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  • #8,941
  • Sep 8, 2017 1:03am Sep 8, 2017 1:03am
Quoting spzd
Not British. Rode the coattails of the Invasion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iW2_Ec3uEU
Lead singer Stevie Wright was English. Moved to Oz.
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  • #8,942
  • Sep 8, 2017 3:27am Sep 8, 2017 3:27am
For FF. You can censor this video on the grounds of it not being trading related but urge you to not pander to the usual suspects who whine and complain about causing offence. These topics are trading related and need to be discussed. All fundamental issues have the potential to impact on trading. Fundamental issues do include the impact of mass immigration, do include religious wars and other topics however unsavoury they may be to some.
Example, current numbers of Muslim migrants into UK suggest that in as little as 20 years the indigenous population will be in the minority. Obviously that is likely to have an impact on trading, will trading in the City Of London even still exist under sharia ? Will the GBP even still exist or will it be replaced ? I say these are all valid questions and although some topics may appear to have no relevance they are all interrelated. Another example could be the abolition of the Catholic Church, what financial implications would that have ? It is not such a far fetched idea or notion when you consider that Christianity is on course to disapear in the Middle East. ( http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/christianity-on-course-to-disappear-in-parts-of-middle-east-as-ethnic-cleansing-continues-report-a6728831.html)


Anyway on with the post, this is a very interesting discussion conducted by a guy who is fast becoming almost mainstream in delivery of news and the dissection thereof.
No inference implied, for evaluation purposes.
https://youtu.be/-Q8BLfefGtg
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  • #8,943
  • Sep 8, 2017 3:32am Sep 8, 2017 3:32am
Quoting jen101
{quote} I don't think so. The majority of people were very poor compared to today's standards and the 60's / 70's had a very Labour government. Not to mention that we were still trying to recover from the war, had Unions causing shit and blackouts. Just because you are older and wiser now, shouldn't mean you should see the past through rose tinted glasses! I am happy to live now. I like technology and I think this is a very exciting time!
Exciting it definitely is. Technologically advanced it definitely is. Culturally enhanced? ......hmmm

Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} Ya couldn't make this shit up Oxytocin= "The Love Hormone" {image} Eurocrats don't serve the people, simple.
Stu, I had to look this up: oxytocin == A hormone that stimulates contractions during labour/labor, and then the production of milk.

Now it all becomes clear. This substance is to be given to the entire population so that they feel the need to accept and support the 'things' that have just been delivered at the doorstep.

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From Down under to London this is going on. So have all the respective governments got together and thought it would be a good idea to have some mass immigration policies ? Or is there a select club that rules them all and that is why the same thing is happening ?
I believe that somebody sold them on the mass immigration policy. The bean-counters brought to the fore the state of the government purse when the number of people qualifying for a pension exceeded the number of working-age tax payers. The oversight has been the fact that the incoming throng is welfare and benefit dependant.

The demographics of Western culture are as depicted by that ace video clip that Jen has posted a couple of times, showing how the young upwardly mobile couple end up with no kids whereas the lesser-educated culture-set (not meaning to offend anyone, so apologies there) breed like rabbits. Societal pressure to work and achieve does not allow time for 'having a family'. Indeed the current mindset appears to apply disadvantage to those who strive to have a 'career' and a family, largely by making it financially onerous for one partner to stop work and simultaneously destroying the career prospects of that partner. I lay that squarely at the feet of Margaret Thatcher ... now that my hindsight is fully up and functional.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #8,944
  • Sep 8, 2017 3:51am Sep 8, 2017 3:51am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} Exciting it definitely is. Technologically advanced it definitely is. Culturally enhanced? ......hmmm {quote} Stu, I had to look this up: oxytocin == A hormone that stimulates contractions during labour/labor, and then the production of milk. Now it all becomes clear. This substance is to be given to the entire population so that they feel the need to accept and support the 'things' that have just been delivered at the doorstep. {quote} I believe that somebody sold them on the mass immigration policy. The bean-counters brought...
Oxytocin stimulates the feeling of love, whether it is a mother meeting her new baby or two people falling in love. The falling in love bit is down to oxytocin. So the theory goes that if they give you a shot or ten of oxytocin, you will feel more empathy towards the plight of the poor undocumented migrants refugees illegals.
  • #8,945
  • Sep 8, 2017 3:51am Sep 8, 2017 3:51am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} Exciting it definitely is. Technologically advanced it definitely is. Culturally enhanced? ......hmmm {quote} Stu, I had to look this up: oxytocin == A hormone that stimulates contractions during labour/labor, and then the production of milk. Now it all becomes clear. This substance is to be given to the entire population so that they feel the need to accept and support the 'things' that have just been delivered at the doorstep. {quote} I believe that somebody sold them on the mass immigration policy. The bean-counters brought...
This substance is to be given to the entire population so that they feel the need to accept and support the 'things' that have just been delivered at the doorstep


