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  • #9,901
  • Oct 4, 2017 1:05pm Oct 4, 2017 1:05pm
https://youtu.be/mBbOFwWquAw

Compelling video that provides evidence of multiple shooters. This one is weird and it gets weirder!
  • #9,902
  • Oct 4, 2017 1:12pm Oct 4, 2017 1:12pm
There was no "machine gun". It was a slide-fire stock aka a bump stock.

http://www.slidefire.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=61&v=x0f7OCnrrpk

A bump stock literally turns a semi auto into an almost full auto weapon.
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  • #9,903
  • Oct 4, 2017 1:12pm Oct 4, 2017 1:12pm
Quoting marinecorps
interesting comments @DrManhatten. Some of it makes sense such as him not being a lone wolf and more to the story than what we know at this point, but to go straight to him accepting a suicide mission for a measeley $100k when he was retired, a supposed millionaire with a plane and multiple properties, and the hobby of gambling. Doesn't really fit someone that is ready to die for a cause and/or someone who really needs this lowly $100k and is willing to go down like this. That doesn't really add up in my mind, but there are some things that are...
Perhaps the evidence laying around is essential to paint the picture that will draw the conclusion that is required.
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  • #9,904
  • Oct 4, 2017 1:16pm Oct 4, 2017 1:16pm
Quoting Exodus
{quote} Stu ... kudos to you mate
Ha ha if you are as sceptical as I am over most force fed information, bound to get close to the bulls eye at some point.
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  • #9,905
  • Oct 4, 2017 1:19pm Oct 4, 2017 1:19pm
Quoting spzd
There was no "machine gun". It was a slide-fire stock aka a bump stock. http://www.slidefire.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=61&v=x0f7OCnrrpk A bump stock literally turns a semi auto into an almost full auto weapon.

yes, bump stocks will be illegal soon. I truly do not comprehend going after the machinery and not the operator of said machinery. The focus should be on firearm operators and their mental capacity and not the actual firearm itself. Same as a car, plane, knife, or any other potential weapon.

And regarding background checks, still don't understand that argument. I have had to do background checks everytime I have purchased a weapon.
  • #9,906
  • Oct 4, 2017 1:27pm Oct 4, 2017 1:27pm
Quoting marinecorps
{quote} yes, bump stocks will be illegal soon. I truly do not comprehend going after the machinery and not the operator of said machinery. The focus should be on firearm operators and their mental capacity and not the actual firearm itself. Same as a car, plane, knife, or any other potential weapon. And regarding background checks, still don't understand that argument. I have had to do background checks everytime I have purchased a weapon.
They go after the firearms because it has nothing to do with stopping violence and everything to do to make citizens completely subject to the state.
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  • #9,907
  • Oct 4, 2017 1:49pm Oct 4, 2017 1:49pm
Quoting jen101
{quote} Is it not true that when the British were in Israel, they wrapped the suicide bombers' bodies in pig skins before burial? Apparently that soon stopped the suicide missions.
Have not heard that but wouldn't surprise me. Served with Brit marines -- tough bunch -- can get it on when required. Look up how American general "black jack" Pershing dealt with them in the Philippines early last century.
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  • #9,908
  • Oct 4, 2017 1:51pm Oct 4, 2017 1:51pm
Quoting Ross88
{quote} {image} in less this has been photoshopped i find it suspicious that we have not been told what was said in it i'm not really a conspiracy theory guy but the USA has a history with this type of thing from the Orlando gay club shooting when they edited the guy's phone calls

Is it my eyes or is that what we call in the UK a Lump Hammer ?
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  • #9,909
  • Oct 4, 2017 1:55pm Oct 4, 2017 1:55pm
Quoting jen101
Another excellent speech from Nigel. https://youtu.be/hcxcrxslnYk I don't recall the Coudenhove-Kalergi plan ever being talked about in here. Well? https://youtu.be/mL1CCmzuAh4

I have touched upon it a couple of times..

https://youtu.be/P8zBtYp9ttw
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  • #9,910
  • Oct 4, 2017 2:07pm Oct 4, 2017 2:07pm
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} I have touched upon it a couple of times.. https://youtu.be/P8zBtYp9ttw
I think May is after the Kalergi prize. After all, Blair got it as did Merkel and Juncker. Why else deliberately f up the election, screw up Brexit and vow to fight the 2022 election as leader? Surely it isn't possible to be that narcissistic?
  • #9,911
  • Oct 4, 2017 2:12pm Oct 4, 2017 2:12pm
Quoting marinecorps
{quote} yes, bump stocks will be illegal soon. I truly do not comprehend going after the machinery and not the operator of said machinery. The focus should be on firearm operators and their mental capacity and not the actual firearm itself. Same as a car, plane, knife, or any other potential weapon. And regarding background checks, still don't understand that argument. I have had to do background checks everytime I have purchased a weapon.
Was the proposed legislation to ban the mentally incapable possessing firearms rejected under Obama? Zero chance under Trump then. IQ of a monkey running around with guns... Wouldn't trust them with safety scissors.
  • #9,912
  • Oct 4, 2017 2:12pm Oct 4, 2017 2:12pm
Quoting marinecorps
{quote} yes, bump stocks will be illegal soon. I truly do not comprehend going after the machinery and not the operator of said machinery. The focus should be on firearm operators and their mental capacity and not the actual firearm itself. Same as a car, plane, knife, or any other potential weapon. And regarding background checks, still don't understand that argument. I have had to do background checks everytime I have purchased a weapon.
I think they should be illegal. There is absolutely no reason for them. If you can't protect yourself with a M14 (my choice) or AR15 simi automatic, you're dead anyway. A AR and a pump, short barrel 12 Ga. will clear pretty much any field of fire.

