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  • #1
  • First Post: Aug 12, 2017 5:51pm Aug 12, 2017 5:51pm
Anybody trade with 10+ lots? Do you see a difference between slippage, limit fills, liquidity? Do you prefer a particular retail broker for the high account size?
  • #2
  • Aug 14, 2017 11:27pm Aug 14, 2017 11:27pm
My height trading lots size is 6$, usually I use (1-2)$ lots size! I seem, slippage, liquidity this types of issues relies on brokers quality!
  • #3
  • Aug 15, 2017 2:09am Aug 15, 2017 2:09am
Quoting cyguy
Anybody trade with 10+ lots? Do you see a difference between slippage, limit fills, liquidity? Do you prefer a particular retail broker for the high account size?
A lot of retail brokers offer VIP accounts for large deposits. Here you will get a more individual treatment and partly better or preferred liquidity. By trading 10+ lots you will most likely fulfill the monetary criterias for getting access to these kind of account types.
  • #4
  • Aug 15, 2017 2:45pm Aug 15, 2017 2:45pm
Maybe if I was millionaire trader...
  • #5
  • Aug 15, 2017 2:50pm Aug 15, 2017 2:50pm
Quoting cyguy
Anybody trade with 10+ lots? Do you see a difference between slippage, limit fills, liquidity? Do you prefer a particular retail broker for the high account size?
depends on time of day, currency, trading point. slippage in stop orders is higher, in limits its less then before, but not extrem, but you get very often only partially fills or no fills.

10 lots are not such a problem, most problems start with 50, 100, 200 lots......, but like i told before: depends on time of day, currency, trading point.
as example: eurusd is most of the time without 1 hour around rollover good to trade with 50 lot with out bigger problems, ofcourse spread is higher then with 10 lot or 1 lot, but not extrem.
  • #6
  • Aug 15, 2017 2:59pm Aug 15, 2017 2:59pm
Quoting cyguy
Anybody trade with 10+ lots? Do you see a difference between slippage, limit fills, liquidity? Do you prefer a particular retail broker for the high account size?
I trade big size with Interactive broker
here is a pic of IB dome it shows the spread usually 1pip or even less

on big sizes i get partial fills but then it fills quickly. sometimes i get charged execution commissions again.
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Frank Fadi
  • #7
  • Aug 15, 2017 3:01pm Aug 15, 2017 3:01pm
this shows u the different in prices between IB and MT4

you will notice that demo mt4 is always behind 1-10 seconds
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Frank Fadi
  • #8
  • Aug 15, 2017 9:49pm Aug 15, 2017 9:49pm
That is a really big one to trade. I have never dream to be bigger lot trader...
  • #9
  • Aug 16, 2017 2:53am Aug 16, 2017 2:53am
ok
lets do it in math

if your account is 1:500 leverage

that is meaning

10 lots : 5000 lots in the market

this will cause a shock once you enter the sell or the buy order - once it is filled, the SHARKS begin to follow your trade to hunt your stop loss, if they can not, then they will try to hunt your margin call, if they could not, they will try to fill very small portions against you... in the broker virtual space of course...

what so ever is your account leverage, this rule is true

ok let's do it in this way

if you do not believe me try this experiment on your trading account

try to choose a peaceful time where there is not any news or action in the market

open on your real account randomly 0.01 lot trade, at the same time your order is filled, the market will move against you ( mt 4 will show this ) , your broker server will begin to work against you from the first shot.
GUYS BE AWARE FROM HUNTING YOUR STOP LOSSES BY YOUR BROKER & BY "GHOSTS"
  • #10
  • Aug 16, 2017 4:37am Aug 16, 2017 4:37am
Quoting Samer1970
ok lets do it in math if your account is 1:500 leverage that is meaning 10 lots : 5000 lots in the market this will cause a shock once you enter the sell or the buy order - once it is filled, the SHARKS begin to follow your trade to hunt your stop loss, if they can not, then they will try to hunt your margin call, if they could not, they will try to fill very small portions against you... in the broker virtual space of course... what so ever is your account leverage, this rule is true ok let's do it in this way if you do not believe me try this...
what are you talking about? if you think your broker is working against you on a .01 lot you are sadly mistaken. it is quite easy to trade 10 lots. most guys i know spread orders across a few brokers though not just lump 10 lots on 1 broker but 2 maybe 3. draws less attention and better for the risk as not all your cookies are in 1 jar..

