvation), dehydration (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehydration) or exposure (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothermia). After execution dead bodies were certainly suspended in cages as a warning, and may have been here. There are a number of folk tales (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folklore) reported on various websites and in secondary sources (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_sources) of people being hanged at Caxton, none of which can be verified from primary sources (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_sources). The most gruesome concerns the murder of a man called Partridge, either by a poacher or a man who thought Partridge had killed his dog. The murderer, sometime after having escaped abroad for a period, boasted, or was otherwise detected of the crime and ordered to be gibbeted alive. In some versions a local baker who offered him bread suffered a similar fate. There is no contemporaneous record of anything that confirms any part of this story, either in court or burial records. The practical difficulties of enforcing this penalty would be insuperable. There is little evidence of this practice anywhere in England."
  • #9,938
  • Oct 5, 2017 8:39am Oct 5, 2017 8:39am
Quoting jen101
.... and in secondary sources (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_sources) of people being hanged at Caxton, none of which can be verified from primary sources (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_sources). ....
People were definitely hanged at Caxton, by 'Hanging Judge Jeffreys'. My history teacher told me when I was at school, (pre-dates the internet by a long while) so it must be true .... the gibbet is still there at the roadside, a bit down from the new McDonalds (R.I.P. Chinese Restaurant).
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  • #9,939
  • Oct 5, 2017 8:42am Oct 5, 2017 8:42am
Quoting DrManhatten
... I had some time to go over some of the photos today of the crime scene, and the impression I get is that the way the guns were found and the way his body was strewn about, it looks like as if the crime scene was planted. ....
The guy could have been dead before the shooting started.

They played the interview with his brother on UK TV on day-2. Either his brother is a really good actor or he is genuinely bewildered as to why his brother Stephen went off the deep end.

I guess it will be a while before we know anything.
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  • #9,940
  • Oct 5, 2017 9:09am Oct 5, 2017 9:09am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} People were definitely hanged at Caxton, by 'Hanging Judge Jeffreys'. My history teacher told me when I was at school, (pre-dates the internet by a long while) so it must be true .... the gibbet is still there at the roadside, a bit down from the new McDonalds (R.I.P. Chinese Restaurant).
That was a burnt out Chinese for years. I used to drive past thinking what a good spot that would be for a McDonalds and if I had the money at the time, I would have bought the franchise and done it, lol.
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