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  • #33,861
  • Edited 6:48am Sep 21, 2017 6:35am | Edited 6:48am
Quoting Pattrader
{quote} sl +10 tp40 needs to find some support @12610
@12605 last line in sand,..

if it breaks we might see 12580 again for support,..
curious to see NY open.
Trade what you see not what you think,..happy trading
  • #33,862
  • Sep 21, 2017 6:40am Sep 21, 2017 6:40am
Quoting Jupiter
{quote} Absolutely... But I trade the m5. Look. Nothing strange. In the waves. And what I felt/saw was the new wave rising. Look at the net price. (It's the middle line) It is question of style and habit. And did you see it yesterday. I aim to take the big movement. Not 1 point. This is why I asked about your charts. Now I'm scaling again. Breath in... and breath out. Wave in and wave out. {image}
very true, you're doing well, enjoy.
p.s. higher TF offer bigger movements

GLGT
Trade what you see not what you think,..happy trading
  • #33,863
  • Sep 21, 2017 6:50am Sep 21, 2017 6:50am
Quoting Pattrader
{quote} p.s. higher TF offer bigger movements GLGT
Nice conversation. Thanks for having me.

Yes. I's a long story... a long debate.
But low timeframes offer you the possibility to stretch and stress the move (as I do)
and the great possibility to correct some of your mistakes.

Nothing change. You must always be on the right direction! That's the core of the question.
But yes my way is not for all. I agree.
You need strong mindset and technique or you are dead.
Sorry if I disturbed the thread or anyone sensibility.
It was not my intention.
  • #33,864
  • Sep 21, 2017 6:54am Sep 21, 2017 6:54am
shorts

no right moment but assume te risk
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  • #33,865
  • Sep 21, 2017 6:58am Sep 21, 2017 6:58am
Quoting Jupiter
{quote} Nice conversation. Thanks for having me. Yes. I's a long story... a long debate. But low timeframes offer you the possibility to stretch and stress the move (as I do) and the great possibility to correct some of your mistakes. Nothing change. You must always be on the right direction! That's the core of the question. But yes my way is not for all. I agree. You need strong mindset and technique or you are dead. Sorry if I disturbed the thread or anyone sensibility. It was not my intention.
thatīs ok, itīs about daytrading (see the rules in post #1 of this thread).
fortis fortuna adiuvat
  • #33,866
  • Sep 21, 2017 7:17am Sep 21, 2017 7:17am
Quoting Pattrader
{quote} @12605 last line in sand,.. if it breaks we might see 12590 or even 12580 again for support,.. curious to see NY open.
sl hit +13

waiting for further setup
Trade what you see not what you think,..happy trading
  • #33,867
  • Sep 21, 2017 7:49am Sep 21, 2017 7:49am
Quoting littspaniard
shorts no right moment but assume te risk {image}
move stop loss at -10 points

edit close manually....draghi is coming
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  • #33,868
  • Edited 8:30am Sep 21, 2017 8:11am | Edited 8:30am
A stupid exhibition... you are right.
Shame on me. God forgive me

Scale in and scale out.
And going up.
Bye.
Sorry for the MA. This is my background chart. The chart I use for control and analysis. Usually I trade naked.

This thing could retrace again at 12605. Trade carefully.

Edit... can't quantify the exact number of points... sorry. Don't want to make mistakes. I beg your pardon.
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  • #33,869
  • Sep 21, 2017 9:12am Sep 21, 2017 9:12am
In each trend there is a Main/Prevailing Trend and a Secondary Trend.
The question is all in TIMING!
That is the Gann's Lesson.
You can trade both direction with the right timing.
OK?

I didn't stand in front of the train...
Let the Bear react at 620 and now I'am long again from support. I'm trading the H1 trend until is up.

This is my last post here.
I don't want to invade and devastate your thread.
Good luck. To you and to me.