wendigo
  • #11
  • Aug 16, 2017 5:09am Aug 16, 2017 5:09am
The highest I have used is $90 per lot size, but that was during news. If you talk about normal situations then I prefer using somewhere between $1 or $2 per lot. However, it’s all down to our size of investment and also skill levels. If we go blindly using high lot then we are just inviting trouble and will not move anywhere with such approach! So, it must be done all every wisely or else it can cause huge problem.
  • #12
  • Aug 16, 2017 6:12am Aug 16, 2017 6:12am
Quoting Samer1970
ok lets do it in math if your account is 1:500 leverage that is meaning 10 lots : 5000 lots in the market this will cause a shock once you enter the sell or the buy order - once it is filled, the SHARKS begin to follow your trade to hunt your stop loss, if they can not, then they will try to hunt your margin call, if they could not, they will try to fill very small portions against you... in the broker virtual space of course... what so ever is your account leverage, this rule is true ok let's do it in this way if you do not believe me try this...
whats your calculation?

its crazy argumentation. there are sharks watching us? you are a member of some church or?
who did teach you this crazy staff?

in otc forex market noone watching you, maybe your broker. who did teach you this shark mistake?
but what you write here " if your account is 1:500 leverage that is meaning 10 lots : 5000 lots in the market". if you buy 10 lot you buy 10 lot, noone is interested in leverage.
  • #13
  • Aug 16, 2017 6:15am Aug 16, 2017 6:15am
Quoting wendigo
{quote} what are you talking about? if you think your broker is working against you on a .01 lot you are sadly mistaken. it is quite easy to trade 10 lots. most guys i know spread orders across a few brokers though not just lump 10 lots on 1 broker but 2 maybe 3. draws less attention and better for the risk as not all your cookies are in 1 jar.. wendigo
this will not help really. if you have a good broker you already have this liquity providers all in your account, so each of your accounts simple trades against your other account to get the volume. it can only work with market makers, but if you make good wins they will not do this business with you any longer or send you in a book, and you will again trade against your own accounts with other broker for same volume.

risk would be same or increase (because more difficult so secure money in each broker seperate), the costs are higher often (because you cant aggregate your trade volume to reduce commissions).
  • #14
  • Aug 16, 2017 10:32am Aug 16, 2017 10:32am
This guy trade 100 ~ 200 plus lots. He made $4 millions within two weeks.
It is one example of the best counting sentiment flow trader.
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Gcha...x-inst/2205497
  • #15
  • Aug 16, 2017 10:43am Aug 16, 2017 10:43am
Quoting Jack168
This guy trade 100 ~ 200 plus lots. He made $4 millions within two weeks. It is one example of the best counting sentiment flow trader. http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Gcha...x-inst/2205497
I am literally not impressed that easily, but ...

DAFUQ!?!?!?

His (outstanding) returns based on this extremely short timeframe indicate an horrible risk, no matter if he got lucky until now. Taking all this on a 5 million account you definetely need balls..
  • #16
  • Aug 16, 2017 10:58am Aug 16, 2017 10:58am
Quoting Jack168
This guy trade 100 ~ 200 plus lots. He made $4 millions within two weeks. It is one example of the best counting sentiment flow trader. http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Gcha...x-inst/2205497
Fake
"Men Who Can Both Be Right & Sit Tight Are Uncommon" ~ Jesse Livermore
  • #17
  • Aug 16, 2017 11:05am Aug 16, 2017 11:05am
the only lot i can afford right now is 0.01
Sign Off --->
  • #18
  • Aug 16, 2017 11:08am Aug 16, 2017 11:08am
Quoting cyguy
Anybody trade with 10+ lots? Do you see a difference between slippage, limit fills, liquidity? Do you prefer a particular retail broker for the high account size?
how bout +30 lots...

i've always been with oanda. never had issues. they respect my stops even at this size..

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  • #19
  • Aug 16, 2017 11:10am Aug 16, 2017 11:10am
Quoting hilmy83
{quote} how bout +30 lots... i've always been with oanda. never had issues. they respect my stops even at this size.. {image}
gotta show you the losses too.

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  • #20
  • Aug 16, 2017 11:11am Aug 16, 2017 11:11am
Quoting Jack168
This guy trade 100 ~ 200 plus lots. He made $4 millions within two weeks. It is one example of the best counting sentiment flow trader. http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Gcha...x-inst/2205497
this is simple fake.
no trader with high volume or high invest would use this broker!

its so easy to see such fakes.
fakes are often done by brokers or affiliate partners. broker can change any numbers later in trades or whatever he want, is simple his money, when many invest in this broker or in this product to follow (only this broker is then allowed for following), they do one bad trade and get all this money (because they have opposite site of trade as marketmaker).
so often doine and still people fall in this bullshit.
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