The oversight has been the fact that the incoming throng is welfare and benefit dependant.

Ex this I would truly like to believe but seriously "oversight". Oxfam and the BBC alone have for at least the last 40 years been showing us how backward these countries are and the powers that be make an oversight on this scale, IMO I don't think so.

Societal pressure to work and achieve

Not so sure about societal pressure but from what I see even for middle income earners the pressure comes from the Bank and trying to keep a roof over the families head. The mortgage is the noose which keeps most people in check who work and the noose for the couch sitters is the threat of sanctions to their benefits. There is a noose for everyone but the few who can say FU to it all.
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  • #8,946
  • Sep 8, 2017 3:51am Sep 8, 2017 3:51am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} My contribution to the theme. The arrangement is sweet as the organ slowly comes up to dominate this dark but excellently performed song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sB3Fjw3Uvc The Americans did begin to catch on though. Like we always, do, when we figure it out, look out! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu2pVPWGYMQ Another favorite from the tail end of that era. Great song. Ignore the woman except as a reminder that girls like that will ruin your life and give you an early and possibly violent death. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDLLXUaqZxg...
Oh wow.... I still have my Credence collection. I used to own the Santana album on vinyl, not the belly dance version unfortunately..

So to a young woman whom I never appreciated at the time, but her vocal power is unquestionable.

https://youtu.be/Qev-i9-VKlY
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #8,947
  • Sep 8, 2017 3:58am Sep 8, 2017 3:58am
Quoting Exodus
{quote}The demographics of Western culture are as depicted by that ace video clip that Jen has posted a couple of times, showing how the young upwardly mobile couple end up with no kids whereas the lesser-educated culture-set (not meaning to offend anyone, so apologies there) breed like rabbits. Societal pressure to work and achieve does not allow time for 'having a family'. Indeed the current mindset appears to apply disadvantage to those who strive to have a 'career' and a family, largely by making it financially onerous for one partner to stop...
It's like reverse natural selection, the fittest for this current period in civilization are selecting against themselves. Weird.

I would not blame Thatcher, each person chooses to have a career, or a family. Nobody forced them.
  • #8,948
  • Sep 8, 2017 4:05am Sep 8, 2017 4:05am
Quoting Stu Effex
.... will trading in the City Of London even still exist under sharia ?
There is a fundamental rule which says that 'interest' is not to be applied to loans ... or something like that.

Apart from being contrary to the very fabric and structure of western economies, I wondered why on that basis anyone would ever go into business to lend money; and equally how would business function when there is a clear need to borrow for capital investment? ....unless, borrowing for capital investment (factories, machinery) is also taboo.


You are right about the mortgage bit above somewhere.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #8,949
  • Sep 8, 2017 4:07am Sep 8, 2017 4:07am
Quoting verv
{quote} It's like reverse natural selection, the fittest for this current period in civilization are selecting against themselves. Weird. I would not blame Thatcher, each person chooses to have a career, or a family. Nobody forced them.
Thatcher threw one of the stones against the family unit when she said that people who want a job should move to a part of the country where jobs are available.

