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  • #8,981
  • Sep 8, 2017 8:59am Sep 8, 2017 8:59am
https://youtu.be/QZm-LBMbxH4
  • #8,982
  • Sep 8, 2017 9:22am Sep 8, 2017 9:22am
Quoting Stu Effex
For FF. You can censor this video on the grounds of it not being trading related but urge you to not pander to the usual suspects who whine and complain about causing offence. These topics are trading related and need to be discussed. All fundamental issues have the potential to impact on trading. Fundamental issues do include the impact of mass immigration, do include religious wars and other topics however unsavoury they may be to some. Example, current numbers of Muslim migrants into UK suggest that in as little as 20 years the indigenous population...
Im going to step out here and start the discussion. I know there is a mild civil war going on in Judaism because of the scripture. Most very religious Jews believe the state of Israel is not legitimate because it does not fulfill scripture. Jewish exile is to be in place until their Messiah arrives. Only then can a true Jewish state be formed. So the conversation was about a secular Jewish state, which many Jews do not believe is proper. Two-thirds of Jews do not live in Israel. That said, it is not surprising that a glaring double standard would exist. The political form of Zionism many believe is a stumbling block for real Jews to overcome. This is why when people talk about "the Jewish Question", it would a good idea to read what many Jews themselves think about this question. It is very enlightening to read. Jews are to be an God given asset to the world, Zionists are not, and many orthodox Jews will be very quick to tell you this. Where Christians have gone wrong is that they believe Jews killed Christ. In the heart of the Roman Empire in it's prime? Really? The tribes of Israel could not sneeze without Roman permission. Somehow this got lost, and here we are with this so-called "Question".
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #8,983
  • Sep 8, 2017 12:35pm Sep 8, 2017 12:35pm
You decide! Inside job or coincidence?


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/equifax-executives-sold-stock-after-data-breach-before-informing-public-2017-09-07?link=sfmw_tw
  • #8,984
  • Sep 8, 2017 1:46pm Sep 8, 2017 1:46pm
Quoting Ross88
{quote} OK rap music is not something i paid any attention to but today i accidentally saw the first video i posted and it made me laugh and as i remembered you guys were taking about British music from the 1960's so i was just showing you how bad British music is now as i thought it would make you laugh and in the first video a BBC radio hosts was threatened so he responded by saying you are not threatening as you got rubbed by roll safe so i looked for roll safe and found the second video which was also funny at least to me anyway at this point...
Ok got it mate didn't mean to be disrespectful I just go blank as soon as I hear that beat and drone.
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  • #8,985
  • Sep 8, 2017 3:33pm Sep 8, 2017 3:33pm
British 90's dance music was legendary! How could any of you crinklies omit that? 90's was the age to have experienced on the London club scene!
https://youtu.be/syiNmDS3Ehg
https://youtu.be/u3ltZmI5LQw
https://youtu.be/dFxGh62G_yE
https://youtu.be/WI42hQHfbi8
  • #8,986
  • Sep 8, 2017 3:34pm Sep 8, 2017 3:34pm
Quoting jen101
British 90's dance music was legendary! How could any of you crinklies omit that? 90's was the age to have experienced on the London club scene! https://youtu.be/syiNmDS3Ehg
Because a lot of us crinklies probably weren't dancing by then, Jen!
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #8,987
  • Sep 8, 2017 3:46pm Sep 8, 2017 3:46pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Because a lot of us crinklies probably weren't dancing by then, Jen!
Nah, it's all in your mind. I'm still dancing now!
  • #8,988
  • Sep 8, 2017 4:10pm Sep 8, 2017 4:10pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Im going to step out here and start the discussion. I know there is a mild civil war going on in Judaism because of the scripture. Most very religious Jews believe the state of Israel is not legitimate because it does not fulfill scripture. Jewish exile is to be in place until their Messiah arrives. Only then can a true Jewish state be formed. So the conversation was about a secular Jewish state, which many Jews do not believe is proper. Two-thirds of Jews do not live in Israel. That said, it is not surprising that a glaring double standard...
I don't really understand the religious aspects and think the stories are a smokescreen to the real issue. The money trail would suggest that the German Zionists brokered a deal with the British Government to deliver Palestine as a Jewish state if they won WW1 on the basis they would bring the US into the war to assure the victory over Germany. As 2 years in the British army was devastated and the war cabinet went for the deal. The Balfour Declaration, which was addressed to Lord Rothschild.
https://www.rothschildarchive.org/contact/faqs/walter_rothschild_and_the_balfour_declaration.

The Zionist then brokered another deal with the Reich in 1933 "The Transfer Agreement" which assured the safe passage of Jews to Palestine with their assets intact which continued until 1940/41.

So it would appear to me the money side of "The Jewish Question" have been hell bent on bringing the chickens home to roost. So could it be possible that financing mass immigration to the homelands of those that have yet to roost would encourage them to bolster numbers in the Sate of Israel and guarantee existence for the chosen ones above all else ?
https://youtu.be/L3wKzyIN1yk
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  • #8,989
  • Sep 8, 2017 4:19pm Sep 8, 2017 4:19pm
Quoting jen101
{quote} Nah, it's all in your mind. I'm still dancing now!

Oiiii I have played plenty of 90's too and can still shuffle a bit !!
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  • #8,990
  • Sep 8, 2017 4:27pm Sep 8, 2017 4:27pm
Quoting jen101
How could any of you crinklies omit that? 90's was the age to have experienced on the London club scene!