Chart at your disposal.
Yes it's a very demanding style. (Technical Analysis Fallacy here in FF... dear fti!)
Yes it's difficult. Nothing is easy in the market.
Yes can cut your head in two pieces.
  • #33,870
  • Sep 21, 2017 9:34am Sep 21, 2017 9:34am
longs
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  • #33,871
  • Sep 21, 2017 10:10am Sep 21, 2017 10:10am
Quoting Jupiter
In each trend there is a Main/Prevailing Trend and a Secondary Trend. The question is all in TIMING! That is the Gann's Lesson. You can trade both direction with the right timing. OK? I didn't stand in front of the train... Let the Bear react at 620 and now I'am long again from support. I'm trading the H1 trend until is up. This is my last post here. I don't want to invade and devastate your thread. Good luck. To you and to me. Chart at your disposal. Yes it's a very demanding style. (Technical Analysis Fallacy here in FF... dear fti!) Yes it's...
good luck to you. i have no problems with your posting. just post your entry in a timely manner, then itīs all fine.
fortis fortuna adiuvat
  • #33,872
  • Sep 21, 2017 10:10am Sep 21, 2017 10:10am
This thread just went from good to great.
Thanks deltaone. And thanks to everyone on here
  • #33,873
  • Sep 21, 2017 10:12am Sep 21, 2017 10:12am
Quoting FxIpMan
This thread just went from good to great. Thanks deltaone. And thanks to everyone on here
youīre welcome.
fortis fortuna adiuvat
  • #33,874
  • Sep 21, 2017 10:30am Sep 21, 2017 10:30am
Quoting Jupiter
In each trend there is a Main/Prevailing Trend and a Secondary Trend. The question is all in TIMING! That is the Gann's Lesson. You can trade both direction with the right timing. OK? I didn't stand in front of the train... Let the Bear react at 620 and now I'am long again from support. I'm trading the H1 trend until is up. This is my last post here. I don't want to invade and devastate your thread. Good luck. To you and to me. Chart at your disposal. Yes it's a very demanding style. (Technical Analysis Fallacy here in FF... dear fti!) Yes it's...
Timing is crucial, that's Very True sir, although not fit for every one, the market does go in cycles of eb and flow which can be traded both ways, very demanding to trade both sides though. I''d like to find (not always clear) the predominant trend and go with flow. Have a good one

GLGT
Trade what you see not what you think,..happy trading
  • #33,875
  • Sep 21, 2017 10:36am Sep 21, 2017 10:36am
dow is unclear to me. might take a short below p:
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  • #33,876
  • Sep 21, 2017 10:51am Sep 21, 2017 10:51am
@deltaone
Thank you sir...
I'll think about it. Although, with my scale in and out, it is not simple. I'll see...thanks for the gentle offer.

@Pattrader.
You are perfectly right on trend trading. I wrote clearly: I'm trading the H1 trend until is up!
It's my elemetary English, Sir. Thank you for your answer...
The sentence was something like that:
(If you want/If you like) you can/could trade both way....
(I did NOT do it!) I let (past tense) the bear react...

Now again.
I closed the position at the failure high, banking my profit.
Scouts long always in, at the base of the leg up..
And now I am just waiting at Support on H1. (ema20)
I'm trading the range (if you want) with good profit. (Toward north)

>The idea is:
Bears make money.
Bulls make money.
And the pigs (contrarian and out of timing/trapped) they are slaughter.
So search and stay in the main trend. Always on the right side. Never fight the tape.

I told it was my last post here... and I'm here again...LOL/ROFL sorry for you!

Anyway this last failure was ugly! Really a failure! Watch the lows and decide.
Now we are inside the H1 "Zone" ema9/20... so... it's really delicate: under the ema9!
My base is 590. My scouts are there. Stop below.
  • #33,877
  • Sep 21, 2017 10:56am Sep 21, 2017 10:56am
Quoting littspaniard
longs {image}
stop loss hit 5*-10=-50 points
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  • #33,878
  • Sep 21, 2017 10:58am Sep 21, 2017 10:58am
not my preferred time for dow, nonetheless i try:

short @22.384,1 sl -20 tp +60
fortis fortuna adiuvat
  • #33,879
  • Sep 21, 2017 11:00am Sep 21, 2017 11:00am
Quoting deltaone
dow is unclear to me. might take a short below p: {image}
Yes, I expected a retest but buyers didnīt appears at my level , maybe a litte lower . Add a chart with a move i expected....
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  • #33,880
  • Sep 21, 2017 11:01am Sep 21, 2017 11:01am
Quoting Jupiter
@deltaone Thank you sir... I'll think about it. Although, with my scale in and out, it is not simple. I'll see...thanks for the gentle offer. @Pattrader. You are perfectly right on trend trading. I wrote clearly: I'm trading the H1 trend until is up! It's my elemetary English, Sir. Thank you for your answer... The sentence was something like that: (If you want/If you like) you can/could trade both way.... (I did NOT do it!) I let (past tense) the bear react... Now again. I closed the position at the failure high, banking my profit. Scouts long always...
youīre welcome. this place was ment to be a corner for live trade calls (dax and dow). the more different traders/intraday tactics, the better!
fortis fortuna adiuvat
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