A excellent article in the Washington Post by a reformed liberal statistician, Leah Libresco, today. Of the 33,000 gun deaths in the US, 66% were suicides -- mostly older men, 25% were homicides -- mostly male on male and gang related (mostly in half dozen democrat controlled cities) and the balance accidents.

Those damn facts just keep rearing their ugly heads!
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  • #9,913
  • Oct 4, 2017 2:35pm Oct 4, 2017 2:35pm
Quoting jen101
{quote} I think May is after the Kalergi prize. After all, Blair got it as did Merkel and Juncker. Why else deliberately f up the election, screw up Brexit and vow to fight the 2022 election as leader? Surely it isn't possible to be that narcissistic?
There is certainly no prize for being a maverick for the people, she does as she is told as have all before her.

Don't know if you are old enough Jen but I'm sure you would love episodes of "Yes Minister". It really is spot on.

https://youtu.be/G5P34nJzsaY

https://youtu.be/gmOvEwtDycs
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  • #9,914
  • Oct 4, 2017 8:44pm Oct 4, 2017 8:44pm
Quoting jen101
{quote} Was the proposed legislation to ban the mentally incapable possessing firearms rejected under Obama? Zero chance under Trump then. IQ of a monkey running around with guns... Wouldn't trust them with safety scissors.
The House this year rejected this legislation, but it was a broad overreaching law that would target many with disabilities and classify them incapable of owning a firearm. It's not the IQ or ability/inability I'm worried about, it's the intent and character that would come into play. Someone loaded up on lithium or oxy's or other legal smack may not be the right candidate to own. At the end of the day, the weapon itself does not do the killing of innocent lives.

Also, if we went back to executions and public hangings for murderers, rapists, pedofiles and other severe criminals, there would be a lot less of those crimes. Eye for an eye!
  • #9,915
  • Oct 5, 2017 12:34am Oct 5, 2017 12:34am
Quoting marinecorps
{quote} The House this year rejected this legislation, but it was a broad overreaching law that would target many with disabilities and classify them incapable of owning a firearm. It's not the IQ or ability/inability I'm worried about, it's the intent and character that would come into play. Someone loaded up on lithium or oxy's or other legal smack may not be the right candidate to own. At the end of the day, the weapon itself does not do the killing of innocent lives. Also, if we went back to executions and public hangings for murderers, rapists,...
Yes we are all for Sharia law.
  • #9,916
  • Oct 5, 2017 12:37am Oct 5, 2017 12:37am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} I didn't see the brothers interviews, but I heard a similar comment as yours as being strange. Also I am not sure of the deep state thing, but there are are some really strange anomalies that make some aspect of this questioning it whether it being coincidental. The cameras that were set up, the Venue, other reports of other gun fire coming from different places, and people warning concert attendees that people were going to get murdered just 40 minutes prior. {image}
The "deep state" issue ...
Trump has been reading from prepared remarks and this time he is not going off script to make his usual idiotic remarks..
So yes, this is a huge anomaly. Something is not right, not right at all..
  • #9,917
  • Edited 2:51am Oct 5, 2017 2:12am | Edited 2:51am
Quoting marinecorps
{quote} The House this year rejected this legislation, but it was a broad overreaching law that would target many with disabilities and classify them incapable of owning a firearm. It's not the IQ or ability/inability I'm worried about, it's the intent and character that would come into play. Someone loaded up on lithium or oxy's or other legal smack may not be the right candidate to own. At the end of the day, the weapon itself does not do the killing of innocent lives. Also, if we went back to executions and public hangings for murderers, rapists,...
Well, actually you do have capital punishment and if that isn't enough of a deterrent, then I don't think anything is.

Everyone in here knows how I feel about guns and it's in line with the vast majority of Brits. No we don't get it, don't get why NOTHING whatsoever is done to put innocent lives first.

Edit: "public hangings?" Day out with the kids then... I live near a famous public hanging place in the middle ages. How about public hung, drawn and quartered too? You can't beat us on gruesome history!
  • #9,918
  • Oct 5, 2017 2:43am Oct 5, 2017 2:43am
https://youtu.be/Heda8CVBJ4c
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  • #9,919
  • Oct 5, 2017 3:46am Oct 5, 2017 3:46am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} Yes we are all for Sharia law.
come on son up your troll game comparing the execution of a murderer to cutting someones hand off for stealing bread or execution a gay person by throwing them off a tall building/mountain or stoning women to death for adultery or saying women testimony in court is worth less than a man even if she is accusing and he is the defendant your troll game is weak these days what exactly happened to you?
  • #9,920
  • Oct 5, 2017 3:52am Oct 5, 2017 3:52am
https://youtu.be/r-umUPhVQks
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