No "Pump Up The Jam " or "Groove Is In The Heart " ???

https://youtu.be/MH6TJU0qWoY
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  • #8,991
  • Sep 8, 2017 4:52pm Sep 8, 2017 4:52pm
I think these were the club tunes as my young single male status days drew to a close, was happy about that as it wasn't really my scene (musically) but no denying the ladies like these tunes back in the day.

https://youtu.be/PGNiXGX2nLU

https://youtu.be/pEBXuhqVSws

https://youtu.be/QYHxGBH6o4M
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  • #8,992
  • Sep 8, 2017 4:53pm Sep 8, 2017 4:53pm
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} No "Pump Up The Jam " or "Groove Is In The Heart " ??? https://youtu.be/MH6TJU0qWoY
Too mainstream and commercial, not club tunes. Second one is just naff.

Quoting Stu Effex
I think these were the club tunes as my young single male status days drew to a close, was happy about that as it wasn't really my scene (musically) but no denying the ladies like these tunes back in the day. https://youtu.be/PGNiXGX2nLU https://youtu.be/pEBXuhqVSws https://youtu.be/QYHxGBH6o4M
Rick James, like a bit of funk.
  • #8,993
  • Sep 8, 2017 4:57pm Sep 8, 2017 4:57pm
Quoting jen101
{quote} Too mainstream and commercial, not club tunes. Second one is just naff.
I agree but think they were popular and never off the bloody radio. Anyway talking of NAFF !!!!!! Culure Beat MR Vain
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  • #8,994
  • Sep 8, 2017 5:01pm Sep 8, 2017 5:01pm
This sums me up now ! Plus it's a great track

Have A good weekend folks

https://youtu.be/jd5ssTq_QVw
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  • #8,995
  • Sep 8, 2017 5:51pm Sep 8, 2017 5:51pm
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} I don't really understand the religious aspects and think the stories are a smokescreen to the real issue. The money trail would suggest that the German Zionists brokered a deal with the British Government to deliver Palestine as a Jewish state if they won WW1 on the basis they would bring the US into the war to assure the victory over Germany. As 2 years in the British army was devastated and the war cabinet went for the deal. The Balfour Declaration, which was addressed to Lord Rothschild. https://www.rothschildarchive.org/contact/faqs/walter_rothschild_and_the_balfour_declaration....
It's hard to separate the Jewish question from religion because the very idea of a Jewish state is based upon religion. There is no secular claim that exists. Do I think it is possible that Zionists are using their remarkable advantage in relation to monetary resource to influence a long term outcome, certainly. But as I said, most Jews did not buy into the the Israel thing, and a fair number of them it would appear based on casual online browsing seem opposed to the system of apartheid that modern Israel is currently using. I have the give the religious Jews more weight because a homeland is based in a religious claim. Those Jews say it is too early, and that this state will not last as it is not legitimate to their God. For the record, the secular Israel is going nowhere as long as the UK, the US, and Germany say it stays. I always get a chuckle out of the Jihadists hurling the random rocket, and even the state of Iran when it say Israel will be wiped off the earth. If anything happens to it, it will be from within, not without.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKplabTRuak
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #8,996
  • Sep 8, 2017 6:35pm Sep 8, 2017 6:35pm
In case the question comes up of whether are not there are two Israels, here is a follow up video, making the split very clear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me4FqdrmVBs
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #8,997
  • Sep 8, 2017 9:50pm Sep 8, 2017 9:50pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe500eIK1oA
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  • #8,998
  • Sep 9, 2017 12:37am Sep 9, 2017 12:37am
https://youtu.be/DYw9UrsFJa4

https://youtu.be/_9NCowUMPAY
  • #8,999
  • Sep 9, 2017 12:39am Sep 9, 2017 12:39am
Quoting Stu Effex
This sums me up now ! Plus it's a great track Have A good weekend folks https://youtu.be/jd5ssTq_QVw

You too Stu! Raise a pint if you still do! Lol!
  • #9,000
  • Sep 9, 2017 1:05am Sep 9, 2017 1:05am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} It's hard to separate the Jewish question from religion because the very idea of a Jewish state is based upon religion. There is no secular claim that exists. Do I think it is possible that Zionists are using their remarkable advantage in relation to monetary resource to influence a long term outcome, certainly. But as I said, most Jews did not buy into the the Israel thing, and a fair number of them it would appear based on casual online browsing seem opposed to the system of apartheid that modern Israel is currently using. I have the give...

Not to be crashing your conversation here Jmn, but I had to state something, because all in all these types of conversations is sort of reminding me of chasing something we are trying to find answers to in a round about way. The most fascinating character to me is Jesus. He is not only the most controversial figure in all of human history but also in many ways the most ironic as well. Ironic you ask? Jesus is the only figure to have so many different incarnations, from Black Jesus, to white blued eyed, to the common mongrel brown eyed. I am still waiting for a Chinese Jesus to emerge to complete his many incarnations. The point is, Jesus or what ever form he appears still begs the question of Christianity itself where man is still a fallen flawed being, that the true practice and its virtues in which Jesus taught has never been truly achieved. The biggest irony of all is that Jesus himself was a Jew, and thus was killed by his own people for going up against the establishment of the day. Lastly I beg to ask this question that in it's present form, and in today's rambled narratives of Human's struggle and conflicts between science, and the spiritual to answer the questions that we have yet to understand, and in-between the moral ambiguities that we try to answer to impose on ourselves as our own need to control such narratives out of fear, or lust for greed and power, such messages are lost altogether. The question is: Was Jesus a socialist?

Just so you know where I am coming from, I am not a Christian, but I do find Christianity, and the study of the virtues fascinating, because when breaking down the components of it in the most simplest terms, it really is man (or Woman) itself that is responsible with the free will to choose what is right and what is wrong in the end. We forget that we are mere animals living and sharing a planet with other species.
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