Think about the aftermath of the dying coal mining industry, and some other heavy industries of the more northern counties.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #8,950
  • Sep 8, 2017 4:10am Sep 8, 2017 4:10am
Quoting Stu Effex
For FF. You can censor this video on the grounds of it not being trading related but urge you to not pander to the usual suspects who whine and complain about causing offence. These topics are trading related and need to be discussed. All fundamental issues have the potential to impact on trading. Fundamental issues do include the impact of mass immigration, do include religious wars and other topics however unsavoury they may be to some. Example, current numbers of Muslim migrants into UK suggest that in as little as 20 years the indigenous population...

He is totally right on double standards.

Most people in this thread are atheist, do people object to the UK being called a Christian country?
  • #8,951
  • Sep 8, 2017 4:15am Sep 8, 2017 4:15am
Whilst looking for a suitable link I came across this wonderful piece of advertising http://www.experian.co.uk/identity-and-fraud/databreach.html

The reason for looking? Making the news this morning is the most recent embarrassing data breach... http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-equifax-data-breach-20170907-story.html


Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #8,952
  • Sep 8, 2017 4:25am Sep 8, 2017 4:25am
Quoting verv
{quote} He is totally right on double standards. Most people in this thread are atheist, do people object to the UK being called a Christian country?
It's going on a different tack than the quoted discussion but on a personal level , no. Christian churches have been right there the whole of my life. C of E and Catholicism being the more prominent brands of choice. In my younger days I just considered it like other things, some people into motorbikes, some into going to church. So always been there in the background although have never personally had a need for it I do think it has been part of the fabric historically and would not want to see it replaced with something which is absolutely not culturally fitting with our society.
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  • #8,953
  • Sep 8, 2017 4:27am Sep 8, 2017 4:27am
Just a quick question: you may or may not give money to charity and this is not a judgemental question or aimed at ethics or morals; but out of interest which charities do you consider are more deserving and requiring more help? (domestic UK and or internationl)
Thanks
  • #8,954
  • Sep 8, 2017 4:28am Sep 8, 2017 4:28am
Quoting Exodus
Whilst looking for a suitable link I came across this wonderful piece of advertising http://www.experian.co.uk/identity-and-fraud/databreach.html The reason for looking? Making the news this morning is the most recent embarrassing data breach... http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-equifax-data-breach-20170907-story.html
Ha ha what an advertisement !!
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  • #8,955
  • Sep 8, 2017 4:28am Sep 8, 2017 4:28am
Quoting jen101
{quote} I don't think so. The majority of people were very poor compared to today's standards and the 60's / 70's had a very Labour government. Not to mention that we were still trying to recover from the war, had Unions causing shit and blackouts. Just because you are older and wiser now, shouldn't mean you should see the past through rose tinted glasses! I am happy to live now. I like technology and I think this is a very exciting time!
Did you live or were born in that era? Also I am not looking through rose colored glasses, so not sure where you get that inference in my previous statement. I am sure living now was just as exciting to live back then, as it is only relative to the people themselves who lived through certain periods of time.
  • #8,956
  • Sep 8, 2017 4:28am Sep 8, 2017 4:28am
https://youtu.be/yIhUNbR9Yao
  • #8,957
  • Sep 8, 2017 4:29am Sep 8, 2017 4:29am
https://youtu.be/CsJWe_0mk80
  • #8,958
  • Sep 8, 2017 4:30am Sep 8, 2017 4:30am
Quoting NoStopsXXL
Just a quick question: you may or may not give money to charity and this is not a judgemental question or aimed at ethics or morals; but out of interest which charities do you consider are more deserving and requiring more help? (domestic UK and or internationl) Thanks
I have RNLI as direct debit and in a will.


EDIT:

I do buy equipment from time to time for some local boxing/martial arts clubs but never hand cash over.
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  • #8,959
  • Sep 8, 2017 4:35am Sep 8, 2017 4:35am
https://youtu.be/OmOe27SJ3Yc

We still had Kerouac!
  • #8,960
  • Sep 8, 2017 4:38am Sep 8, 2017 4:38am
Quoting NoStopsXXL
Just a quick question: you may or may not give money to charity and this is not a judgemental question or aimed at ethics or morals; but out of interest which charities do you consider are more deserving and requiring more help? (domestic UK and or internationl) Thanks
Salvation Army, definitely. They do local and international work.

Avoid big brands, like Care, or Amnesty.
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